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The Finhead Letter:

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ToddsPhins, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    No, it is possible to be dubious about Ireland, and hopeful and interested in the facts of the matter.

    Far better than the "I want a franchise Qb!!" boys.
     
  2. jw3102

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    I am sure that Matt Millen had his supporters in Detroit too. This didn't mean he was a qualified GM. Ireland needs to go and all the empty seats in the stadium are there because fans no longer support the direction of this team under the leadership of Ireland.
     
  3. slickj101

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    I blame Jeff Ireland for gas being $5 a gallon.


    Just curious though, when was the last time the stadium was packed?
     
  4. jw3102

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    In the early 1970's season tickets accounted for over 65,000 fans a game. After this era when the Dolphins were the dominant teams in the NFL, season ticket sales ranged between 53,000 and 65,000 for the next 30 plus years. Season tickets sales started going below 53,000 in 2006 and have dramatically decreased in the last three years. While the Dolphins will not give figures related to season ticket sales for the 2012. It has been reported in the Miami Herald that the number of tickets sold to season ticket holders for the 2012 season stands at around 30,000 right now.

    For those who don't attend games at the stadium or live in other areas of the country, season ticket sales may not seem important. For Ross though, he overpaid for the team and stadium when he purchased it from Huizenga and the reduced tickets sales is making it very difficult for him to earn a profit owning the team. He has tried to attract new fans to the stadium by bringing in high profile celebrities as part owners of the team. He has added a place for fans to go dance during the game and he has tried other gimmicks to increase season ticket sales.

    Unfortunately he hasn't done the one thing which will actually put fans in those seats, which is to put a winning product on the field. Fans could care less about all those other gimmicks, all they care about is the football team winning games. Until Ross is able to do what is necessary to bring a winning team back to Miami, season ticket sales will continue to decline.
     
  5. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    I think you're over-valuing ticket sales when it comes to a franchise generating revenue.

    My point was more that even when we were winning and making the playoffs, the stadium still wasn't packed.
     
  6. CANEPHINS

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    Which also isn't true because it came out that Ross met with Manning at Duke.
     
  7. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    just like every fire-Ireland article written so far. that's why we keep going in this stupid, dumbass, illogical circle. assumptions on both sides. (except my side which is all fact :up:)
     
  8. ToddsPhins

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    That's not a fact. That's a CONJECTURE. And you just confirmed it as such by saying Dez never spoke up about it as being false. :wink2:
    Actually, with how vocal Dez is, it's more likely that Ireland was being forthright about what transpired b/c Dez didn't call him out on it, and a quiet Dez likely means an agreeing Dez. If it went down how you're inventing, the logic would say the following is the result: "If older white guy in power randomly & insultingly insinuates that young, passionate, excitable black male's mother is a whore and then tries to defend himself and lie about it, then young, passionate, excitable, vocal black male will call his butt out for it b/c that would be consistent with Dez's character." But that didn't happen.

    Logic. You're reaching for it. Not there yet though. Probably won't happen either by trying to twist stuff to support a slanted belief.


    This would be a fact: GM likes to be diligent when sifting through potential 1st round candidates. Why? Obviously b/c a lot is riding on it, including their employment.
    How do we know Ireland is diligent? Jimmy Wilson. That's how. The time Ireland invested making sure Wilson was the right pick AS A 7TH ROUNDER is a clear sign of diligence. It's obvious Ireland cares about who he drafts, and he obviously doesn't have a problem with people with troubled and/or sensitive histories or else he wouldn't have drafted Wilson, nor would he likely have been interviewing Dez. Some might call him abrasive and rude; maybe others might call him direct, thorough, and diligent.

    *** So how does diligence come into play with Dez Bryant? Easy. Players with a troubled past "might" be a risk to use a valuable 1st round pick on.

