Really thought he'd make it further. I guess Moore, Pruitt, and Wallace are actually showing something. One would think if they weren't, as holdovers of the old regime they would be out first. Or maybe Moye just didn't show what he needed to.
Interesting they'd bring in another FB after just signing Lane. So we have Clay, Lane, Mahaffey, and possibly Messam that could all play it? Obviously Clay's versatile enough to play multiple spots, but I just find it interesting, especially with Ovie Mughelli still out there.
The reality is the Dolphins didn't give Moye much of a chance by cutting him before he could strap the pads on and show what he could do in that environment. Padless OTAs were never going to be his venue. If they'd let him come to training camp then I think he would have been able to show that he can get off the press better than most young receivers, especially amongst the bigger guys. As a big guy, I think he was overshadowed a bit by Jeff Fuller who is more explosive and also has the ability to get off the press.
Wallace is the one that keeps getting positive mentions thus far, but IMO that means very little at this point.
Wallace gets love because of his pure size and speed combination, which is what I've seen cited by the player(s) that mention him. Having a wide receiver unit where the likes of Roberto Wallace and Legedu Naanee get a large portion of the praise is exactly why Jeff Ireland reached out in desperation for Chad OchoCinco.
Too bad. Seemed like a good kid who had a tough road to the NFL. Wish him well in the future. [video=youtube;0lsFIXnrwfM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lsFIXnrwfM[/video]
I doubt it. When they cut you in favor of the likes of Chris Hogan, that shows what they think of you. Come to think on it, Derek Moye never fit the Joe Philbin receiver profile to begin with. They had three guys that didn't fit that size profile and both Wallace and Fuller have captured more acclaim than Moye in the padless OTAs. If Philbin is generally against those 6'4" guys because he doesn't think they can move well enough to consistently beat man coverage, then I could see him deciding to trim the worst of the big guys.
Little surprised to see us do that before theyve even put the pads on and had an actual practice, but hmm... it is what it is I guess. Im sure there's a reason, guess he wasnt getting in done in OTA's so far.
Just goes to show Joe is serious about all the pass catchers catching rather than dropping passes! I read somewhere that Mr. Gates is also on this hot seat.
I think it's at a point where we have these mandatory OTAs and a mini minicamp coming up, so they wanna get solid reps for certain receivers, and Fuller may have flashed.
I didn't mean to imply it would be with us. Just that he will probably get a call from an NFL club. If he does, maybe he learned something from our OTA's that will help him stick.
Well Fuller was First Team All Big 12 in 2010 in a conference including Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, and Nebraska. He could still be pretty good if he gets back on that track.
Absolutely Km, I've said that getting him in undrafted free agency was a real nice get..I say that because when I watched him on tape, I saw a certain type of confidence when he went up against top competition, and for an undrafted free agent, at that size, it was a good swagger.
He was a total maniac on STs last season. The STs coach heaped some praise on his abilities. The last couple of WR slots will probably go to whomever can do the most on STs, or at least one slot will.
Terence Brown probably not in shape enough to be taken seriously, even though he is pretty athletic and moves well. Coaches aren't going to want to put pillowy dough boys in front of the Hard Knocks cameras. On the other hand, Zach Thomas was notoriously chided by teammates for his physique as a rookie...until hitting started.
One of the more interesting facets to all of this is the 3 holdover Wr's, Pruitt, Wallace and Moore, are out of practice squad options. Which means it is move up, or move out for them, with Fuller, Matthews, Hogan and Cunningham effectively vying for their old PS slots at a minimum, so far Wallace is making the most noise all 3 are good ST gunners as well.
I recall their teammates referred to he and Izzo, as Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble when they were both rookies. Zach was Fred and Larry was Barney.
Yep, he does have to show more at Wr as Wallace is a rock solid gunner as well, both are big and fast. Not sure about Marlon Moore, who flashes but has poor hands.
If Wallace and Pruitt are close as WRs, then it is likely special teams acumen will be the deciding factor. Early in 2010, I wasn't impressed with Wallace covering kicks. He had a tendency to get out of his lane far too soon. He may have improved. I've yet to see Pruitt fail to do that and cost the team a long return.
hard to argue with, making the catch is much more important than YAC in the WCO where moving the chains is more important. The size helps a WR make the catch but not necessarily always get the big YAC.