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[Merged] David Garrard to undergo knee surgery

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Paul 13, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Well there goes the Matt Moore trade talks ;p
     
  2. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Garrard has had a compression sleeve on his leg the last couple of practices.
     
  3. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    It's your time, Tanny.
     
  4. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    All of that typing and spell checking, all of the research on trade partners..for naught!?!?

    Say it ain't so!

    :lol:
     
  5. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    Ben Volin now saying it wasn't from an recent injury but a long term wear and tear thing.
     
  6. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Let's hope. Just from watching him throw via Hard Knocks and some of the NFL.com video of the scrimmage; I'd rather let him take his lumps while learning on the field. I don't think Matt Moore's going to get Miami much, if at all, further than Ryan Tannehill would.
     
  7. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    Good job passing his physical, Miami doctors :pity:
     
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  8. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Which, if true, will pretty much end his career, no matter how severe it actually is. The knee gives up on you as an athlete, you're done.
     
  9. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHA

    You really are THAT guy.
     
  10. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Sounds like a Joey Porter type of knee cleanup deal.

    No matter, let the usual Dolfan whine fest begin!

    Dancers, Feasting! Strong Drink!

    :evil:
     
  11. seabass0795

    seabass0795 New Member

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    Then wouldn't a him playing in a game make him much more fragile than we originally thought? A simple wear and tear makes him injured "for a while" if he had been hit at the knees in any game he is out for the year. This could be a good thing then
     
  12. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    I blame that fine wife of his for this.




















    ...too soon? Over the line?
     
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  13. LandShark13

    LandShark13 New Member

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    I wonder if these are the same doctors that failed Brees while passing culpepper....
     
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  14. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Brees didn't fail while Culpepper didn't pass. The doctors in 2006 would not medically endorse Brees' throwing shoulder. That doesn't mean they failed him while they passed Culpepper. They were also concerned about Culpepper's knee. Nick Saban made the decision that he'd rather have a QB with a questionable knee than a questionable shoulder.
     
  15. Anonymous

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    Man, I feel bad for Garrard.
     
  16. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    That's a nice way of saying "100 out of 100 doctors would have told you to stay the heck away from Drew Brees in 2006" ...
     
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  17. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I'd much prefer to see the OL get straightened out before tossing the Franchise into the frying pan.

    All new terminology, new players, Pouncey kinda blows at line calls (or did) and the Qb has to call the protections, that is a recipe for a 2-14 season.
     
  18. LandShark13

    LandShark13 New Member

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    ^^ Lol this =)
     
  19. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I totally disagree with that. You make it sound like something they could have put off til the end of the season if need be, and just decided to do it now to clear the way to see more of the other 3 QBs. :no:
     
  20. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Makes me excited how much we will see of Tennehill tonight!
     
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  21. DrAstroZoom

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    This just stinks.
     
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  22. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    More or less, do they really need to see him play and practice more then he already has so far?

    He has been a starter in the NFL since 07, he had the full install and first team reps, and the point of him not having the cleanup now would be?
     
  23. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Are you seriously suggesting that they'd start a QB who has missed the vast majority of training camp and is coming off knee surgery when said QB is called David Garrard, who, incidentally, is also coming off a whole year of not playing football whatsoever?
     
  24. WhiteIbanez

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    I don't think this is as big of a deal as some are making it out to be since the story broke.
    I've been reading opinions where some have already considered him done. I think that just might be jumping the gun.
    Garrard is going to be the opening day starter I believe so why not clean it up now and give the other QB's an opportunity to get reps.
    Showcasing Matt Moore is a good idea before they begin to shop him which I think is going to happen real soon.
     
  25. padre31

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    Yep, this sounds like a routine clean out, but they HAD to see what he was about before having it done.

    Garrard set the bar, it is up to the other 3 Qb's to knock him off of the spot so to speak.

    Put it this way, why else wait? This is not an new injury, it sounds like cartilage floating in the knee, or needing some rough spots shaved. It also would make no sense for Garrard to have purely elective surgery as he knows how the league works, he missed a year, this is his one shot to get back onto a roster and the millions of additional dollars that means for him.
     
  26. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    I really wanted to see Garrard in preseason. This kinda sucks to me because we are hanging in question even more.
     
  27. bbqpitlover

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    Too all those who posted about Matt Moore being traded I said Moore will be our starter this year don't doubt it... Looks like Im getting this one right.
     
  28. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    Yup Matt Moore hit the lotto today.
     
  29. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    God, this team has some sort of drama fetish.
     
  30. RoninFin4

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    Given Tannehill's familiarity with the offense; I think that alone mitigates those concerns somewhat. At least, enough to the point that I'd be comfortable starting him. From all we've read and seen so far, I think it's pretty clear he's the most talented QB on the roster. I don't think the O-line can be as bad as it was last year, and I certainly think any coach is an upgrade over Dave DeGuglielmo - and I trust Tannehill's mobility more than Moore or Garrard; certainly more than Henne's.

    Let the kid learn I say. Has to start on the field at some point.
     
  31. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Garrard is done. Why didn't he get this done in Feb. like Richardson? No way he starts after missing entire preseason. I will lose all belief in this regime if they start him after making the fanbase feel like it's a genuine QB battle. Do I have to break out my "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills" pic?
     
  32. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Perhaps this will answer some on the reason Moore for trade bait should not be a hurry hurry up process.
     
  33. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    X2.
     
  34. padre31

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    at some point, keep in mind even Henne looked great stepping into Pennington's offensive scheme..at first.
     
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  35. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Henne was doing so well, he was simply too brittle. Still can't believe we let him go, would've been superb back-up if not starter. Not the case with Tannehill. No sense in making Ryan sit if Moore doesn't seperate appreciably.

    Pennington's scheme?
     
  36. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Yep, Penny's offense, knew the line calls, knew the checks, everyone was healthy at first

    Henne stepped into a turn key package and set Rookie records, once thing fell apart he did not have it in him to pull it back together and make it "Henne's offense".
     
  37. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I'm really not depressed about this at all. I like Moore more :shifty: and it's not worth getting upset about anyway as the Tannehill era will begin at some point THIS season. I'm actually looking forward to seeing Pat Devlin as well. I think he's a keeper. Perfect for this offense.
     
  38. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Just go all in on Tannehill...What's the worst that could happen? We pull him midseason, crushing his confidence, then let Moore finish up the season and screw us for draft positioning? lol
     
  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    According to whom, other than you?
     
  40. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Which rookie records did Henne set?
     

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