    -Did this prove true regarding how the NFL perceived him? Yes. Dez didn't fall to the late 1st round b/c he lacked talent, was an injury risk, or b/c of a limited demand for WR.
    -Was there reason for Ireland to be "diligent" in his questioning? Yes, especially after Dez's Oklahoma issues.
    -Was Ireland out of line to ask what Dez's father does for a living? No.
    -Was Ireland out of line to ask what Dez's mom does for a living? No.
    -Did Dez directly answer the question? No.
    -Could the answer Dez provided be of baiting nature since it's a sensitive subject and b/c Dez likely knows that most Americans would add 1+1 together and think a woman who works for a pimp is a prostitute? It's possible.
    -Did Dez's answer seem like it might be dodging the question? Yes. Why? b/c he didn't directly answer it.
    -Can it be more comfortable for a person to say "she works for my dad" rather than "mom's a prostitute"? Yes.
    -So if Dez's mom wasn't a prostitute and she did in fact have a job, then why didn't Dez simply say what her job was rather than "She works for my dad"? Again, is Dez baiting Ireland to create controversy? It's possible.
    -Do pimps usually employ female bodyguards? I can't imagine so.
    -Do pimps legally set up a business, pay taxes on it, hire W2'd employees, and pay an accountant to handle their books? Not likely.
    -Do pimps employ a female translator to yell "Where's my money, whore" at the Russian girl they smuggled in and promised freedom to? Doubtful.
    -So then when Dez says his mother works for his father (a pimp), it's then you're job as a part of proper diligence to find out whether or not that means the most likely option -- "prostitute".... b/c if she was one, it means a lot more digging needs to be done.
    -Did Ireland pose the question in the most tactful manner? No.
    -Was Ireland likely caught off guard by Dez's answer prior to asking the poorly stated question? Possibly.
    -Is there video of the interview to show Ireland's true expressions when hearing "She works for my dad"? No.
    -Is there video to show Ireland's facial expressions, body language, and voice tone & pitch to know exactly how his words were intended? No.
    -Do spoken words themselves comprise the smallest portion of communication? Yes. Only 7% of communication is spoken words. 93% is body language and paralinguistic cues.
    -So then can anyone say his statement wasn't asked out of confusion and in question form rather than an insulting jab? No, no fact can support this.
    -Again, was it necessary to find out if Dez's mom was a prostitute after Dez seemed to allude to such? yes, it was.
    -If Dez said his mom worked for his attorney dad, would it be out of line to ask "So your mom's a paralegal?" No.
    -Is Ireland the one who made his dad a pimp? No.



    Case closed. This court finds Jeff Ireland innocent on the charges of intentionally insulting Dez or outright calling his mom a whore b/c no factual evidence has been presented to support it.
     
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  9. siciliansith

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    I kinda wonder about overpaid part. Any business is a risk. Just because ya spend a billion dollars on a team doesn't make you immune from the market. Only people that don't have a billion dollars have this view jmo. he'll make his money just not the way a a person think a billion dollars is rewarded.
     
  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    It is a risk, however I do not believe he overpaid. All NFL teams are more valuable than their actual value.

    No business man would buy a regular business with the profit margins of a NFL team for the amount a NFL team actually costs.

    Sports teams are overpaid because they are luxury items. They have emotional value. Ross never was a national figure when he was in real estate. Now that he is owner of the Dolphins people actually care who he is. Plus he gets to be one of the 32 people who own a football team, while actually making money while doing it. It is like owning a painting that generates money.
     
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  11. ToddsPhins

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    And I'm sure there were chicken little fans in San Fran believing the team was doomed to repeat its 6-10 record b/c they didn't get their franchise QB and were starting off with a 1st year NFL head coach.

    Ahhhh, there it is---- Ireland needs to go b/c "some" fans don't like him, many of those who will criticize every move he makes hoping he's fired before he has a chance to prove them wrong. You're basically saying "Ireland should be fired b/c some fans want him gone".... but what about the fans who either DONT want him gone or HAVEN'T formed an opinion yet?" That's quite arrogant & egocentric of you. Why are you treating your opinion as if it's the "voice of the fans" when it's not been factually proven as the consensus opinion?


    I bet the Packers are happy their stock owning fans don't make the decisions. :lol:


    If we listened to those "non seat filling angry fans" you speak of, we'd have most of our cap space tied up in 2 worthless QBs, Kolb & Orton, and would've traded up our 2012 1st rounder (which proved to be a top 10 pick) to move up for Ponder, Gabbert, or Locker which would've been a terrible mistake.

    The only option for a decent QB was the red head, and fans so conveniently ignore the fact that we had no 2nd rounder to trade up, so Dalton would've cost us our #8 2012 pick, our 3rd round 2011, and likely our 2nd round #42 2012 pick. There's likely not a team in the NFL that would do that trade right now even in hindsight.

