What I read between these lines is it's Matt Moore's job to lose, and Ryan will get only a small audition for now.
No camouflaging the performance on Friday . bbiggane profile bbiggane Philbin said second defense looked better than first Friday night. about 1 minute ago · reply · retweet · favorite OmarKelly profile OmarKelly "The defensive guys were disappointed, as was the staff," Joe Philbin said. Not good to see but good to hear it wasn't sluffed off by either the players or the staff.
I see it kind of that way . They are giving MM the best chance to take/retain the starting job but Tanneyhill will get some opportunity to WIN the starting job , not just if MM fails.
I think if Tanny shows well this week and at the game he gets the job. This organization has already deemed Matt Moore an inadequate option which is why they not only drafted a QB in the 1st round but signed another veteran with major starting experience as well. Moore is a break in case of emergency guy for this staff. They will likely exhaust all other options before going with him
I wonder if Tannehill is getting work AGAINST the 1's. He's worked with the 1's in the past, but it was against the 2nd team D...
Man this tannehill stuff is exciting! I hope he proves everyone wrong. Reach at 8!? Can't start day 1?! "eh **** you, watch me"
The reason there are WRs like Victor Cruz that come out of nowhere are because of QBs like Eli Manning. If Tannehill can be the franchise QB we all hope he is, he'll make WRs like Wallace look great!
Care to explain why? I'm not saying Victor Cruz isn't a talented WR. But Eli Manning makes him look better than he really is. Look how many mediocre WRs his brother Peyton made look like all-stars. Do you really think Green Bay has that many great WRs on their roster? Or is Aaron Rodgers just that good. There are very few WRs who make the QB look better. It's almost always the other way around.
I don't believe it is all as simple as that. Are you the clown person in your avatar? A clown scared me once when I was a kid, so I'm generally not a big fan of clowns, other than rodeo clowns...because those dudes put their *** on the line when doing their clown stuff.
No, that clown is just the clown who helped present 19-0 T-shirts to the poverty stricken children of Nicaragua when the Patsies lost to the Giants the first time. I'm generally a fan of the ladies in your sig.
ok i know this is wrong but when you quote the first series of questions about the CLOWN it really looks like he's asking if your a DOWN person.. and i completely thought that was the intention, because it kind of made sense, as offensive as it is haha
IIRC Jim Harbaugh essentially ran the 49ers into the ground with conditioning (obviously different than Philbin's pace of practice) early on in TC and the preseason and then backed off. I wonder if Philbin is onto something similar. Certainly worked for the 49ers.
I remember the whispers going around in Marino's first camp like this ... vets were wondering under their breath how long it'd be before he took over. They knew he was the real deal after several practices. Lets hope Ryan turns out to be our next real deal
So then why did Jordy Nelson have his best performance of the year (162 yards & 3 TDs) with Matt Flynn? According to your logic, either: A. Jordy shouldn't have had such a big game with Flynn. ....or B. Flynn is a better QB than Rodgers.
I see what your saying but to put Eli in the same class as his brother and Rodgers is a little ridiculous. Eli has always had above average to solid receivers to work with.
I think that has to do with the system and where any receiver can be the number one guy on any given day.
Amen. Though i'd take it a step further and add in system and QB generally make the WR. There are exceptions.
That's certainly possible..... but if it were solely the case, Green Bay wouldn't be spending all those 2nd rounders on receivers. They obviously feel the WR helps make the QB as much as the QB makes the receiver. It's a symbiotic relationship.
Yeah that's true both complement each other and that's why we see one of the best offenses in the NFL.
True, but think of it like this: - Take Rodgers and put him on our team right now over Moore....we are in the playoffs. OR - Take Nelson and put him on our team right now for Hartline...we aren't going to be a dramatically better.
Are you saying you're in disbelief that a high 2nd round pick has actually blossomed into a stud? <Nelson> ..... or ditto regarding Jennings who was talented enough as a small school player to warrant a rare mid 2nd round selection? Did Peyton Manning make 1st rounders Harrison, Wayne, and Clark into good players?.... or was it mutual? I saw what Manning did when his starters were injured in 2010 and it wasn't entirely pretty. Further added: If the QB makes the receiver then why would Indy use 3 first rounders on WR & TE after Manning emerged as a stud? Wouldn't that be overkill according to what you and Monstblitz are saying? Basically, it's like you're saying every other position in football can have players who are more talented than others and capable of consistently winning matchups vs their opponent except for receivers. That's really silly. Do you believe a DE is just a DE?...... a DT just a DT?...... a LB just a LB?..... a CB just a CB?..... a RB just a RB?...... an OT just an OT?..... a guard just a guard?..... a center just as center? If the QB made the receiver, we'd see a LOT more late round and undrafted WRs performing better than highly drafted ones.
Great to hear! I wish I knew how he did. If the highlights were just a couple of check downs... that isn't so great lol.
I agree with that, but IMO that's more b/c Rodgers interacts with more players as a whole where as Nelson is isolated to just the QB. If you're saying a franchise QB is more important than a franchise WR, then I'd agree 1000%. If you're saying a franchise QB gets the most out of his WRs, whatever that max potential might be, then I'd also have to agree. But I think it's a slight to say great receivers don't get the most out of QBs, including franchise QBs, as well. I don't think a franchise QB turns a WR into something he isn't. IMO the receiver has to have the underlying potential there for the QB to tap it, and the more potential the receivers possess, the more they'll allow his QB to produce. They still have to get open, understand coverage, catch the ball, make plays after the catch, etc. I certainly hope you're not saying that Aaron Rodgers would either turn Hartline into a physical beast like Jordy Nelson or all of a sudden give Brian the ability to dominate defensive backs the way Nelson does. Rodgers can make a lot of throws b/c of what Nelson can do with the ball in the air, and he can make a lot throws to Jennings b/c of the confidence Jennings instills b/c of his route running, hands, speed, and reliability. Rodgers wouldn't have the matchups to exploit if Nelson & Jennings (and Driver) weren't good enough to effectively move around the field and play all 3 receiver positions. Just saying, I don't think it's coincidence that most HOF QBs had outstanding receiver corps to work with, often HOFers to boot.
I think this will be the last week of the double reps thing and that should slow things down quite a bit. There's still 28 days before the 1st game. As far as the Johnson thing goes, Jay Glazer reports it's over. http://tmi.me/vfgp0
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...-be-surprised-if-tannehill-starts-friday.html " Both players took first-team snaps in practice today. I was not there. But The Miami Herald's Adam Beasley tracked the practice and reports Tannehill had the better day" " Tannehill got to work with the first team offense against the first team defense before the weather took a turn for the worst and looked sharp again." Couple opinions on today's competition.
My read is the opposite. It seems to me that they realize that Moore isn't going to be the guy and they will give it enough time so that either Garrard gets back or RT convinces them he's ready.
For me, it would be bringing in Garrard and Tannehill. It would also be letting Tannehill get first team reps first practice after preseason game #1. Then it would be the talk and (if it happens0 of Tanny getting starter reps in game #2.
