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Who would you keep Pat Devlin or David Gerrard ?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by bbqpitlover, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. bbqpitlover

    bbqpitlover Well-Known Member

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    As we all know the Dolphins selected QB Tannehill with their first round pick. With the pick it means one of the quarterbacks on the roster will be cut before the beginning of the season. With Moore basically guaranteed as the starter this leaves David Gerrard and Pat Devlin on the cutting edge. My question is who would you keep and who you would release. I can make arguments for both. Devlin offers youth and skill, while Gerrard offers experience as a starting Qb. I would prefer Devlin on the roster but a piece of me also says what if Moore is injured, that would leave two young back ups with no real experience which Gerrard does provide.
     
  2. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Is this really a question? I'd keep Garrard, sight-unseen.
     
  3. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Garrard hands down Isnt Devlin PS eligible 1 more year?
     
  4. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Don't think this question needs to be answered now. Garrard was out of the league last year because of injury. Nobody has really seen Devlin. I'm sure this will get sorted out before the final roster is set.
     
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  5. Phinz13

    Phinz13 Active Member

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    Devlins a gonner. Gerrard will stay just on experience alone.
    Tannehill cant learn anything from Devlin
     
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  6. Daben

    Daben Well-Known Member

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    Also keep in mind we may yet add another QB, even if it's just a 7th rounder or rookie free agent. Didn't we spend some time with Darron Thomas at some point? He might have more long term potential than Devlin (which isn't saying that much). Devlin may have a fight to keep a spot on the practice squad.
     
  7. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    let them all compete
     
  8. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If Devlin shows something in practice/preseason, I'd be more inclined to keep him simply because he's going to be around a lot longer than David Garrard. But that's the only reason why. I could almost imagine Garrard not being on the roster week one.
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Whoever plays better in practice
     
  10. dsteve

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    who said moore is the starter? I think DG beats him out. He def has the talent edge over moore plus experience.
     
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  11. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I gotta believe Garrard is the better option to keep. You can never have enough solid QBs and if Garrard is healthy he can be a pretty efficient QB.
     
  12. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    Whomever wins the job in training camp.
     
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  13. Mr772

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    Garrard, Moore are this years starter and backup in some form. Devlin will be a camp arm then back to the practice squad. Tannehill will be best served holding the clipboard, keeping Matt and David both ensures that plan.
     
  14. DeDolfan

    DeDolfan Premium Member Luxury Box

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    It would depend on [if] when Moore got injured. If it happened several games into the season then Tannehill would probably take over at that point.


    But if one had to be cut, then I would just as soon keep Devlin. It looks now like the only reason Gerrard was signed was in case we didn't get "our guy" in the draft. Had we have had the 1st or 2nd pick, gerrard never would have surfaced here. Just MO.
     
  15. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    If Pat Devlin legitemately outperforms Garrard, then yes. I doubt it will happen though.
     
  16. HahaWOW

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    It's not between Garrard and Devlin. Garrard isnt PS eligible. Devlin is.

    Garrard isn't going to make this team. Well, It's going to either be Garrard or Matt Moore that isn't going to make this team. But, Matt Moore will be the game #1 starter. So, Garrard isnt going to make the team for the simple fact that the Dolphins, nor any NFL team is going to have 3 active qbs. That is a waste of a roster spot.

    And since Devlin can still be on practice squad, he will make the team and be the #3 Qb and spend the year on the practice squad. Matt Moore will be #1, with Tannehil being #2.

    So regardless who they are...there is going to only be 2 active roster qbs and 1 practice squad qb. So Garrard is the odd man out regardless of him being a Vet and a quality qb.

    And if Devlin isnt practice squad eligible, then he isnt going to make the team along with garrard. But i am pretty sure you can spend 2 seasons on PS. So, its going to come down to Moore vs Garrard, and Matt Moore will make the team and be the Starter. Garrard will get cut for the simple fact that no team is going to keep 3 active qbs. And you cant put tannehil on PS since he will get claimed by another team. So, he will be an active roster qb and the #2 qb. And therefore, the #3 qb will be a practice squad guy.

    So its going to look like this:
    Active Roster- Moore/Garrard, Tannehill
    Practice Squad-Devline (or a practice squad eligible QB if Devlin isnt eligible)
     
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  17. rafael

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    I would hope that we keep Garrard and Moore. I think that gives Tannehill the best chance to avoid being forced in too early. I don't think Devlin has the talent to play in this league.
     
