NFL.com "New Dolphins coach Joe Philbin emerges as the big winner..."

Forgot about Chad the player for a second.. But after reviewing the first week of TC and seeing what Philbin had to see, do you really see a personality like Chad surviving here under new leadership that is looking to assert authority, especially during an obvious rebuilding period?

 

Not more than a year.

 

He didn't? Well two can play at that game. I wonder how Dansby felt hearing from the press that Philbin called him out? Probably as good as Philbin felt when Dansby called out his move to dump Chad. Point made. Let's see what happens the next time Dansby publicly questions a move his rookie HC makes.

 

I think there's at least a 50% chance he has not heard about it period. Point not made.

 

Perhaps I'm confused here.

You said, "According to Dansby, he didn't ".. To me that means that Dansby heard it from someone else.

And do you think that during this era, nobody in the press, twitter or his teammates made any mention of what Philbin said? I know your are more connected to the ins and outs of a typical football organization, but I'd have a hard time believing that Dansby is completely oblivious to what's being said about him.

Either way this doesn't need to turn in to a nonstop discussion, I'm glad Chad is gone and I'm glad that Philbin handled it correctly and set the correct tone.

At the end of the day we need to find positive things about this team. The last thing we need is another clueless coach.. I don't think this franchise could survive another Cam Cameron episode.

 

According to Dansby, when Joe Philbin and he were seen speaking on the sidelines during practice, it was about "getting better, getting the position better as players and as people". He was specifically asked whether Philbin talked to him about the radio interview and Dansby said no. He was specifically asked if anyone on the Dolphins told him not to say anymore about it and he said no.

No. Players aren't like us fanboys constantly on MiamiDolphins.com listening to press conferences. They work so hard and so long at football that when they leave, they have other things they're doing. And no I very much doubt someone is coming up to Karlos and saying "Yo dog, you should see what Philbin just said about you. He said (white voice) 'In my personal opinion that kind of thing should be kept in-house'. Can you belee dat sh-t?"

I'm concerned over whether Philbin really handled it the best he could.

 

Well if he failed at this, then we have some legitimate concerns regarding his leadership. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise..

I do remember a lot of "deer in the headlights" comments about Cameron that I don't see yet about Philbin. What I've seen so far is a man of character that will eventually demand respect. Time will tell. Should make for some serious discussion this season, assuming we aren't dealing with people that expect a 12-4 season out of this team.

 

Which means? You believe Dansby lied?

Doing something not as well as could be doesn't automatically make someone a Cam Cameron. I think he's already shown he's not a Cam Cameron.

 

I'm not sure that you should take Dansby at his word that no one has said anything about it. Philbin may have talked to him about it and Dansby might just say no because he doesn't want to make it an issue, and wants to keep things in house. I think it's kind of assuming to make judgements about Philbin based on Dansby's response. You really think Philbin would address a problem to the media and not to the player? I think that is pretty shallow thinking.

 

Forget about Dansby. That Coach Philbin made the right decision and communicated it the right way to the team.

 

Yeah but where does the rubber meet the road on that? Philbin tells the press he thinks that kind of thing should be kept in-house, Dansby is asked if Philbin talked to him about it and he says no. Do you think Dansby was lying? Or do you think Philbin approached Dansby about it at some later point in time?

 

We'll find out in Hard Knocks episode 3.

 

It's 'assuming' to make assumptions that Philbin didn't do something based on Dansby's saying he didn't do it...yet it's NOT 'assuming' to just casually assume that Karlos Dansby is a bold-faced liar? To each their own.

 

IMO Dansby should just shut his trap. He has no input on who gets cuts, or who gets signed. He should focus on playing well, and making those around him play well. Leave the coaching decisions up to the coaches.
If you want the team to have your back, then be an outstanding person on and off the field, thats not so hard is it?

Also, we fans need to quit it with the over-analyzing of every single minutiae that comes from the Dolphins. "he said this" "Coach said that" "therefore that means this". ENough, we are not Skip Bayless.

 

You are the one making and posting judgements on Philbin, I am questioning those judgements and not making assumptions, so no I don't think that I am being more assuming. I'm saying that in my opinion, you shouldn't just assume that Dansby is being completely honest. I wouldn't even call it a lie if he's not telling the truth. You don't tell the media everything. You don't find it to be within the realm of possibility that after Philbin may have told Dansby that some things need to stay in house and not be talked about to the media, that Dansby would say that it wasn't ever brought up to make it appear that that it was a non-issue and not talk to the media about it so that it wouldn't become a bigger story? To me that seems completely logical and possible, does it not to you?

To me, seeing what I've seen out of Philbin, it seems more likely than not. I don't think he's stupid enough to tell the media that a player did something wrong and not tell that player. You have to be pretty unaware to do that, and I don't see Philbin not talking to a critical and vocal defensive leader about how he wants his team to behave.

 

Especially when that very same player came out and called Philbin's move a distraction.

Who does it distract other than players on the team that had Chad's back, even though he spent less than a month practicing with them ?

Dansby is the one that seems to have his priorities wrong, and frankly, I don't care what he thinks as long as he is in line with the coaching staff and the teams objectives. If he isn't so LONG. It's not like we are in the hunt for a playoff spot or homefield advantage this year.

 

Wasn't Dansby asked about a specific conversation with Philbin, the one where "his arms were crossed"? And that this incident with Chad wasn't discussed there. Isn't it possible, that Philbin or even position assistants told all the players in the locker room or in meetings to keep family business private?