Hey Folds I just saw this and I think it's nice we are at least looking at him. He still has the physical skills at least. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2544/chad-ochocinco
But why didn't we work out Plaxico? His 3 TD game was more than Ocho had all year, if memory serves...
Really? He had the best QB in the game last year in a pass heavy offense and all he could muster is 15 receptions and one TD. Glad we are taking a look I guess but no reason to be to excited about the possibility.
I think Ochocino's skillset is a much better fit than Burress' for the offense. Burress is really limited in the routes he can run.
Ocho isn't scheduled to WO. Ocho heard we were picked for Hard Knocks on HBO and immediately issued a press release about working out for us, kidnapped his agent and jumped on a plane to Phins HQ.
It's just a workout but with our group of receivers being fairly unknown other than Bess and Hartline, I don't think it'd be a bad signing.
I don't particularly agree. His route running isnt very good but he can run a lot more than 9 routes and fades.
we have absolutely nothing to lose if he is still viable on the playing field 1) he will come @ a bargain price 2) we only have two real starters 3) the stable is filled with projects, possibilities & late round picks let him compete, there will little if any opportunity cost to the newbies the price & experience will be right. he has always wanted to play for the team he is an ex- ProBowler has always been considered eccentric but a good teammate if he has no demands, can come in @ a reasonable price & the work out goes well why not give him a shot?
Watched a workou with ocho, mike Wallace and that other good Pitt wr and ocho was the most impressive. Ocho doesn't just run the routes he wants he's just not as crisp. Took him a long time to grasp the patriot offense so he isn't the sharpest tool but he may still have a little value. Let's see what he has left b
disagree, he's a shell of his former self. Maybe it's an indictment on the receiver group, still don't think we will sign him, but I'm already surprised were working him out.
What are you basing that on? You can't say the 2011 tape because he barely has any. This is a simple offense according to our coaching staff (simple to understand but a fairly dense playbook) so maybe it's something that Ochocino can grasp. We don't know until we try him out and a try-out does not hurt. It's arrogant not to give him a try-out based on our current wide receiver corp. EDIT: In the right offense, I think he could be a solid contributor like a Donald Driver... which is something we need. Bess and Hartline will be fine as the main two contributors in the passing game this year.
The guy runs good routes, and he's clearly not stupid. I'm curious what his real issue in New England was.
Maybe there wasn't a McDonald's close enough to the Pats' practice facility. I remember watching the Bengals Hard Knocks a few years ago, and Chad made no bones about how he is a devoted customer of McD's and eats there as often as possible.
I always felt there were personal differences between him and Brady. He just didn't really seem to want to get him the ball for some reason.
I honestly don't know that he's better than Brian Hartline right now. Sure wasn't in 2011. That's not a knock on Hartline. I just think -- best case scenario -- Chad would join Brian in the starting lineup. Not getting carried away with this though. It's just a workout. Donald Driver is probably the guy they'd like to have most.
Remember now, we used the lockout as an excuse for everyone else. He had little time to get acclimated, & was an afterthought in an offense that thrived on the short passing game with welker, tight ends, and backs. Deion Branch already had a report with Brady and got most of what few deep passes there were to go around. While I like chad ( he's not a dumb criminal fresh outta the pen like the alternative some are suggesting ) I just think its too late and we are in a developmental stage with our offense. We need guys who can get up to speed and be productive down the road for Tannehill. For it to be worth it he'd have to be a MAJOR contributor early on. He does fit the mold they're looking for, he's ballsy over the middle too. I want to keep as many of these young guys as we can tho.
Sure, he can, but he doesn't. He does whatever he wants. I know that's what I look for to help my rookie QB.
[video=youtube;QcffMecIwDA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcffMecIwDA[/video] It's offseason, no defenders, no pads, but fun to watch Ocho next to two top dog and rising stars. I'm no guru, I don't even pretend to be one after staying a Holiday Inn, but it seems Chad's feet and cuts look much better then the rest. Whether he has the top end speed remains to be seen
Ocho never mastered the ne offense. On numerous plays early in the year you could see brady and welker telling him where he needed to be. He never understood the offense or the terminology.
Not necessarily. I mean we haven't seen them with pads on and everyone except Jeff Fuller and Tannehill are starting from square 1.
What? Mike Wallace showed exactly what he always shows. Great in a straight line. He half assed a lot of that practice and his footwork, especially on the ladder, was lazy.
Talking about routes, like that slow motion one Ocho runs in the beginning. I love that talk about how Wallace is only some deep threat lol The guy is so underrated it's criminal. Brown is solid in his own right too.
Rumor was he was still being told on the field where to line up the week he was cut. New England's playbook was just too complicated for him.
Chads cuts are amazingly crisp in that video. Mike is scary fast and explosive but his cuts are pretty sloppy. Chad looked impressive, I wouldn't mind this signing.
thanks JD, man it's fun to watch professionals.You could really see the explosiveness in Wallace on that last play, the deep slant, nasty speed..My thoughts on Ocho I've written, I started a thread on him 3 years ago, I wanted to try and get him when Parcells was here, I knew Ocho was very fond of Parcells, and I knew that the feelings were mutual, I also said that he was gonna light us up when he came to play at our stadium that year, he did, big time, dude put on a display in our building, however, then the sh&$ started with all the reality crap, and he changed, he stopped being that guy who slept at the building, stopped being the guy who wanted to be the best, and when I looked close, you could start to see the body shrink, pissed me off because He did sh&$ that I didn't think he was all about..Well, this tape looked pretty good, his legs still look a bit atrophied ( in his prime Chad was built legit), but maybe if he's been in the gym, and doing things right this offseason, ok, let's give'em a look.
Please, NO!!!! We should have a sign on the front door reading, "No Prima Donnas Allowed" Chad Johnson went from "Ocho Cinco" to "uno cinco" No thank you!
