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16.5 Million in Dead Cap Space

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Vinny Fins, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    YES.

    We finally are among the league leaders in a stat.
     
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  2. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Here's to 2013 !!!! :beer:
     
  3. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Cap Space, Dead is our highest paid player.
     
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  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    IRISH says not so fast...

     
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  5. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Do have a listing of names who make up this DEAD CAP?
     
  6. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    From http://nyjetscap.com/Dolphins/dolphins2012.php



    Marshall, Brandon WR $5,550,000
    Carey, Vernon OL $4,800,000
    Bell, Yeremiah S $1,850,000
    Davis, Vontae CB $1,111,250
    Dobbins, Tim LB $600,000
    Edds, A.J. LB $238,500
    Culver, Tyrone S $125,000
    Roth, Matt LB $123,500
    Gates, Edmond WR $113,287
    Cook, Ryan OL $112,500
    Johnson, Tyrell S $65,000
    Guyton, Gary LB $65,000
    Kaddu, Josh LB $46,685
    Cunningham, BJ WR $26,550
    Kearse, Frank DT $23,576
    Barker, Will OL $15,000
    Pruitt, Julius WR $15,000
    Feinga, Leimoni OL $15,000
    Wade, Jonathan CB $12,500
    Restelli, Mark LB $6,667
    Devlin, Patrick QB $4,000
    Jones, D.J. OL $3,667
    Wallace, Roberto WR $3,334
    Agnew, Vince CB $2,667
    Grisby, Nic RB $2,667
    Perez, Jose CB $2,667
    Freeny, Jonathan LB $2,667
    Westerman, Jamaal LB $2,500
    Baker, Ryan DE $2,500
    Brackett, Brett TE $2,334
    Chisolm, Garrett OL $2,000
    Jones, Johnny DT $1,667
    Lyons, Shelly LB $1,500
    Smith, Jacquies DE $1,500
    Scott, Kevyn CB $1,500
    Root, Jarrell DE $1,500
    McDonald, Andrew T $1,500
    Hughes, Trenton CB $1,500
    Fuller, Jeff WR $1,500
    Derek, Dennis G $1,500
    Alecxih, Chas DT $1,500
    Collins, Cameron LB $1,500
    Waldron, Dustin T $1,500
    Spears, Quinton LB $1,000
    Brown, Les TE $833
    Livas, Phillip WR $667

    Add another 1 MILLION for David Garrard and our total is:

    $16,359,685
     
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  7. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    If I were good at Photoshop, I'd somehow turn this into something some may find amusing.

    [​IMG]

    Alas, I am not.
     
  8. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    That lists Pat Devlin. He hasn't been cut has he?
     
  9. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Practice Squad =/= 53 Man Roster Spot = Dead Cap Space
     
  10. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    extension for Ireland!!!!!!!!
     
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  11. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    But don't forget about those "coupla picks". Irish will turn those into FUTURE DEAD CAP SPACE!
     
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  12. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

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  13. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    How do you know we are the league leaders in that?
     
  14. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    5.5M for Marshall and 2-3rd's....the guy is going to have 1400 yards and 10+tds....:pity:

    With friends like these it isn't to hard to figure out why they are in the predicament...
     
  15. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Serious question, does anyone know where that stands relative to the rest of the league? It would appear the Pats have a bigger number.
     
  16. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't know about the whole league, but I know the Colts have like 35 million in dead space.

    You can check on Spotrac.com. I'm not sure how accurate they are, though.
     
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  17. jboogie

    jboogie The sky is NOT falling!

    This really makes me question the Y. Bell move, what was the urgency to dump even if we had to carry that much cash???
     
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  18. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I sure hope whomever labeled us as having the most in the league knows where we stand relative to the rest of the league. Surely that would be a logical expectation.
     
  19. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    That would make sense. The Colts just had a new GM take over. You expect a lot of turnover in that situation.
     
  20. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    so since he's the number 3 now?
     