    So, who proved to be the best available QB for 2011? MATT MOORE, Ireland's guy. IRELAND WAS RIGHT, ANGRY FANS WERE WRONG, yet it's once again the fans who think they ****ing know it all and are criticizing Ireland's QB decisions even though his record should buy him some slack while their record should tell them to STFU.

    SO PLEASE, BE THE FIRST ANGRY, SEEMINGLY IRRATIONAL FAN TO LIST ACTUAL ACTS OF WHAT HE DID WRONG. NO CONJECTURE. JUST FACTS
     
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  12. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    When the Dolphins went from the 25th ranked scoring defense in the league in 2009 to percentage points outside the top 10 in 2010 and then to 6th in 2011 it became clear to me that the personnel on the field was not the problem, coaching was. When the special teams unit went from 29th in 2010 to 6th in 2011 in became clearer to me that the personnel on the field was not the problem, coaching was. The GM does not pick the coaches. Blaming him for the ineptness only because he came in with the failed Parcells simply makes no sense to me.
     
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  13. texanphinatic

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    This is not directly aimed at TP above, but IMO the "Kool-Aid drinkers" are every bit as patronizing and elitist as the "chicken littles" out there. Seriously, this stuff is getting as bad a Pub v. Dem debate at times. Neither of y'all have the upper hand. Neither of you are a better group as a whole, and neither of you have better opinions.

    I understand why both groups can kind of devolve from good debates into more of a finger pointing atmosphere, but to be frank, if you think you have the moral superiority here you are most likely dead wrong.
     
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  14. Da 'Fins

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    As I intimated in another thread ...

    * If you are happy with 7-9, 7-9, 6-10 seasons - then be happy.

    * Or if you want to argue that Matt Moore is a SB winning QB? Great.

    * Or if you think that RT has been shored up (like the selection of Marco Colombo last year) with no one there (Will Barker? Who needs Eric Winston, a Miami product, when you have him!)? Fantastic!

    * And I suppose you think that ripped John Jerry is ready to be monster at OG (since he got beat out by a fat, lazy Vernon Carey last year)? Gluttony of Joy

    * Or perhaps you think we have a #1 WR in Davone Bess or Brian Hartline? Have fun with that!

    * And I guess you see Fasano as a Pro Bowl Calibre TE in the WCO? Joy overflowing!
    (while Ireland passed on two TE's named Gronkowski & Hernandez in favor of guys named Misi & Jerry ... wonder if Misi will even start in his 3rd season?)

    * No Doubt you think Jamaal Westerman is ready for all-pro status this year? Start counting those sacks now!

    * Really, though, who needs sacks when you have Sean Smith at CB? Or, rather, "The best CB tandem in football"? Right? TD Picks here we come!

    Yes, there re no arguments to be had about Ireland. This team is ready - all positions on deck!

    Really, after all that above (and all the great moves this off-season), we are only one 1st round draft pick away from getting to the SB!! And, after 4 years as GM!

    Question is, which of those positions are we going to use it on? Hmmm....
     
  15. Da 'Fins

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    Personally, I just think Ireland is bad for Miami at this point; real or perceived, he's viewed by many players (except those in need of the money) as poison; and that his record is highly middling. Now, I also blame Ross and think it's possible he's being cheap and has no money to spend (in which case he should not have bought the team. Don't own a franchise if you are not going to go sell out to get a winning team on the field). But, Ireland's record as a GM is pretty middle of the road given all the weaknesses on the team right now (as noted in the above post) - including QB.
     
  16. Larryfinfan

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    Don't know about everyone, but what bothers me about ireland and ross is this"

    a) Ross mandated that we 'find a franchise QB'. Mission failed. I hardly look at Garrard as a franchise guy and MMoore, while showed some moxy, has never fooled anyone that he is a franchise guy. They whiffed on Manning the only real franchise guy in FA, and simply don't have the ammo to trade up for Luck or RG3 without doing serious damage to the future of the organization. Flynn chose Seattle over the comfort of his old coach. Smith probably never wanted to make any visits, preferring to stay in SF, but he also chose to stay there after visiting us. Was this Ireland's fault ?? Well, there were reports that he low balled Flynn who was incensed enough to go back to Seattle.

    b) The big thing he did was trading away Marshall. Now, I happen to like the fact that he moved on from Marshall as he was a locker room cancer and his play here has not matched his hype, but in trying to woo a qb here, trading away our best option in the passing game wasn't a way to make it happen. Had he traded marshall and landed any one of several FAs to take his place, that might have been different. But it didn't appear that he made any attempt at fixing the hole he created with the Marshall trade. While the sky isn't falling and Philbin will mold this team into what he envisions it should be, losing one more viable offensive weapon just doesn't help out.

    c) Another area we had to shore up was the secondary and he appeared to have made a move that helps out with Richard Marshall, however, he follows that up with releasing Bell. Now, I am also of the opinion that Bell's time had come, but by making these two moves, we are still behind in filling our need areas.

