I've been a life long dolphin fan. At 26 years old I got to watch Dan Marino and really started to understand football during the prime of his career. since Dan retired it's been a brutal uphill struggle to be a dolphins fan. I haven't liked any of our coaching hires since Jimmy Johnson, which was the begining of the end for our franchise. Sure he built an amazing defense by plucking HoF and pro bowl talent from late rounds but he killed our offense to the point of no return. Every year with our draft strategy I haven't understood the bigger picture. John Avery Yatil Green Two firsts for Ricky Williams Jamar Fletcher/Passing on Drew Brees in favor of the incumbent loser Ted Ginn JR John Beck Jason Allen Pat White Chad Henne (even though I still think he didn't get a fair shot due to horrible coaching/playcallins and talent around him) With so many uselss early picks, the most productive being the two we gave up for ricky) it's no wonder why our franchise has been a laughing stock joke. Can't blame me for being a skeptic but us actually drafting so much potential at the quarterback position has me hopeful. It shows that Irealnd knows matt moore isn't the answer. We have a gameplan that doesn't involve struggling behind an inpet passer like Jay Fiedler. (plus the countless other bums) There are still things I don't understand. We took columbo on as a RT despite there being more solid options in FA, we retained guys like soali, over paid for dansby etc but if we can answer a couple more questions in this draft such as WR and the right side of our Oline and maybe an edge rushing LB/DE I'll be onboard and excited to watch the first half of the season and even more estatic if Tannehill gets to see the field because of what I expect to be inept play from potential starter matt moore. I don't expect a winning season this year but I can finally see some light at the end of this 15-17 year brutal garbage I've been subjected to since being spoiled by the greatness of Dan Marino.
I'm liking Ireland's choices since Parcells left. He clearly has diverted from the Parcells mantra. ie: Pouncey is not a Parcells pick. It also looks like he finally did a good job in late round picks with Clay and Jimmy Wilson. Ryan also is definitely not a Parcells pick. He doesn't fit all the criteria for a Parcells QB.
Ireland has been 4 for 4 in first round picks. Long, Davis, Odrick and Pouncey are all very good players.
He might already have with Thomas...jury's still out there. If he plays like he did before the hamstring injury..he's a baller. If not.....he's lumped in with that 2nd round curse.
maybe Ireland should start trading all our 2nd rounders to move back up to the 1st round. problem solved. I'm a genius.
Yeah, I still have faith in Thomas. I also think Koa Misi is going to be much better this year. And really, Sean Smith isn't bad.
Koa Misi might not survive this training camp and Sean Smith is on his way down the depth chart. So I doubt those 2. They added Marshall and I expect 1 CB pick to replace the fact that Jimmy Wilson moved to Safety.
the original poter has a good handle on how i have felt but I dont think Brian Griese ,Gus Ferrotte and Chad Henne got a fair chance because Wanny was too hell bent on forcing Feidler on the fan base. but we dont have a wr that has the wow factor Bess ? dont smoke anymore crack please Hartline I dont think he is a number 2 wr , we refused to use Welker when he was a fin or we would clearly have won a superbowl especaily if Gus or Brian are the qb. PHILBIN will be a good coach but we need playmakers and we missed out onwr and could have moved up for the other wr.
What does Wanny have to do with Gus or Henne? And we would've won the superbowl if we kept Welker? Golden...
How about undrafted players? Bess and Wake have turned out to be diamonds. Gotta give someone some credit for those 2.
Sean Smith will be the starting cornerback opposite Vontae Davis in 2012. Richard Marshall will be the nickel back but as much as teams use the nickel formation, he will practically be a starter.
Gus was old and on his way out anyway. Brian Griese could have been good in the right situation but I'm pretty sure he didn't do much after he left here either and the jury is still out on henne. Depends what he does for the rest of his career but going to jax is not a good start being that they recently drafted a qb in round 1 and their poor talent levels on offense outside a MJD and now blackmon, who are better than any combo he's ever had in miami. You really lose me on the welker thing though. He's a good solid player but not a main weapon. The key cogs on the pats offense last year were their TEs, HoF qb and one of the best pass blocking lines ever in the NFL. Welker put up some nasty stats in the first half but after a couple weeks of that teams starting shutting him down because the pats have no other options at WR. Don't expect him to have the year he had last year again this year. If welker stayed in miami he'd have no super bowl rings and would maybe be a 70 catch a year guy.
4/4 very good players? VD/Odrick are servicable at this point. Not exactly what you want from round 1. Especially considering the guys most of us wanted (Hakeem Nicks and Earl Thomas). Jury is out on Pouncey, but he played well for a rook. And Long is obviously elite, but still debatable as to whether it was the right choice.
They didn't give him $6 million to just play the nickel. He'll start on the outside and slide into the nickel. Right now Smith will be the first guy to come off the bench on the outside.