  21. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Dead cap is an indictment on previous decision making. It's not surprising for a team like the Colts to have a lot of dead cap because they don't particularly mind the inevitable criticism of previous personnel decisions that comes with that. Ryan Grigson can just say I wasn't here yet and I can't speak to what the Polians did before I got here.

    Teams like the Patriots and Dolphins that have continuity in their personnel departments, that's usually not a great sign.
     
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  22. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Another dumb statement. If you're gonna blame Ireland for all of that then perhaps you should blame him for John Beck, too, and every other failed player brought in when Ireland wasn't here.

    Ireland didn't draft Vernon Carey, and Ireland didn't force Carey to become a useless slob. That $4.8M is on Carey. In the end it saved us future cap space IIRC.
    Ireland didn't force Marshall to become a distraction & hinderance to the team. That $5.6M is on Marshall; however, that $5.6M dead space this year helps us have the appealing $40.0M in space next year.
    The $1.8M hit from Bell allows us to have more space next year.
    Ireland didn't force Vontae to give less than 100% to the team. If he worked as hard as he was being paid to work he'd still be here and there'd be no $1.1M cap hit. Vontae put himself into the position to get traded.
     
  23. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    I didn't know Jeff Ireland's mom posted here. Nice to meet you, Ma'am. I think your son is a crappy GM.
     
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  24. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    If you want to blame Ireland for each time you stub your toe or run over a nail then that's your prerogative. I'm a little more realistic than that.
     
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  25. Ducken

    Ducken Luxury Box Luxury Box

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    Uncalled for, just because his view is different then yours is no need to get snippy. IMHO he has had some failures for sure and he has had some HR too. The water is very muddy on his 1st few years here and I am just going to base my opinion on him on the past two drafts and forward. Plus you have to factor in a whole new O and D and the fact some players just do not fit very well with the change, so there has to be some consideration to that. It is MY belief he will do just fine if given a chance and in a few years there will be threads about how lucky we he was retained and not let go like the fans wanted. JMHO
     
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  26. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Does this figure really mean anything at all relative to the team on the field this year ?? Not really. If you don't like Irish, that's fine, but this doesn't really mean anything to any of us relative to the product on the field. If we go 13-3 will anyone really care ?? Likewise will it make a difference if we are 3-13 ?? I'll still be just as miserable, in that case, as if we had NO dead cap money....
     
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  27. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    From what I saw according to Spotrac, we are 4th in Dead Money. List goes Indianapolis, Oakland, New England, Miami and Houston.
     
  28. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Teams with over $10M in dead cap money –


    Colts 37.9
    Oakland 21.7
    New England 17.9
    Dolphins 16.6
    Houston
    16.3
    Dallas 12.6
    Buffalo 11.6
    Baltimore 10.2

    There are 5-6 other teams just below $10M.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/
     
  29. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    BTW, CK mentioned that in a new regime there is usually excess dead money, and that makes sense. Irish is in the middle of supplying talent for a new regime as well... Will that make me happier if we are 3-13.....??
     
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  30. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    If this isn't indictment of Jeff Ireland, I don't what is.

    Ireland defenders, the floor is yours.......
     
  31. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Irish doesnt get a pass on having to cut the fat off the old regime... AS HE WAS THE OLD REGIME.
     
  32. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Aren't we 16.5 million in Dead Space?
     
  33. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Please, by all means the floor is yours to indict. I'll be glad to break down the benefits of cutting guys like Vernon Carey as opposed to restructuring their contracts if I see a value argument to counter.
     
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  34. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're trolling...HARD.

    Serious question: Has Jeff Ireland made a single mistake as GM?
     
  35. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Irish is in the process of overhauling his OWN roster. I don't think he gets store credit for that.
     
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  36. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Fixed. I didn't add Garrard.
     
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  37. Ducken

    Ducken Luxury Box Luxury Box

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    Why? When it is a completely different offense and defense that has been implemented by a NEW HC and staff?
     
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  38. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The urgency was that Bell isn't very good at football anymore.
     
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  39. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Didn't fit the system either.
     
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  40. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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