The Anti-Jeff Ireland Thread

.... and Washington payed Garcon a LOT of money. $42.5 million. That's an absurd amount. Any GM should be fired on the spot for outbidding Washington on him.

 

yes.... you've done such. Just b/c it wasn't in this thread doesn't make a difference. Doing so in the past month is what makes your opening post a rant.

 

He intends that as an insult.

 

You're going to overpay in free agency. It's the name of the game.

Is Garcon helping Washington and specifically RGIII this year? Yes.

You brought up the cap room we have next year. What do you think is going to happen with it? It's going to be spent on free agents, most of whom will be overpaid, but that doesn;t mean they won't contribute and help you win games.

 

I just don't have any idea of what politics has to do with any of this. If you've got to invoke political boogeymen in a football thread, you're not doing a good job of making your point.

 

How do you come to that conclusion when up until that point we were shutting down their running game, the score was tied 3-3, and Houston had 108 yards compared to our 104?

 

If we have another losing season, he should be fired.

And the baseline is the one his mentor Parcells applied to Randy Mueller.

Two losing seasons in a row. He got zero slack for a change in philosophies between Saban and Cameron.

 

For that much money I'd much rather wait a year and have a good chance to use it on Greg Jennings.

 

Because the manner in which they made their plays compared with the manner in which we made our plays made it appear that the Texans were earning their success more than the Dolphins, Todd.

 

Well ok, but you're going to overpay him too, espescially considering he'll be 30.

And you're assuming he will actually be available, which I suppose is liekly but not a guarantee

 

You're absolutely correct, but again, it's his form of an insult. Or maybe worse: he once wished that Saxby Chambliss have a run in with a combine harvester. So that gives you a view of the mentality there.

There's definitely not a lot of point-making, just a lot of "you're so obviously wrong" type content.

 

we did bend but didn't break, timely sacks and key stops kept us in the game...given the rap we had as a football team that was a pretty good effort on the road, against a houston team that is picked to go to the super bowl...the miscues..well thats another story, even the TD's they scored, not many teams stop arian foster this close at the goal line and that TD to Johnson was a perfect pass with good coverage

 

Rant or not, if all the Ireland garbage stays here I'll be ecstatic with this thread even if this is my only post in here. Sick of every thread seemingly turning into an Ireland *****fest (and subsequent attempts to counter). Of course hopefully some of that passes now that we have actual games to talk about too.

 

I can't wait till that ****ing idiot is gone. that and Tannehill's development, which will surely be severely hindered by the complete bums surrounding him, are the only things im looking forward to this year when it comes to our team.

 

Christmas Vacation reference?

 

To which post are you referring? I'd say that covers about 95% of them.

 

Listen I think just from a mile high standpoint, you take a look at a few things that happened this week, and it's obvious Jeff Ireland's case to keep his job just took a hit.

1. The precious quarterback everyone is so antsy about was stifled by a lack of weapons around him
2. The offense was one of only two teams this week not to score an offensive touchdown
3. The re-tooled secondary, now with 100% less Vontae Davis, allowed Matt Schaub a 102.4 passer rating
4. Tony Sparano's offense scored 34 points with Mark Sanchez at the helm, even subtracting the punt and interception return TDs

Those things are damning for Jeff Ireland, every one of them.

And yes, every touchdown Tony Sparano's offense in New York scores is one more step toward Ireland's removal. That's a simple fact. Steve Ross became convinced the problem was coaching, not personnel. The coach goes to New York and even though they have a QB situation everyone loves to laugh at, they're scoring 34 points in a game? Ouch. Sorry, but that's an ouch if you're Jeff Ireland.

 

Can't it be both?

 

what is a time frame to get a new GM to still have enough time to get ready for the draft and FA ? every GM that would be coming here would have of course scouted the college and FA situation, but changing it to the player of need for this team is this something that needs time or can it be done lets say after the season ?

 

i still hope its just buffalo that sucks pretty bad..we´ll see how they do at pittsburgh on sunday

 

I haven't gone through every potential playmaker that we missed out on in the draft over the past 5 years (you, among others are better at tracking that than I am) but I don't think there's any way to look at who was drafted on offense and think that Ireland is doing a better job versus the rest of the league.

 

I'm looking for some sort of halfway reasonable standard of why Jeff Ireland is bad that isn't win/loss record, which is demonstrably and logically bad. My standards are getting lower and lower every day.

Which isn't the slightest bit true, because I've repeatedly put myself out on this topic. I've posted comparisons between draft results between the Dolphins, Steelers, Falcons, and a handful of other teams. I've come up with working definitions of what a successful player is in the context of the draft. I've come up with methodologies, and results for those methodologies, all of which are subjective points up for debate.

And then pretty much all I've gotten back is "Dolphins are bad, you're wrong" in a variety of forms.

 

The 95%.

 

I don't hate Ireland.

He just hasn't done the job. If Ross isn't seeking to upgrade the GM postion he is an idiot.

 

Why does what Sparano does as OC matter to us? Henning and Daboli were our OCs when he was coach. If yestrerday is indicative of how good he is as an OC then it reflects even more poorly on him that he let Henning suck for so long.

 

I'm not sure how much say Sparano had in coaching personnel. Isn't that something the front-office usually handles?

 

The head coach usually has final say on his staff.

 

No. The HC hires his staff. Unless of course you work for Parcells.

 

I think every situation there is different. I believe Sparano had Henning put on his staff for him, but after he was removed/retired/whatever he chose Daboll. I honestly thought Daboll did fairly well, all things considered.

 

Fair enough, and I'll be the first to admit I wasn't a fan of Henning, but it's not like he had a ton to work with.

 

It doesn't make it any less true. If Jeff Ireland was a chef he would have served up a big platter of **** based on yesterday.

 

Well just look at the Jets and Dolphins as a case study.

We eschewed some help at wide receiver (Stephen Hill) in order to spend our 2nd round pick on a right tackle. They addressed their right tackle issue with a 3rd year player out of Northern Iowa that had started 1 game in his career for the Philadelphia Eagles as a rookie, and that's who they had going up against Mario freaking Williams all day. Well, that travesty of a matchup didn't stop them scoring 34 points with the help of that wide receiver (2 TDs) that we passed on in order to make our right tackle situation better.

If you're a Jeff Ireland believer there really isn't any reason the Jets offense should be scoring more than we do. They have a good LT and C, we do as well. They have Santonio Holmes who is a classic headache, but we had our own classic headache and chose to dismiss him for draft picks whereas they chose to keep him. They started with holes at RT and WR, so did we. They drafted Stephen Hill and went cheapo on plugging the RT hole, we drafted Jon Martin and went cheapo on the WR hole. They have Mark Sanchez, we have Ryan Tannehill. It's all pretty well mirrored and if they're scoring 10x what we score on offense then it kind of shows that coaching wasn't the issue.

 

I don't see how Sanchez = Tannehill at this point. Ones a vet the other played his first game.

 

We're sitting here comparing our offense to that of the fricken Tony Sparano New York Jets. Are you kidding me?? That in itself is a HUGE red flag. Seriously. A team with SANCHEZ and TEBOW as their QB just put up 34 points of offense while we managed 3. I mean seriously, it is a Sparano offense. If Sparano can put up that many points with the Jets roster, then it is painfully obvious that there is a talent deficiency here in Miami, and that blame falls squarely on the GM's shoulders. There's no way to deny that, I'm sorry. Just the thought of using that bum's offense in NY as a benchmark for comparing our offense to is sickening. I'm willing to give this team 6 weeks to show me something, but it certainly doesn't look promising.