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Stallworth being brought in today for a workout...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CANEPHINS, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Then I assume you won't be signing anyone.
     
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  2. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I have this feeling that Matthews will not make the 53 when he should. And if that is at the expense of a street free agent like Stallworth, or keeping Naanee, that is a classic reason this franchise is where it is. Matthews may not amount to anything, but he showed me some skills this preseason.
     
  3. Beelzebob

    Beelzebob New Member

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    At this point I think John Stallworth could make this team. :pity:
     
  4. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I don't think you know what "50/50 crapshoot" means if you think how good a gm is has bearing on it.
     
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  5. Die_Nasty

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  6. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. I thought I remember him being barely over.

    My point still remains. That could of happen to anyone while driving to work that morning. Any sober person. Donte just happened to have some drinks prior to someone walking in front of his car.
     
  7. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Um, I'm not in favor of signing him because he sucks, not because of his past....but the "rationale" you just used in that post is....bizarre.
     
  8. VManis

    VManis Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  9. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how its bizarre. I do agree through, I don't want Stallworth because I don't think hes very good.
     
  10. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    .126 for a person around 220 lbs. (that's what Stallworth is currently listed at) is roughly 7 or 8 drinks, and this was after he'd been at the club for 6 hours (the accident happened at around 7 AM), so it'd be pretty tough for this to happen while you were sober. A sober person would've slowed down or even stopped if they saw someone about to cross the street. Stallworth never even slowed down, a clear sign that the intoxication played a role.

    30 days in jail was a joke.
     
  11. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    :lol: it's an old movie reference:

    [video=youtube;FEFfISdA8LQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEFfISdA8LQ[/video]
     
  12. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Its bizarre because you're making the argument he could have done the same thing whether he was drinking or not. That's like saying you can't fault a guy for running through a gun range because he could get shot walking down the street one day.
     
  13. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Very good question, and I'm one of the people who are not in a position to answer. All I can say is that Wallace is going to cost whoever signs him long term 7-10 million per season and a premium draft pick or two so I can understand why even a desperate GM like Ireland would balk at making a move.

    IMO the best route is to do what Ireland is doing now, waiting for the roster cuts and hoping something of value falls in his lap. Because our group is so effin bad there will be better options on the waiver wire, it'll just come down to whether or not Ireland/Philbin feel comfortable settling for whatever is available or if they want to spend picks to trade for a guy. Either way, Ireland's bargaining position should be better come Friday night. If I'm a WR who was just cut I'm taking one look at our depth chart and calling my agent to tell him to make it happen with Miami. If some decent guys hit the wire, perhaps Ireland can leverage that into getting a better deal on a trade for a guy who wasn't cut.
     
  14. GMJohnson

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    I agree. But he doesn't have to be very good, just better than what we have. Nannee and Moore are our top 2 outside guys and neither one could start for Clemson this which reminds me....


    I miss ToddPhins.
     
  15. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I say bring in everyone who is willing and lets see what rises to the top.
     
  16. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's causation in Florida. Even if you are impaired it still has to be shown you caused the accident. An easy defense is what's a guy doing jaywalking in a 40mph zone?

    It is crazy that he blew those numbers at 7am. But it still has to be shown it was his impairment that caused the accident.

    Hence the deal.
     
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  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    We are talking about a highway.
     
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  18. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    To think, we could have had Braylon.
     
  19. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    No its not. Im not sure how your making those comparisons. Again, the guy walked out in front of his car, on a high way, at 7 am. What does him being drunk have to do with that. Had Stallworth been sober he would of still hit the guy.
     
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  20. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    If I had a choice between giving up a 3rd for Jones vs a 2nd for Jennings, I'd do the latter. But put yourself in the Packers shoes. You just missed the SB last year primarily due to your defense. Would you rather have a draft pick or a defensive player? How does that 2013 pick help you now? I reckon they'd want the player but I'm not sure we can do player for player to keep it equal... might have to throw in a pick as well. They are hurting at linebacker. Rework Dansby's contract then trade him plus a 4th for Jennings.
     
  21. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Being drunk impairs your judgement and reaction time. This is not rocket science. There's a reason driving drunk is against the law.
     
  22. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    And? I never said it was OK for him to be driving while over the limit. I simply said had he been sober he would of still hit the guy.
     
  23. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    So does playing QB with receivers that suck ***. Get over it.
     
  24. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Get over what?
     
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  25. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Defensive driving. You assume the worst. Besides, Stallworth admitted he saw the guy but never slowed down.

    Also, I've driven where this accident took place. Not uncommon for people to cross the road there.
     
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  26. alen1

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    Regarding Mike Wallace, the investment is not worth it IMO. Not the money nor what's likely to be multiple draft picks or a significantly high one.
     
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  27. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Can you expand?
     
  28. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I don't rate him as highly as others do because of his lack of route running skills. I don't view him as the best receiver on his team.
     
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  29. Jaj

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    What does him not being the best WR on his team have anything to do with his worth to a team? If you're talking about him being the recipient of lighter coverages, it's the other way around with Wallace. The way he threatens safeties over the top is beneficial for Brown.
     
  30. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well, he may not be a great route runner, and I can't really comment on that as I don't study it that closely, but the man can certainly take the cover off a defense and has to be accounted for on every play.

    That kind of skill is pretty valuable IMO. Not that any of this matters as he's highly unilkey to be traded
     
  31. alen1

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    I'm aware. I'm not saying he is the recipient of soft coverages. The best WR on his team comment was a throw in. The former is the reason.

    I think you can find that.
     
  32. alen1

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    Danny Coale was just cut. If healthy, work him out.
     
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  33. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Who is that?
     
  34. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I do agree that he's sort of a one-trick pony. But that one trick is so deadly, and teams rarely can stop it.
     
  35. alen1

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    Cowboys 5th round pick. Formerly of Virginia Tech. Good hands, quality route runner, can play ST's. Has had issues with injury through training camp, so he fell behind.
     
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  36. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I think Bruce Arians did quite a good job of getting him in that position to make plays.
     
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  37. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Compared to our WRs not named Bess, Hartline, and potentially Matthews though, he is All Pro.
     
  38. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I miss the little fella too, but do not worry, he is in a far happier place these days. :yes:
     
  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I think you mean expound, rather than expand. It is a common mistake though, so do not despair. :shifty:
     
  40. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Ok, I'm not one to usually jump over lots of players cut, but Danny Coale was cut by Dallas. He'd be better than a lot of what we have. He was super reliable at VT whenever I watched them. Still, even if he were only a back-up or another slot-guy he could be valuable to us.
     
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