  18. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    You keep Devlin if he shows signs of really developing and you truly think he has a solid future in this league. Otherwise, let him go and keep Garrard.
     
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  19. ckparrothead

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    Is this even a question?
     
  20. KingofMiami

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    Garrard easily
     
  21. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    If I recall correctly, the NFL abolished the Third Quarterback Eligibility rule following last season. And most teams carry three QBs because of the possibility of losing two QBs to injury. So we could carry - unless something else has come into play - Moore, Garrard and Tannehill on the active roster, and Devlin on the practice squad. Which is what I would do.
     
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  22. CrunchTime

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    Ther must be very little confidence in Devlins abilities as he he has been given no opportunities and we keep ion adding QBs.Odd man out IMO.
     
  23. Coral Reefer

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    Unless Devlin really impresses coaches in camp you have to go with the known commodity.
    That's Gerrard.
    He's not spectacular but he is experienced and you know the level of talent your getting if you have to put him in.

    This is assuming Gerrard is sharp, ready and stays in good health. No guarantee after being out a year either.
    If we see something in Devlin stash him on the Practice squad if possible.
     
  24. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    Halfway anticipating Garrard will have a career season. I think he's hungry, very experienced, talented and hard working. It will be up to Sherman to limit his exposure to things he doesn't do so well.
     
  25. HahaWOW

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    You are correct, starting last season there was a rule change about the #3 qb. But you are confused about the rule and it's the opposite of what you think. I do not know the exact specifics of it due to this new rule, basically all of the nfl teams only carried 2 qbs on active roster. Prior to last season the 3rd qb was able to be on active roster without it counting towards the 53 man/45 gameday dressed rule.

    Again, I dont know the exact specifics but I do know that due to this new rule last year, the #3 qb on basically all of the nfl rosters was the practice squad qb. We never had 3 active qbs on the roster at one time.

    Henne(Active), Moore(Active), Devlin(PS)
    Moore(Active), Rosenfels(Active), Devlin(PS)
    Moore(Active), Losman(Active), Devlin(PS)

    All other nfl teams started to only carry 2 active roster qbs after the new rule change that started last season. Prior to that was when teams carried 3 active roster qbs.

    UPDATE:
    I found a link explaining the rule.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...arterback-rule-46-active-players-on-game-day/

    the #3 qb is no longer the "emergency" dress qb. Which means that he now counts towards the 46 active players on gameday. Which is why teams now only keep 2 qbs on active.

    so we can keep 4 qbs. But only 2 will be active and 1 will be practice squad.

    So like I was explaining, Its not Garrard vs Devlin. Devlin will be a PS guy again this upcomming season.
     
  26. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    I really don't care about Pat Devlin.
     
  27. DeDolfan

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    I forgot about that. Now teams can activate 46 players on game day.
     
  28. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I really think its a non-issue as I agree with some that Devlin is still eligible for the practice squad. The competition is going to be between Moore and Garrard, if one has to go. We should know pretty quick whether Garrard has regained his form yet, he has more to prove than Matt Moore. Barring some unforeseen circumstance I believe Moore is the starter and Garrard has to take it away from him.
     
  29. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    Is this really a question,DUH? Of course it is. That's why the man asked it. :loser:

    Looks like Garrard should be on the team this year. We don't know what we have at QB for sure, so having NFL game experience
    will only help the team. Further more it helps Tanny develop quicker in what he needs to do to be QB ready in this league.
     
  30. the 23rd

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  31. bg12dm13cp10

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    Devlin sight-unseen for sure. Moore and Gabbard are on their way out. Devlin and Tannehill are the future, and the future is now.
     
  32. HahaWOW

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    yes, which means teams are no longer dressing 3 qbs. Prior to this rule change, the 3rd QB was able to dress and be active in emergency situations and not count against the active roster number. No they do count, which is why only 2 qbs dress for every team.
     
  33. cdz12250

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    Unless Moore gets hurt. You keep Garrard through the final cutdown, cut him if you don't want to keep three active quarterbacks, and if Moore gets hurt you bring him back knowing how to run the offense. The risk, of course, is someone else with a hurt QB or one not as good as Garrard picks him up. This is why I wouldn't play it cute and go ahead and waste the roster spot on him.
     
  34. dsteve

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    who the hell is delvin? I've never even seen him play and why do people think he's going to be good? if he cant get on a roster with moore as the qb youre trash. sorry buh bye
     

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