Take it for what it is worth..... Although he has 4 less wins than I would have pegged New England at this year..... http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/43694/afc-east-more-or-less
They're basically saying we'll be worse then we were last year.*That's effing stupid. How the hell is this team worse then last year? We brought in additions at the OL, QB, RB, TE, DL, CB, Coaching Staff. They only places you can make a real a legit argument that we lost talent is at WR & Safety, and even then I think its debatable.
I will say if they get no QB play, they might be.....their offense is Reggie Bush...now that Marshall is gone....hopefully the WCO has something more to it, then what they have run for the past few years......or else it is going to be opposite defenses stacking the box to stop Bush, daring whomever is QB to throw.....
I have noticed Clayton is never too kind towards us, so no surprise. Besides he looks like a real douche so screw him.
We have the same QB plus a pro bowl QB and a number 8 pick. Since this whole thing is how we look on paper, then there is no way in hairy hell we look worse at QB on paper than last year.
yeah and the rookie is the best option.... The passing game without Marshall is going to be pretty suspect I would think.....Marshall and Bush last year allowed each other to be really good, they took defenders off each other and as well both of them made Moore look better than he is/was IMO....How does Bess do coming off a knee injury this offseason? Can Hartline get open with the best CB's going at him week in and out? Rookie RT? Rookie TE? Whole new playbook? Whole new offense gameplan and coaching staff? There ARE questions coming into this year on that side of the ball that go futher than "ehh we made additions we should be good", I think we can agree on that.... I have no doubt Miami's defense will be good this year, as well as the kicking game, and Fields.....and their schedule is tit... Basically it wouldnt shock if they do go 4-12 or 9-7....I believe 9 is their ceiling though...
John Clayton = World's oldest living progeria victim. If Matt Moore regresses and/or Garrard isn't that good, 4-12 is a possibility, but a pretty low ball prediction given our schedule.
Let's just say that if I were a betting man and I were to find that 7.5 win over/under...I would bet the under. Ryan Tannehill is like a sword hanging over your head. Good draft pick, but if the team gets antsy in the pantsy with him, and/or the quarterback situation above him on the depth chart erodes (one injury to David Garrard's problematic back could be enough)...suddenly you've got a recipe for a team that loses a whole lot of ball games.
Look this is all speculation about how they'll produce, but you cannot tell me that ON PAPER: Henne, Moore, Devlin doesn't look worse than Garrard, Moore, Tannehill.
I love this sh&^, all the media has bought into each other perceptions..check it out, because the bills started out fast and then completely crapped the bed, they are an up and coming team because they signed the overrated mario williams, we started slow, but seriously came on during the whole 2nd half of the season, finishing 6 and 3 and giving up some games against the superbowl teams, yet were sh^% in their eyes, because they think Ross is a meddling owner. we know this team better then anyone, we do know that they have a good attitude about playing as a team, we know their tough, we know they will elevate their play against good teams, we know we have a good defense, and we know they have size. Im not saying we will win the division, but I have us at 9 and 7.
To get to 8-8 or 9-7 then I believe David Garrard has to win the job in camp and stay healthy. Just my opinion. I'm not saying it's impossible to do it, I'm just saying I have trouble imagining that kind of outcome while the team is going through controversy and instability at that position. I have a whole slew of reasons to be optimistic about the Dolphins in 2012. As a matter of fact I've had a 5,000 word article illustrating ten such reasons just sitting on the shelf for 3 or 4 weeks, never bothered to publish it as I'd intended. But there are also reasons to be pessimistic about the Dolphins, none so big as the possibility that the Dolphins lose patience and put themselves in position to have to turn to Ryan Tannehill too early. If David Garrard wins the competition in camp as I suspect, that ironically puts them one step closer to that potential disaster, as they could feel safe enough to trade Matt Moore or otherwise ditch him unceremoniously. The irony of that would be one injury to David Garrard's already problematic back would mean Tannehill has to go in and from there, you could have a disaster. Or let's say the Dolphins drop a few games in the beginning of the season you wouldn't have expected. Not hard to imagine, as both the offense and defense are trying to learn new systems, and the first game of the year is against a Houston Texans team many suspect could go to the Super Bowl or at least the AFC Championship. One weakness I suspect could be seen in the defense initially as they get used to the new system will be perimeter running. The Texans wouldn't even need to exploit that weakness to get the better of us in their own house in Week 1, but the next week we come back home to face the Raiders at home, and guys like Darren McFadden and Marcel Reese could easily exploit weaknesses in the inside-out abilities of your defense. Let's say we drop a "surprising" one to them (I use the quotes because Oakland fans are looking at us on their schedule the same way we're looking at them, I'm sure), then follow up with an always-tough division battle with the New York Jets at home. Let's say the Jets just take a tough game, as they've done many times in the past. We're now 0-3 and not only have we dropped our first two home games, but these were the vaunted September 1pm home games that all the fans were clamoring for the Dolphins to get back so we could have a home field advantage again. Morale would be at a pretty low point, yet it's not all that much of a stretch to foresee us being in that position. That's the kind of position you could be in where a weak coach could make a decision he regrets to go too soon to a young rookie that isn't really ready. If that happens, things could really go south...and maybe we'd be lucky to get to 4-12 from there.