    The Bryant issue to me is a non-issue, over and done with.

    So, what has he done this offseason to improve this team...at this point...NOTHING. That's the beef with Ireland, not whether other players like him or whether he talks well to the camera's or is personable. He hasn't made any improvements on this team yet...
     
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  17. ToddsPhins

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    1. You have every right to complain about this.... when the season is happening, you know--- the time when you judge what your RT actually looks like. :lol:
    2. We previously had Carey at RT. I guess it's Ireland's fault Carey became a slob who needed to move inside creating a potential late need at RT. Damn you Ireland!! Why did you make Carey eat that extra plate of cheesy burgers?!!
    3. Philbin is our new HC, and he happens to be good with linemen. If we passed on those guys you mentioned, it's possible that PHILBIN expressed a liking for someone currently rostered (since he did in fact mention he felt there were a few hidden gems). Your assumption that it's b/c of Ireland is purely CONJECTURE. You have NO PROOF on why Winston isn't a Dolphin.

    It's obvious that you think a player in his 2nd year is supposed to be a finished product. {sigh} I'm glad you're ignoring Jerry's late season progress that gives Philbin something to maybe look forward to. :wink2:


    Good one.... especially after Ireland expressed how Westerman was acquired to be an All Pro. Never mind, that didn't happen. Hey, it's not like teams need depth at the position, right. :unsure:

    Another zinger. :unsure: It's terrible that Ireland finds one of the league's best pass rushers in the CFL. Remind me what contributions Parcells made to it? Joey Porter? Pat White over Connor Barwin? With 3 years of running the organization, who did Parcells bring in compared to Ireland's Cam Wake? Hey, but how can you not blame Ireland for not addressing all these needs in one offseason, one that was already limited in draft picks? <sarcasm>

    WR
    Oh yeah, I'll have fun with it. Enjoy your backfire.
    Why do we have only Bess & Hartline? Let's run through this though shall we.
    1. Who did Parcells draft in the 3rd round of 2009? Patrick Turner was it? How did that turn out?
    Ahh, but you're mad at Ireland for bringing in a solid undrafted FA slot receiver. Gotchya.

    2. How many WRs did Parcells draft from 2008-2010 outside of his failed Turner? ONE!!!!!!!!!! Did we ever prioritize the position with anything higher than that lone 3rd rounder? NO!! but you want to blame Ireland for our current WR problems when Parcels didn't fuggin draft any. We have 1 drafted WR on our roster from Parcells' drafting days. ONE!!! Teams build through the draft, or are you not aware of that.

    3. Ted Ginn. I suppose he was Ireland's fault, right. :glare:

    4. Why was Marshall acquired in the first place?
    We spent 2 2nd rounders on him b/c neither Parcells nor the previous regime could draft an impact WR in Miami to save his life. Parcells didn't even seem to prioritize it, and considering his preference at OC (Henning), I can see why.

    TE
    1. Fasano? I'm pissed too that PARCELLS didn't value the position enough to EVER use a decent pick on one after losing David Martin.
    2. Gronkowski? With Parcells running the draft (especially the top of it), do you KNOW that Ireland wouldn't have taken Gronk?
    3. No depth at TE for 2 years. Why? We used 1 draft pick on TE in 3 years, a 5TH ROUNDER on a small school guy Parcells liked.... and b/c Parcells would rather have a Joey Haynos than an Aaron Hernandez.

    QB
    1. Funny you complain about the player who proved THE BEST QB OPTION for us last year (Matt Moore) whom Ireland brought in. Tell me who was a better option and why.... and make it make sense. It won't happen, but if it does I'll give you a cookie. Kolb? hahaha. Orton? Bigger hahaha. I'll let you finish the rest, and then I'll finish the hahaha's.
    2. Pat White. Parcells guy. Bill uses a pick on Misi over Gronkowski b/c he previously wasted a pick on White when Barwin was staring us in the face.

