1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Has the negative sensationalism of So Fl. media help shape our culture to what it is?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    I say their ignorance, lack of football intellect, and their desire to become more famous then they deserve, has made them irresponsible and bias to their own path to wannabe stardom..

    A theory that I've been thinking about, is the correlation between these wanna be national pundits in our town spewing their garbage to do anything to create their own buzz, and the increased deterioration of our culture, is no coincidence, every culture has a majority of the fanbase who doesn't follow and know the team as a lot of us here do, they are easily influenced by what they read and hear from their local outlets, and the men they have here runnin things are far below par as to what's going on in other towns..

    So wannabes, why don't you step up your game and realize that you are a local beat reporter, and you have a responsibility to look at football situations, and report with some accuracy and responsibility, not just what you think will stir the pot in the fanbase..Or is that just impossible for you??, or are you that dumb when it comes to this game and projecting what is really happening.
     
  2. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    45,652
    19,304
    113
    Dec 3, 2007
    Windsor, ON. CANADA
    Id say its highly likely. Theyre pretty much all a bunch of idiotic douchebags.

    However, that being said, I think we had a good draft. If you look at the value Ireland managed to get for us at pretty much each and every pick, and fill our needs at the same time, Id say he did a nice job. Of course, thats just looking at it on paper right now, the proof of that will show when these guys get playing. However, you wont, and Im sure tot his point haven't heard a word about a pretty good draft for us so far yet in any type of media. Local, or national.
     
  3. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    I think it began with Cole & Mando. I think they genuinely don't like Miami as a town, let alone as a team. Then when we started to fall and got into "Saban's ******* Parade & Media Lockout", hit 1-15, then had "Saban's ******* Parade & Media Lockout 2, This Time Its Parcells", their dislike turned to hate. They gained more followers and notoriety because fans got increasingly pissed. They realized they could fan the fire and improve their own stature. Cole moves to Yahoo, Mando gets a radio show, so why mess with success.

    At this point though, it is beyond hatred and they both are actively and consciously trying to destroy this FO through the media. They use each other as sources and cleverly hide "maybe" & "may" in their outlandish accusations so they have an out when called on it. They are basically the evil thorn in our sides. Say what you will about Ireland but at least he's trying to improve the view of the FO. They are being more open. They are not following the Parcells Blueprint for Success 1987 Edition. But these two assclowns are still trying the same crap, as evidenced byu the article I posted earlier.
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    Bingo..
     
    Fin D likes this.
  5. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    11,681
    10,413
    113
    May 7, 2008
    New Orleans
    Wow. You guys are really overstating the effects of the media.
     
    schmolioot and Phyl like this.
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    We'll see, meaning it is up to the team itself to "BIM", one of the problems with "super coaches" is when they fail, and they have failed in Miami, one does not need the media to be cynical, when you hype, you have to deliver the team only delivered in 2008.
     
  7. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    No we aren't. Most of the ridiculousness about Harbaugh, Fisher, Manning & Flynn were all made up, exaggerated or pushed by Cole & Mando, whose articles were then quoted and sourced.
     
    bran and djphinfan like this.
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    If you think they are all idiotic douchebags, then don't you think that has something to do with how the national media gets their news?, and right or wrong, gets interpreted the way they have told the story?, it all translates into us the fanbase, looking bad.

    How many times have you see BS articles by our locals, I mean sh@& that they are just completely off base on, and the national media gets a hold of it, then they mock us because of it..Bottom line, these amateurs that you so eloquently speak of,are representing....Us...and their doing the worst job ive seen around the country.
     
  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    I don't think so Garden, as much reading and research I do, I think the theory is more accurate then you think..They are our voice, and most of them, are terrible.
     
    siciliansith likes this.
  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    And all that Bs has affected our perception, which includes the perception of a lot of our own fans about their own team, anyone who cared to look deeply into the situations independently, would of come out with rational explanations, but no, they didn't, they chose the different route, they chose to jump on the story of the new owner who doesn't know about football, is ruining a franchise...sounds interesting huh?..They have irresponsibly twisted the truth to get hits and sell papers, lying scumbags.
     
    Fin D likes this.
  11. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    The thing is, our FO may have made a misstep or two, during all that. I don't know. I do know I cannot trust any article from or that sources/references Mando or Cole.

    I mean for the love of god, Mando actually had a hand in plagiarizing Universal Draft (Boomer, CK & Con for those that don't know).
     