Don't know why people freak out about these things. First off it's just a prediction and secondly while I think the prediction is a little low it's not that far off. For those stating they know were definitely better off than last year I have to wonder what they are thinking. We may end up better but as of right now there is little to base that off of. QB position is still an unknown. Will Moore give consistent play? Can Gerrard come back from a big injury and a year off and be even decent enough to really challenge for the job? Yes we have a #8 pick at QB but to Expect him to make a big difference rookie year is a little much. WR crew has no threats..... I know, I know.... WR talent is meaningless in this offense.... Keep telling yourself that. Bush had a career year and stayed healthy all year. I don't expect that to happen again if he continues running between the tackles. Defense is a real mystery at a number of positions especially the secondary and pass rush. Questionable secondary and 1 pass rusher? recipe for disaster. We have brand new coaches and brand new schemes on each side of the ball. Do I need to go on???? Doubt on whether this team can have success this year is VERY warranted.
If Matt Moore wins the job a 10 win season is "doable" I still think as of now he is the best QB on the roster. Buffalo at 9-7 is NOT a stretch imo, they will be a much better team. Jets? Im thinking 7-9 maybe even 6-10 New England?? Best team in the AFC with Houston a close second.
If Garrard replicates some of his earlier campaigns, he's the best all the way. When was the last time we had a QB with a 100+ rating in a season?
How can Philbin be better than Sparano on paper? That makes no sense. There is no paper on Philbin. He's never been a HC.
Hmmm. You're right. Until we hired him, Philbin must have just been a figment of my imagination. my bad.
No. But its literally impossible to say he is a better HC than Sparano. There is nothing to base that on. Its pure speculation. We all want and think he will be better, but we dont know. How can we?
Sorry if this has been said already, but a rookie head coach yes, but anyone remember Sparano's rookie season? He had a vet play solid at QB, and won the division! Having a team without film on them is a BIG bonus! If we go into Houston and win, I'll be completely optimistic after week 1!
The WR position is not debatable, we got worse by getting rid of Marshall. Sent from the depths of hell using Tapatalk.
So I'm clear, you want to say I can't say Philbin is going to be better than Sparano because its based on speculation, even though I'm arguing how Clayton says we'll be worse than last year based on...speculation? Sigh. I have said all along in handful of posts in this thread, since this is all speculation, what basis does Clayton have to say we'll be worse this year. Are you really saying if you had the choice of Sparano or Philbin as your HC, you'd pick Sparano at this point...really? Would you also take Henne, Moore, Devlin over Garrard, Moore, Tannehill too, or is that too much speculation in a thread about speculation?
You say Marshall can't be replaced because he's the greatest ever and we should cry he's gone. I say replacing 1100 yrds and 6 tds isn't that hard.
They did lose the best offense player they had, on an offense that didn't blow anybody's doors down to begin with. and also I dont have the stats off hand but I would be willing to bet incoming coaches implementing whole new schemes, the first year is a little choppy...I see his point, I believe they will struggle this year as well.... the 4 total coming from him is just total disrespect, and thats how I would take it as a Dolphin player...
We lost a WR. Can people please just stop making it sound it like Marshall was EVERYTHING!!! He's not and his production will be replaced. Its like people are just saying it based on his name and not his production. We should be better at RB, TE, OL and QB, yet we lost one WR who got 1100 yrds and 6 TDS so we'll suck worse this year. The insanity of this fanbase blows my mind sometimes.
In losing Marshall you lost a guy whom made catches that all the other simply cannot make....the ability to get open that the others simply cannot do...he basically took Revis and manned him up MORE physical than anybody on that roster could even dream of doing....Revis DIDNT shut him down, Revis WILL shut down that corp now however... Fin it isnt insanity it is reality...Marshall made that passing game better than it should have been by his own personal ability that the others do not in anyway shape or form have.... Hartline, Bess, Gates, Ocho and so on isnt doing this or any of the other self-made Marshall plays he made... [video=youtube;zOIKzFy5aRQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOIKzFy5aRQ[/video] All I am saying is with this corp, get ready for the 5 yard slant pass, and check downs ad nauseum <------admit it you like my choice of words there D right?
So? Did it translate to an awesome offense? No. Did it translate to a winning record? No. In fact everything you're talking about added up to 1100 yrds and 6 tds which is worse than Chambers best year here. 30 players caught more TDs than Marshall last year. 30. That basically averages out to one player a team scored more points receiving than Marshall. A very real argument can be made that our best offensive player last year was Bush. You cannot talk about his catches in a vacuum. Look at what they did for the team? Nothing much in any tangible way. On top of all that, you guys seriously think our offense will be worse even though we upgraded EVERY OTHER POSITION, but went down talent wise at one, WR. Basically you're saying every other position is a punter and championships are won and lost at WR. Its beyond insane.
