That was bizarre. I only saw the one angle but it looked to me like Smith did everything Vontae did and more. I was already mad about the illegal man down field on the screen to Williams from the first series, and I damn near thew the remote through my flat screen on the PI call. Dear NFL, please get the real refs in here...
You're right. Soliai was our best pass rusher, with one pressure. And Newton hit Olsen for about 25 yards on that one play lol.
Another great read from Tannehill comes in at around 14:20 of the 2nd quarter. It look like he was going to Wallace on a quick slant, the DE held and Tannehill recognized it and held onto the ball. Things like that make me feel real good. On the roll out he missed Wallace, had he connected in stride, that's a decent to huge gain depending on if Wallace gets away from the CB. Still, nice recognition by Tannehill. EDIT: Noticed CK already mentioned this in his original post. It really was a great read.
Just watched this again, and you're right. He's in perfect position to meet Stewart in mid air. In fact, had he went in Stewart had 1 friggin hand on the ball the same hand Wilson *COULD* have collided with. I don't know wtf he was thinking, but pee pee dance seems about right. Screen cap: Pee Pee Dance
As I have been saying , it is called rebuilding. No need to deny it imo , hopefully it isn't one step forward , one sideways and two back as it has been for so so long.
belief and Ireland in the same sentence? Lol and no, Martin needs to be benched immediately, why risk putting him out there even one more game he could get Tannehill seriously injured.
Deepest WR class in ****ing years and you take a TE and a ****ty LT convert. BEHOLD THE INFALLIBLE GENIUS OF THE PARCELLS SCHOOL OF DRAFTING.
It didn't have to be. Problem appears to me that either the players are exhausted, or they are clueless as to the schemes. The real problem is they are not playing very inspired football atm, THAT is what really troubles me.
I'd trade a first and third for Mike Wallace then pay Burress some money right about now. Wallace had a first round tender on him no matter what Pittsburgh says, he's available.
If Wallace is dubbed "ankle weights", Guyton should be dubbed legless. Dude was 2 steps behind on many plays last night. I didn't see you mention anything about R. Jones. I saw many plays where he was in the area, just didn't see many times he made the play. Also, he seems pretty terrible at shedding blocks. Maybe it was just this game, but it seemed anytime he was locked on, he wasn't getting out of it. Thoughts?
Disagree, there is talent on the roster, even on offense, the problem imo is the young guys are playing like they know they won't be cut and the Vets aren't playing scared so to speak.
This team always seems like its rebuilding. When is it going to end? We have maybe 4 or 5 guys that would start on other teams. Why is that? Who is responsible for that?
I'd wait another week or 2 to see if Martin, or anyone for that matter, can at least provide the minimal protection it would take to utilize someone like Wallace.
It was nice to see our QB climb in the pocket consistently. Henne acted like he was standing in quick sand at the top of his drop. And Moore wasn't much better. If our oline is going to be crap that will help mitigate the damage at least a little bit. I'll admit that I saw Tannehill's numbers before the game was aired and was worried. But after watching it I came away with similar thoughts to those of CK. It wasn't great. But that wasn't a bad 11-23.
CK- fantastic write up. Very very informative and entertaining. I really appreciate you sharing these with the board. I personally would bench Martin the next game. See if he can hold his own against the 2's, and evaluate him from there. He was just god awful last night. The only rookie besides Tannehill that impressed me last night was Cunningham. That dude made a nice play to put the ball in the endzone in the 4th quarter, great play. It also looks like Thigpen will be the full time returner this year.
Disagree, there is enough talent on the roster to win the division. Problem is, where our weaknesses are, RT will get the offense killed, no passrush will kill the secondary RT is easy enough to solve, JMart has to compete for the job now, passrush will be solved when Wake comes back.
Did you notice when Rishard Matthews and later Quinten Lawrence tackled Joe Adams, how they didn't just get him on the ground, they tackled him with some attitude? Matthews' WWF body slam on Adams was especially impressive.