  12. bran

    bran Senior Member

    4,525
    1,505
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    New Hampshire
    manning and flynn were wildly blown out of porportions.
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    These local reporters have had a lot to do with the character assassination thats going on with our name...The national media is getting their cues from the local beat...and the local beat has an agenda, is amateur, and chooses to do surface level analysis.
     
  14. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

    10,281
    5,232
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Back in Miami
    "journalism" is a loaded term in these days DJ.

    Journalism isn't about bringing facts to light anymore it's about creating drama and discussion no matter what you have to say to get it out of the public.
    "Sports Journalists" are probably the worst besides Political ones.

    It's not just S. FL. though.
    It's everywhere.
     
    siciliansith and djphinfan like this.
  15. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    This is what your response made me think of.... Bill Parcells...Ross inherited everything that that man brought to the table, everything, and we all know what he was all about at this point, he never gave a sh&$ about your team, he never cared about bringing a championship to this town, he brought all his people, gave them their jobs, and did a half *** one at that..Hell, I think Harbaugh is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and when you inherit a team that is losing and getting pressured, and you happen to be apart if the same alumni as that bad ***, you make a move..I would of made the move as well, he owed no loyalty to Parcells people, none...Wouldn't that of been a good story to write.
     
  16. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

    21,176
    10,130
    113
    Jan 14, 2008
    Hornell, NY
    It's all about winning and losing. There's **** heads in every NFL market.
     
    cdz12250 likes this.
  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    I agree that it is everywhere, but there is always a first and a last right?, you don't think what they have been doing to this franchise has affected our national perception?, I mean a couple of 7 and 9 seasons is not as bad as the perception tells us we are...I think they have done their part to curb this fanbases enthusiasm for football and their team.
     
  18. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    I'd say that a bunch of losing seasons have changed the culture. The media may fuel a few fires but losing is what it is. It stinks and we want to root for winners.
     
  19. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    I have spent my life on the road, 225 days a year, I've stayed in every market for long periods of time, football is my hobby, and while your statement may have some merit, I think there is an inordinate difference of talent, ethics, and intention.
     
  20. dsteve

    dsteve Banned

    514
    70
    0
    Sep 26, 2011
    They write the way they do because this team has been a ****ing joke for 15 plus years now. I don't go out of my way to read them, I tend to stick with national stuff and what i see with my own eyes but you can't except reporters around here to write good articles about teams that go 6-10 and miss the playoffs every year.
     
    cdz12250 likes this.
  21. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007

    No one here is asking for good articles about 6 and 10 teams.
     
  22. dsteve

    dsteve Banned

    514
    70
    0
    Sep 26, 2011
    The point is if they win, the negative **** stops. They havent been good for over 15 years. what do you expect the local beat writters to write about? The great effort a bunch of over paid bums put out in a losing effort to teams with more playoffs wins this decade than we have in our history?
     
    cdz12250 likes this.
  23. dsteve

    dsteve Banned

    514
    70
    0
    Sep 26, 2011
    take detroit for example. I bet the writters were down on them until millen was run out of town. Now I'm sure the writters love the new FO because they are winning or atleast show some promise.
     
  24. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    10,265
    7,907
    113
    Nov 28, 2007
    Coconut Grove
    Blaming the spors writers for writing negative articles about a perennial loser is like complaining about being disciplined for misbehaving. Straighten out the problem and the negativity goes away. It's simple cause and effect,

    I'm sure these guys would rather rave about greatness and point out what makes the team great, digging up the occasional bit of dirt once in a while, than ***** about losing and speculate as to the cause. Think about Edwin Pope when Shula was winning all the time. Being positive didn't hurt his career. Think of Dave Hyde today.
     
    Ozzy, Adam Strange and texanphinatic like this.
  25. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

    7,191
    3,940
    113
    Nov 25, 2007
    Thomasville, GA
    I don't think it is possible to overstate the negative impact the media has had on this country in any aspect of our lives in the last 40 years. Just look at what happens every day in the political arena and even more so, what we all know will happen in the next several months as we build up to election day. The ineptitude of the sports media in Miami is just a microcosmic example of the abysmal depths the social and cultural milieu of this country has plunged by the ever present always talking never reflective talking heads prostituting themselves to sell the next commercial and get more money in the process. Never underestimate the siren call of money or power. In the media, both come together in, by and large, an absolutely trashy cataclysm.
    I can well remember when the media was unbiased and unopinionated. That has long since escaped the public presence or their conscience.
     