Odrick gave us 6 sacks most of which was in the last half of the season. He was also beating LT's. He's clearly coming on. Vontae I'll give you as he really needs to play more consistently, but lets not mistake him for Jason Allen.
odrick was hurt and had limited time last year. he gets more time. davis however....either **** or get off the pot.
Well I could argue with some of your reasoning...(for example, I think Soliai will continue to do well. He's a force in the middle of the DL and has matured into a decent NT, Dansby is better than what we have seen from him, a lot due to scheme and not his ability or inability.) but we're all in the same boat...starting off every May very optimistic and then having Wanny, Saban, Cam-Cam, Sparano and the teams they field let us down, but this is a different move. This isn't Henne in the second round. This is a guy with a lot of potential. That is a very ugly word, but it may still pan out for us... Remember that Sparano acquired additional personnel power after Ross got left at the alter by Harbaugh, so Colombo could have been more of a Sparano move than Ireland... Lets just see how this turns out...Oh, and you forgot Eddie Moore in your list...oh, wait...he was a second rounder...hehehe
I wasn't crazy about the Vernon pick. I agreed with the position need, but that's a pure potential pick. In large part it seems based on the idea that UM coaching sucks and that their players may be better with good coaching. That isn't an unreasonable idea. All the other picks, I at least liked. The Tannehill pick, I loved.
The miller pick is the most perplexing to me. In a draft so deep at WR we come away with nothing. teams will be able to stack the box and play man press all day. Our only real hope is hartline has a breakout year, gates gets on the field and does well or the bum with the goofy name we picked up from CAR does something. I mean **** a project at a pos we needed was fine even though I think odrick could play a 4-3 end but taking an injury concern for a pos where we had a 1000 yard rusher (i don't think bush is going to duplicate that) and a second round rookie that we moved up for...whats the point. its stuff like this that make me wonder what the hell our FO is doing just like the jake grove nonsense and brandon marshell for 2 2nds and giving him away for 3rds.
I agree with you on Long, Davis, and Pouncey. I think these were all solid picks in the first round. I still have a BIG question mark regarding Odrick. While he did have six sacks last season, he only had a total of 21 tackles and assists the entire year. This come out to less then 1.5 tackles a game over a 16 game season. He was out injured during his first year in the league. So his production has been very minimal so far for a player selected in the first round of the 2010 draft. Hopefully with the team moving to a 4-3 defense, and Taylor and Langford no longer with the Dolphins. Odrick will be able to show that he was a good pick as a first round selection a few years ago. Until he shows it on the field on a consistent basis, Odrick has to be considered a very questionable first round selection at this time.
I've said it about million times, odrick needs another year or maybe even two since he didn't really see the field much last season. I also don't understand where he's going to play since we took that DE/OLB from UM. I guess it's a rotation and you move odrick to the middle on passing downs?
Sam Shields was absolutely awful as a defensive back at the University of Miami. He had been switched from WR in his Senior season and it was obvious that because of the poor coaching he received during the Shannon regime, he just wasn't prepared to play the position. The Packers took a chance on him in free agency two years ago and with some good coaching he has turned into a very productive DB in the NFL. I am sure Philbin saw that the problem with players coming out of UM with Shannon as the HC was that they just weren't improving over their careers because of the lack of quality coaches on Shannon's staff. Philbin also was able to see how a talented UM football player could produce at the NFL level if he actually has effective coaching. Because of his suspension last year, Vernon never seem to regain the explosiveness he showed the previous year. I thought two years ago that Vernon would be a late first round pick or early second round pick when he finally came out. While he was not real productive last year in the few games he was able to play. I think with good coaching and the ability to play every week without having to deal with another suspension, Vernon could end up being a big surprise as a pass rusher in the NFL.
he might be good i understand but id rather see a project at WR since we have nothing and this draft is supposed to be so deep.
The problem is that a first round selection should not need 3-4 years to be productive. He may end up being a quality defensive lineman in the future but my expectations for first round draft picks is they should be able to come in and start immediately, or at least make more of an impact than Odrick has so far.
Hello..... McFly ??? Egnew is basically a WR, he's our new go to guy. Much better than Criner or Keshawn Martin or McNutt.
Well that's pretty stupid. The guy was hurt his rookie season and didnt play. Then he had a camp shortend preseason and didn't really get on the field until the end of the year. It's not like he was a top ten blue chip prospect...he was an early 20s pick. I'm not saying I like the pick because I didn't but saying he's a bust right now isn't right and is pretty ignorant.
We already have a slightly below average TE...two of them actually if you count clay. Our wrs on the other hand....suck. period.
I stated that I expect more from a first round draft pick than what I have seen from Odrick so far. I also noted that he still may end up being a quality defensive lineman in the future. The only person who used the term, "bust" in his comments was you, because I certainly didn't. The fact you read my comments and took from it that I called Odrick a bust at this time, just shows that you are pretty ignorant when it comes to reading something into a comment that was never stated.