Not much else to say after that first Post..Thanks for that read Ck, and I know you watched that first half and certain plays multiple times to come to those conclusions, personally, I'm excited that you saw what you did when it comes to Tannehil, there were some parts of the game I didn't see yet so I won't comment yet, but your opinion is one of the best we can ask for in the media..
It was all on Smith IMO. First he was holding Davis, didn't let up after the whistle, and was the one who turned it into a wrestling match. Somehow he got Davis' helmet off, and still the PF is called on Davis.
Ireland has trouble finding playmakers. That is his mo right now. If I am Jeff I can't be feeling too good about the draft other than Tannehill. It is becoming obvious that Martin's weightlifting numbers clearly reflect that he has to spend some serious time in the weight room. The transition to the 4-3 is obviously a bigger one they we all realized. At receiver you can go in two directions. You can attempt to trade for a one if you want to win this year, but Philbin appears to be into developing his own talent. So this year you have to put kids like Hogan Matthews and Fuller out there and let them grow up. Any of you really have illusions about winning this year after watching these two games? I know I know they are preseason. But this is not just a reflection of preseason. This team has some serious issues going into the year. NO depth at key spots on defense, no playmakers other than Bush, Fasano and maybe Bess. And that is a fundamental issue. I think I go young and grow up as a team with my young qb. There are risks with that. There are certainingly valleys to be felt. This team may perform much worse than last year. There could be some real benefit from going through a tough learning year, both from a future development standpoint and a front office stand point (maybe changes in who makes personnel decision). Ireland talks about looking for acorns and churning the roster. I think he will have to look for acorns on his own roster this year. There is no way he can fix the ills of this team at cutdown time.
Exactly. What was Davis to do? Drop to the ground and curl up into the fetal position and beg for mercy from big bad Steve Smith?
Well, just for last night, Rishard Matthews also played very well, and despite the questionable roughing the passer penalty, Josh Kaddu made a few nice plays.
I thought he did. He could be a good weapon as a slot receiver in 3 or 4 wide formations. He caught the ball very well.
It certainly IS questionable. Getting involved in what? Smith engaged Vontae and tried to toss Vontae around. You'd rather Vontae jump on the ground in a fetal position before Steve Smith threw him there?
Jones reaction to Hartsock on that catch and roll down near the goal line when the latter nearly scored was appalling. Jones acted like he was scared to touch him down. Since Hartsock went down on his own, Jones could have come in there with some force and stopped him from rolling another yard or two closer to the goal line.
That was Matthews. He made at least two other really nice catches as well. Also covered punts like a mad man.
you are absolutely right, and I hope he continues to make plays (the previous games I think he touched the ball only on return, but he did quite good) honestly, of the WR group, I root for him (I remember a video posted by CK, after the draft, that was impressive, he seems good with the ball in his hands), Hogan (he seems to get separation, have decent hands and he is not slow, yesterday he played also special teams, maybe it is a good sign for him) and Clay, for his big play potential; I don't like so much Wallace and especially Moore: maybe I remember wrong, but I think he dropped a couple of easy passes (easy because he was able to free himself from coverage, tbh) during the last season, when he had his opportunities; about Kaddu, I wasn't focusing, how they used him, as aLB or just at rushing the QB?
He was playing LB. On the roughing call, which they never replayed on the Carolina feed, it looked like he blitzed coming between the LT and LG like he was shot out of a cannon. He did hit the QB after the ball was thrown and took at least one step before doing so, but as fast as he was coming it appeared to me it would have been hard to just stop and not lay the hit. He made some nice backside pursuit tackles in the run game for little or no gain coming from OLB. I seem to recall 2, but need to review the game again to be sure.
He should imo, I saw speed without any hesitation on kickoffs, the two most important ingredients, he doesn't slow down as he approaches traffic, he flashed to me in a very positive way as a returner..he's got it Pod..showed good hands on punt return..he should be our guy.
You are absolutely right about that. I hope Matthews gets a real chance to make the roster and last night is the beginning stages of that.
Hope so, Atlanta had a stable of 3-4 good running backs when Ryan was developing I suspect he could be Westbrook like for us he has the quicks.
