It is being leaked around the internet that below will be the Penn State sanctions/penalties. We will not know if this is true until tomorrow morning but lets hope the leak is accurate so we can finally applaud the NCAA for getting one right.
For the record I like everything here except I think a 5 year death penalty is more appropriate but 1 year at the least is atleast something.
They have not, not Mark Emmert anyways. He has clearly said he is not ruling out anything. We have seen leaks that they will not give death penalty but Emmert has not ruled it out himself....trying to keep hope
They aren't as I have little faith in the NCAA when it comes to these matters. If the above leak was accurate i'd be content event though I feel a 5 year death sentence is much more appropriate with an institutional and cultural issue that they have there from the police to the students to the administration and everyone in between.
Sanctions…… --60 million dollar fine --Banned for Bowl games or postseason play for 4 years --scholarships reduced from 25 to 15 per year for 4 years (those who want to transfer from PSU now can without being held out on the new team) --Vacates ALL wins from 1998-2011 --Placed on 5 year probation… any player worth their salt is going to transfer....this team is going to be awful for a while..... Goodell is jealous .....If I am Detroit Lions fan right now, I am getting nervous...
LOL @ Internet....leaked info... ....missed it by that much. [video=youtube;oPwrodxghrw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPwrodxghrw[/video]
Bobby Bowden is sitting on his porch swing laughing his way back to the all time NCAA Division 1A wins record.....
1 Year revenue. So, they basically gave them the death penalty without giving them the whole year off.
I don't think this punishment was severe enough. I think the punishment needs to be worse than what a scandal would cost the school. It should have been everything they said PLUS the football program shuttered for at least 5 years. No team. No nothing. This has to be message to other schools that covering up a scandal is worse than admitting it.
The money part is nothing. There are so many alumni who want to give money more than ever now directly to the football program that theyll make it back quickly. My favorite part in all this is the vacating of wins. All those lifetime coaching records for paterno that he earned while sitting upstairs in the booth are out the window
1 or 2 until Urban gets exposed again and leaves because of health issues. But I doubt they get past Michigan much for those few years anyways. I doubt Penn State would of done much regardless.
As usual the NCAA comes up way short. What the hell does 60M and a few scholarships do when the kids can maintain scholarship as long as they keep grades up? Pedo St was given 250M by alumni since November and they're punished 60M. It's a joke.
A few scholarships? Since when is 80 scholarships over 4 years, while only being allowed to give 15 scholarships instead of 25 a year considers a few scholarships... If Miami and FSU can be mediocre for a decade because of bad coaching despite sitting atop the most fertile recruiting grounds in the nation, you can be sure that Penn State is DONE for the next decade at the very least.
Ya it's essentially nothing since kids can keep their scholarships as long as they meet academic standards. They can give the good athlete bad students the scholarships and the good student lesser athlete kids a shot on the team and maintain scholarship. It's a bogus penalty as all of this was. It was death penalty plus other sanctions or bust.....NCAA busted
65 scholarships a year, period. Those are massive losses. 20 scholarships a year, and can only sign 15 kids a year so if they have more than 15 kids leaving each year via graduation, draft, transfer, etc, they're ****ed.
They aren't ****ed. They received 250M from alumni since November alone. They will get kids wanting to go there to be the class that "proves the world wrong and returned Penn St to the top.". For me I don't care about that, this is such a systematic and cultural problem from the police force to the students to alumni to the institution itself the only acceptable penalty was multi year death penalty plus these other sanctions. They fell short
If you're trying to say they can just have kids walk on that don't count against the scholarship, you're being ridiculous. You realize who has to pay the tuition right? The kids. You realize what the most expensive public university in the nation is right? Pennsylvania State University. Kids aren't walking on to play at Penn State to not play Bowl games, and not even be competitive vs. most of the teams in their conference when they can go elsewhere without having to pay the tuition themselves.
Like I said, dumbest thing I've ever heard. I'm sure kids are lining up to pay their own tuition at the most expensive public university in the nation to do exactly that. Returning Penn State to the top when it's impossible to do so since they can't even play in Bowl games for the next 4 years. Their 15 scholarships will certainly be filled with nothing but blue chip players anxious to play for an uncompetitive team that can't play a bowl game. Disregard that they've already lost 2 of the best players in their class already.
I'm talking big picture, you're talking about a few kids. I'm talking that they will still have football thus making tens of millions a year, will still be on tv, and will still be the ok program they are. Pedo St is not an elite program anyways so it's not like they're going to fall far. This isn't Miami or USC rising to the top and falling. This is a 2nd or 3rd tier program and they'll be fine. The penalties was not enough
Of course they shouldn't even have a football program. But let's not sit here and act like this program isn't ****ed for the next decade at the very least. They might not even be in the Big 10 anymore a few years down the road after failing to remain competitive in the conference, and revenue going down and down.
It doesn't matter if they are competitive or not. Who cares? The point is they can still field a team, they can still sell tickets. It should be closed for 5 years or more.
I do not agree. I think the penalties are perfect. It hurts the school, but more importantly hurts the legacy.
Exactly this. It isn't the wrongdoings of a few and it's a cultural and institutional problem...its more than that. We had police covering up for Sandusky, campus security, janitors, coaches, administrators, etc. Not only that but they covered up for players running amuck, beating up other students amongst numerous other issues. We have people worshipping a statue. From top to bottom the community has shown they can't handle a football program. It's so bad that since the Sandusky story broke they've raised 250M from alumni since November. Penn St got off easy for decades of misbehavior.
Like I said, the fallout from covering up should be dramatically greater then if they didn't cover up it up and had to weather a scandal. 5 years or more of no football would do that.
While I agree with what you're saying for the most part, it's not fair for the kids and coaches who are completely innocent in this. Anyone even remotely responsible deserves the worst, but there are a ton of people who had no idea what was going on. I think the punishment is perfect.