    Win-Loss record
    1. No I'm not happy with 7-9, 7-9, 6-10.... but we fired the HEAD COACH and replaced him with someone promising, so that does make me happy.
    2. Every coaching position (at least the important ones) was fired. If you think that has no bearing on wins & losses, then I don't know what to tell you.
    3. The guys above were Parcells' guys, not Irelands.
    4. Is it Ireland's fault the team showed up out of shape and had to implement a new offense in a shorted offseason (thanks to the terrible previos OC being fired)?
    5. The TEAM that IRELAND fielded finished the season 6-3 (2-1 vs the division with a near win vs NE) with the new QB, OC, and RB Ireland brought in.
    6. The team at the beginning of the year was the same team. Too bad they weren't coached well enough to prevent such detrimental sloppy play and avoid 4th quarter losses despite LOOKING LIKE THE BETTER & MORE TALENTED TEAM for most of the game up until that point.
    7. Excessive 4th quarter losses over multiple seasons are more on the coach than the person fielding the team.

    Hmph. Parcells assumed full control of operations including the draft as he usually does, appointed all the failed coaches, made numerous terrible free agency decisions that left us subsequently hurting at those positions (safety, guard, center, off the top of my head), and subsequently ditched the organization (b/c of the failure he likely knew he had created so that he wouldn't be around when it all finally blew up), so what does complaining about how Parcells left us have to do with Ireland?

    And the one thing you're forgetting is---- from 2008-2010, Ireland's criteria for player assessment was based on what Parcells wanted, not his own.
    2011 marked the first time Ireland could do it HIS way based on the kind of guy IRELAND wanted to bring in. This was obvious b/c they type of players and coaches brought in (or drafted) were dissimilar to Parcells's 3 years in charge. Therefore you have no real history of evidence or facts to support all your conjecture.
     
  18. ToddsPhins

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    LOL @ that. And not in the way where you're being funny and I'm agreeing.

    Let's see here,
    A billionaire who spends a billion dollars on a franchise, is passionate about his team, has a history of happily opening up his checkbook for big name players (Dansby & Marshall), tried to make Harbaugh the richest HC in the NFL, and wanted to spend a hundred million on Manning, is now considered cheap and without money to spend? :lol: This just keeps getting richer and richer, no pun intended.


    Anything more and you're asking for Dan Snyder and his barrel full of desperate, expensive blunders. Thankfully, we have a GM with the ability to practice some restraint so that a rookie owner doesn't make a Snyder.

    Dan Snyder desperately paying millions for a worthless McNabb = Ross spending millions to bring in Kolb or Orton at the fan's request.

    Snyder's just lucky out of shear happenstance that all those terrible decisions left him with a bad enough team to finish drafting high enough to where he could make another desperate, costly move that might actually pay off for once.
     
  19. jw3102

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    Believe what you want to. The fact is that the overall level of talent on this team is very mediocre and that is the reason the Dolphins have been 20-28 over the last three years. The fact that the improvement in the defense and special teams didn't improve the record of the Dolphins shows that these players selected by Ireland don't know how to win games, even if they play well for parts of every game.

    You mention that the Dolphins had a top ten defense in 2011 and a top ten special teams unit. Yet they had their worst record in the last four years against one of the easiest schedules in the league. It seems to me that the coaches were doing their jobs but the talent on the team wasn't good enough to win the majority of their games. They also only played three teams last year which ended the season with winning records, Texans, Giants, and Patriots, (whom they played twice). They lost all four of the games they played against these teams.

    If you like mediocre talent that can win games against the other bad to mediocre teams in the NFL, as well as lose to these same type of teams. You should LOVE the Dolphins. If you want a team which can actually win games against the better teams in the NFL, look elsewhere because the Dolphins just don't have the talent to beat these teams. Ireland is responsible for providing talent and he has basically provided the team with overall mediocre talent since he arrived four years ago.

    He certainly has made some very good picks and some good free agency signings, but overall the talent on the team really isn't that good and that is why the record is as bad as it has been over this four year period. Coaching certainly has been PART of the problem over this period but Ireland has been the major problem, IMO.
     
