"There is a monumental weakness in the organization" - Buoniconti

When I read the quote, it states the obvious: there are consequences to consistently bad decisions or outcomes, and (implied) the main consequences are losing and a loss of face. It's not about whether the quote makes sense. It's about whether it's factually correct; and if it is, what to do about it.

Obviously, not every decision the front office has made has been a bad one, and a lot of free agents have chosen to come to Miami. What Buoniconti is really saying is that the front office is bad at selling the franchise to free agents, and that a more affable guy such as Nat Moore should be the point guy in motivating the free agent to want to close the deal, not Ireland.

Now, I haven't been in the room with Ireland when he talks to a free agent, and I'm assuming that neither has Buoniconti. But I find it easier to give weight to his opinions than I do to my own or those of most on any board. Buoniconti knows football.

 

You do realize you just gave FinD a massive chub, right?

 

The only thing ridiculous here is thinking that Ireland had nothing to do with this. The imbecile was just along for the ride. funny stuff really. But obviously wrong. Don't really need to look no further than drafting an interior lineman of all things with a top 15 pick. Pretty unheard of since it's such laughable value, but Ireland did it because that's his M.O. Safe. Mediocre. Just like the Long pick. Safe. Mediocre. And the Odrick pick. Safe. Mediocre. Build up the trenches. Ireland wants nothing more than to continue Parcell's outdated philosophy.

 

Are you saying that Ireland is building the Maginot Line in the Blitzkrieg era?

 

Crazy isn't it? First the media is nuts. Then players. Then Dolphin legends. All in the defense of Ireland. Remember when Sparano was trashed and the players defended him? Just curious, have any Dolphin players defended Ireland?

^ Marc Colombo over Bryant McKinnie. Nuff said.

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Brilliant historical analogy that few will get. Hats off to you sir!

 

I don't hate him, but I don't care for him and would not be upset if he was gone.

 

No. Not quite. "MOST" of them could move a little bit.. except the right side. They looked more like Eben Emeal. The real trouble is that no one like DeGaulle and Liddell-Hart were running the offense.

 

Some would argue rebuilding is best done through the draft. I think they build their offense, in Philbin's image, then.

 

Yeah, you know who's bold in FA every year? Washington.

 

Have you never had a boss?

 

Brilliant post.

 

If the first clause is true, the second clause cannot exist because there would be no organization to pay the consequences. If the second clause is feasible - consequences being paid for it - then the first clause was not and cannot be true. This is a hyperbolic statement which should have been expressed somewhat more..... logically. The organization has not lost and does not "lose out on every single etc., etc., etc." because it exists. The statement should be that that the organization has not "won" the particular coach(es), manager(s), or player(s) that this individual, as well as about 2/3 of the posters on this forum think are the most important part of the puzzle - which renders Buonoconti's statement about as meaningful as most of the others. Like I said, it is not logically expressed or sustainable.

 

No I didn't. I wasn't looking. Were you?

 

Long is mediocre?

 

logic?

 

Finfangirl in 3.....2......1.......

 

Being a great player in no way means your opinion about anything related to front office issues is relevant.

 

IMHO, saying that we "lose out on every single individual, whether management or player or coach," is an exaggeration. A company doesn't hire EVERY applicant. Are they "losing out", or did they find the best people they could, who wanted to be there, and were willing to work for a fair wage? I don't see many of the people we interviewed as "losses", and I honestly think that there are people taking advantage of the fans' unhappiness with the last decade+ of Miami history.

How much stock can we put in the words of players about the man who has basically told weren't worth as much as they believe they are? As for Nick Buoniconti, who's to say that he doesn't have his own agenda with his remarks? He's a 71 yr old former Patriot AND lawyer as much as he's a former Dolphin...

 

Vets were dubious last yr as well, that was laughed at, meanwhile what...0-7 start to the yr?

Not saying he's completely correct, but it is not a bad idea to listen to the experienced, not the learned.

 

It is done by the draft. And it's done best by getting a great draft pick to get your QB. We were there once and wrongly picked a Left Tackle if you remember...

 

You're combining two completely unrelated topics.