  26. gamblerx

    gamblerx New Member

    886
    182
    0
    Sep 7, 2010
    Homestead, FL
    Barely read or listen to any South Florida sportswriter or radio tough guy.
     
  27. dsteve

    dsteve Banned

    514
    70
    0
    Sep 26, 2011
    I don't buy into the political analogy simply because if we win the negative stories stop. In politics the hacks will cheerlead for their side and demonize the other no matter what the state of the country.
     
  28. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

    39,245
    10,681
    0
    Dec 2, 2007
    Miami FL
    Its not even that, Cote called for Marino to traded and wanted Scott Mitchell to start for us.

    Hell look at that crap Berardino's "article" started and I use that term loosely because it truely is a joke of an article.
     
    Fin D likes this.
  29. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    72,252
    43,684
    113
    Nov 27, 2007
    We are seeing it happen right now.

    The stupid as hell article by Beradino, is now infecting the national media.

    Michael Silver says:
    The bold is a link to the article Beradino article that Ireland has already squashed, but it doesn't matter. Its now truth as far as people are concerned. This has happened with Dez Bryant stuff, the Harbaugh stuff, the Fisher stuff and the Manning/Flynn stuff.

    This is exactly what we're talking about. Soon the denials won't matter and we'll get the whole, "weeeeeelllllllll where there's smoke there's fire" bs.
     
    djphinfan likes this.
  30. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    This is why I love the new stance by Ross and Ireland...It's the only thing you can do to stop the ignorant and stupid, don't let the ignorant and stupid create your perception.
     
    Fin D likes this.
  31. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Man, tell us how you really feel...

    But you are somewhat right. So. Fla. is bush league when it comes to our media folks, with some exceptions, of course. But I think since Saban was here, where the press was all but ignored, then the Tuna regime where the press has been locked out has contributed to the lack of any positivity from them.
     
    DOLPHAN1 and djphinfan like this.
  32. DearbornDolfan

    DearbornDolfan Active Member

    375
    146
    43
    Mar 7, 2009
    Cole is a venomous ***. Omar Kelly at some point went from a humble guy who reported the straight facts to an egomaniac who has actually outdone Cole in the venomous *** department. As for Mando, without Parcels to weigh him down Ireland (or some spook type the Boss has on the payroll as an "advisor") has deftly turned Mando in a supreme example of counter-intelligence work. In other words, Mando actually does have sources in the organization, but those sources are exactly the ones Ireland wants him to have and they report the information Ireland wants "leaked". But that's just my observation.
     
  33. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    99,377
    37,301
    0
    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    I noticed that as well, OmarK went from decent guy to tool over the last 6 months or so, I unfollowed him on Twitter and have not missed his information at all, toss in the keyboard tough guy stuff and why bother with him?
     
    djphinfan likes this.
  34. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    Yeah, let's start a boycott of them...untwitter their asses...that's their goal now you know, the more following the get they cooler they think they are, the more stupid controversy they want to cause.
     
  35. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    Is this how you want the national media to perceive your team.cause if the local reporters wrote with some depth, football business intelligence and some common sense, this wouldn't be spiraled out of control..

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php
     
  36. bran

    bran Senior Member

    4,525
    1,505
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    New Hampshire
    yeah its getting out of hand now even on national radio. even when ross says something harmless the media twists it and goes off on it. like the comment ross made about how he hopes one day he can retire the number 17 and the national media said he was comparing tannehill to marino which is ****ing nonsense and not what he said.
     
    djphinfan likes this.
  37. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    I go back to my original post, the local media has shaped the current perception, the national media get their cues from them.
     
  38. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

    20,810
    8,965
    0
    Jan 7, 2008
    Hollywood, Florida
    It's not about negative articles. It's that their articles aren't based in fact.

    I don't care if we were 0-16 an article about Jake Long being on the way out because we drafted a tackle is ridiculous.
     
    Fin D likes this.
  39. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    111,652
    67,546
    113
    Dec 20, 2007
    so either they know that yet they still post them ( which makes them negative) or they believe it, which make them complete idiots, which is it Bernadino?
     
    Alex44 likes this.
  40. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    I wanna read that again. Anyone have links to the piece?
     

Share This Page