  20. cdz12250

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    Reversed on appeal, counsel. If a player's father is a pimp (one of the lowest forms of human existence), and his mother works for his father (thereby aiding and abetting him in profiting from prostitution), one has all the information one needs in order to determine whether the player has a "troubled past," which you yourself framed as the issue. It is not necessary to inquire in what specific capacity the mother worked for the father.
     
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    So Ireland gets the credit for dansby jake long etc but some of the busts from a few years ago and parcells gets the blame. I see what they did right there.
     
  22. Da 'Fins

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    You're arguments are missing the point.

    Let's take a look at just one of your points (and the rest of your logic follows the same path): "it's Ireland's fault Carey became a slob who needed to move inside creating a potential late need at RT. Damn you Ireland!! Why did you make Carey eat that extra plate of cheesy burgers?!!"

    A) No one said it was Ireland's fault Carey has been a fat lazy slob most of his career. But, we've known this for several years.
    B) It is Ireland's fault for not finding a replacement in the 4 years that he's been here.
    C) Ireland was head of personnel and chose Colombo to be the RT. That, at the moment he was signed was viewed as a mistake if he was expected to start - by numerous people on here and in the media - and then Miami did nothing to really go after a starter there. There were several other OT's that were of genuine starting calibre (Or even OG's, leaving Carey at RT - who while a bad choice was better than Colombo). Colombo was worthless. A complete Fraud.

    So, you're point is a complete non-sequitur. You are so blinded by your support of Ireland you can't see this? It's absurd to have a discussion unless you see the point of this and admit it is meaningless rhetoric that has no bearing on the argument made about Ireland's failure.

    "You have NO PROOF on why Winston isn't a Dolphin."


    It doesn't matter, "why" - it's the fact they didn't land the guy (he went to KC for 4 years, $22 M). An easy signing. They could have rolled out the red carpet, made him a good offer. And, I think kept him. But, the fact is they haven't landed a player at that spot.

    The whole point that you fail to see is that, forget blaming everything on Parcells, Ireland has simply had many opportunities to shore up positions of need and hasn't done so. This remains true in spite of your misunderstanding of the points.
     
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    Not true. Maybe she was his accountant. A hooker and and accountant (even an illegal accountant) are two BIG differences. Before I had someone millions of dollars I want to know their past...in detail.
     
  24. Da 'Fins

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    Here's, again, the problem, Todd. The contracts with Dansby & Marshall were reasonable; but you have no idea what he would have spent on Manning.

    But, 1) There have been plenty of questions about Ross' businesses. Lots of owners can buy franchises, and not have money from their other businesses available to spend. Ross is in the real estate business and when he bought the Dolphins he was flying high. Not so much now. Frank McCourt was believed to be a "billionaire" as well. You don't get it, on this. Go a bit deeper. Get out of the kiddie pool. You simply don't know that he has money to burn and is willing to do so.

    2) Whether Ross does or not, there have been many times they had cap room to sign players and have saved money. Many teams with owners have done the same because they didn't have the money.

    The point of this is: a) either Ross has tied the hands of Ireland; or b) Ireland is failing to act aggressively to shore up numerous need positions.

    Overall, I think that Philbin was a great signing (per your previous remarks). I mentioned him on this board (Club level) before you ever thought about the guy or likely heard of him. And, he has great potential to make the Dolphins better. The problem is whether Ireland will get the pieces needed. It's not just about coaching it's about talent. Everyone thought Sparano was an OL guru and his O-linemen sucked.

    Ireland's record of getting the right talent for the right positions is mediocre. But, this franchise is not about being mediocre. The legacy of Shula is about consistent winning. And, in the time JI has been here (4 yrs), he hasn't shown enough for someone to have great faith in his leadership ability to do that. Period.
     
  25. cdz12250

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    Bull, an accountant who keeps the books for a prostitution operation and its pimp would no paragon of virtue. The kid would still be from a "troubled background."

    In the end, I don't know Ireland. All I know is that under no circumstances should the top executive in a nine-figure organization, while interviewing a kid barely out of his teens, have the lack of judgment, finesse and class that led Ireland to blurt out : "was your mother a prostitute?"

    My opinion. Some believe the question was not only proper but necessary. Agree to disagree.
     
  26. GARDENHEAD

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    Well there you go! If Peter King said it, it must be true!!!
     
  27. I hope your not suggesting we accept that article as unbias and unslanted.
     

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