 

Haters everywhere these days... Ross has only owned the majority of the team for THREE years, every horrific event before that is directly on H Wayne Huizienga! Ireland has only had ONE off-season before this one without Parcells over his shoulder... The staff rotation, depleted roster, and loss of respect abroad started long before Ross OR Ireland were even involved with this team! Bear in mind that NEITHER of them can be blamed in ANY way for the 1-15 season, or the events which led to it...

I don't KNOW the plan, like Nick B, I don't have any contacts within the current team, and am in the dark as to where they're heading. That said, I will trust in Coach Philbin, Mike Sherman, Kevin Coyle, and the rest of the team far beyond the words of players we spurned, or 71 yr old men to field a cohesive (AND winning) TEAM this season!

 

No, but the results of having the best Left Tackle in the league are mediocre. Wonder why that is? Oh that's right, because Left Tackles don't win games. And the most important thing, Left Tackles can be had without spending a 1st overall pick that should of been used on Matt Ryan. Take the last few Superbowl teams for instance.

Giants - Will Beatty - 60th overall pick, David Diehl, 160th pick
Patriots - Matt Light - 48th pick, Nick Kaczur - 100th pick
Packers - Chad Clifton - 44th pick
Steelers - Jonathan Scott - 141st pick, Max Starks - 75th pick, Marvel Smith - 38th pick
Saints - Jermon Bushrod - 125th pick
Colts - Charlie Johnson - 199th pick, Tony Ugoh - 42nd pick
Cardinals - Mike Gandy - 68th pick
Bears - John Tait - 14th pick
Seahawks - Walter Jones - 6th pick

Last 7 Superbowls, only one other top 10 pick, only 2 first rounders. If a team is picking 1st overall, they should know better than to take a LT over QB. Hopefully we get it right with our top 5 pick after this season.

 

Still waiting for one of the pro Ireland folks to explain to me why seemingly no Dolphin player has come to Jeff Ireland's defense during this media firestorm. Remember the support Sparano received? Why not Ireland? Surely if it's only the jaded players that have been fired that don't like the guy, at least one Dolphin player would have spoken out by now to support him. Right? No?

 

Ross is a dope, just like Huizenga. Both want what's best for the team, but neither has any sense whatsoever about the sport.

 

We havent lost out on any impact players, right. Well, we havent brought in any either, but we've lost 3 off our roster.

So that leaves a 6-10 football team WORSE. Excuse me if I'm not kissing the ground Ireland walks on.

 

Actually it would be more accurate to say that Nick Buoniconti KNEW football, or at least he knew how to play on the O Line in the 70's, which is in NO way comparable to being a GM in 2012!

 

I like how we decided, since sparano is gone, he was to blame for the last 3 years and not utilizing the tools Ireland gave him. Curious to see what excuses we'll have for Jeffy if master chef Philbin's bunch struggles this year.

 

I'm not a fan of owners, but of the team! In my mind a GOOD owner is one who finds a good football guy to run the team, and signs the checks. 6-10 sucks, but it IS decidedly better than 1-15! Ross has only been the main owner for three years now, and in the middle of the 2nd season, his "football guy" that came along with the team WALKED mid-season! I'm NOT Steve Ross, but if I were, I'd be looking for somebody to fill the job of running the team. A guy like Shula or maybe even Polian, to help eliminate the PR gaffs...

 

Btw, to irelands advocates.... Is this a "make or break" season, or does he get another year regardless?

 

nooooo.

This last year is the only year he really had...so he gets a full 5 years to "build" this team.

so I say give him another 3 years at least.

By then, we would all not be football fans anymore, so who would care?

I hate this team.

 

Section, I've agreed with just about everything you've had to say about Ireland. But not the last sentence. Hate the man building it, but not the team. I have a feeling most of the players share our thoughts on Jeff Ireland. Not fair to lump them in with his incompetence.

 

When said fan uses blue bold italics on a message board.

 

This is only his 2nd off-season without Parcells, but his contract DOES run out this year, so if we don't at least break .500 I believe that he's gone...

 

lol

 

6-10 is not better than 1-15. They both equal the same thing. No playoffs. One gives you a much, much better draft pick however, and that's the only thing that matters. Again, no playoffs is no playoffs.