Uh, maybe this is something they should have fixed? (Tanny batted passes)

Women can rape men. Its rare but it happens. Ive heard horror stories of guys sleeping at parties and waking up to a unknown women on top of them, Bigger women overwhelming smaller guys.

 

Oh God!

But DJ apparently was blackmailed or something because he willingly did what he didn't want to!

 

She could have claimed rape if he didn't do it. Yeah women can be crazy.

 

Becaaaause I was completely unattracted to her....have you ever done a woman who you were physically repulsed by?

 

No man, thats why Im asking why you did it?

 

Lol...

Ummm, because sometimes you just gotta do, what you gotta do..no blackmale though, everyone else thought she was smokin hot...just peer pressure bro.

 

She was similar to C' sig, but white, pretty in the face but, built like that.

 

So we have our issue: Tannehill gets his balls knocked around.

We have had many informed opinions on why this has been an issue. I opined that it may be from his low release point. Others have said it could be from the system he is in -to the O-line not helping keep hands on D-lineman -to the 3-step drops -to his wife having small breasts (which can accommodate his smallish 9" hands) *Just a note, I measured my hands in the way hands are measured at the NFL Combine. I have 9" hands. Tannehill has a good 7" on me. My hands are not inordinately disproportionate to my body size. Dude has small hands relative to his size. Anyone thinking of that Burger King commercial? I digress.....

It could be a culmination of a little bit of everything: same system + same coaches + same QB = same issue. Remember, Tannehill had this happen with some frequency in college.

Whatever the issue(s), this 'balls batted down' thing must be addressed, and by all accounts, will be. Let us see if the coaching translates.

Here are some situational stats from some prominent QBs from 2011:

So what do these stats tell us? Nothing much really. QBs of all shape, sizes, creed, and color get their balls batted down.

What is interesting are the stark differences in the stat in question between Drew Brees and Michael Vick. Both, by accounts, are about 6' tall. Both, incidentally, run a West Coast type system. Miami is running a West Coast system.

While Brees has a firm grasp on the offense, many will agree that Vick has not been the most disciplined in this system. Does this undisciplined nature of Vick lead to more balls batted down? Who the hell knows? I am sure some here can put some spin analyses in qualitative and quantitative measure.

We can sit and analyze all of the data and watch all of the tape, the reality is that we can only surmise the reasons for the problem. We can certainly observe and give our two bits (include a shave and a haircut, and you might be onto something). But in reality, the coaches must wrap their heads around this in order to fix the issue. And it is certainly an issue.

Whether it is the size of Philbin's long face, Sherman's ego, or Ireland's leash, the fact of the matter is Miami's future is pretty much in the tiny hands of Ryan Tannehill. The development and potential of this kid is unquestionably the biggest thing this franchise has going for it.

Now it is time to see if this staff can do its job and put Tannehill in a position to succeed.

 

That's great except for the one week you choose to post a dude.....

You were on a role Clean but the new one.... she look like a man.
Now I got to root for a loss or look at the bird cage for another week?

 

That's exactly what frightens me about the "girl" in Cleans Sig.....

 

Some of those numbers aren't necessarily longer term in nature. If you track all QB snaps from 2008 to 2011, the average is a little over 2 percent batted passes, with a standard deviation about 0.9 percent, and Tannehill's 2011 work with TAMU would therefore be nearly two standard deviations outside the norm. Of the 80+ QBs that had 100+ attempts 2008 to 2011, only 6 of them had higher batted pass percentages than Tannehill's TAMU figure from 2011. None of those 6 are very flattering names, as I recall. I don't have the data in front of me so I can't tell you which ones they were. I'm going off memory.

 

Ok, DougieFresh, just for you my good amigo, since you were once traumatized by an experience with a muscular woman, I'll change it one more time.

 

Someone posted a breakdown of those 19 batted passes. Wish I could remember which thread. I believe it showed the vast majority of those knock downs was from 3 step drops and I believe there was only 2 knockdowns in 5 or 7 step drops. Maybe they just need to mix is up more and get him out of the pocket once in a while.

 

And that statement is true, as is the one I made that you originally responded to. They don't contradict each other.

 

Let me guess: she was a little stiff?

 

I approve of Miss Pond.

 

Looks like 1-2% is ideal. 2-3% is acceptable. Vick is at the upper end around 5%.

I haven;t done stats on Tanny's HOuston game, but his preseason totals worked out to something like 8% of his passes tipped at the line.

 

I've personally considered 1.0 to 1.5% being ideal and 1.5 to 2.5% being more or less "acceptable". Anything above that though and you've got to get that down. Tannehill was at like 3.6% at Texas A&M and in his first game as a pro that went up considerably. I think Pro Football Focus only has 2 batted passes but I don't think that's right, I thought there were more than that. Am I wrong? I know he had a good number of them in preseason.

 

I think Watts had 3 batted balls alone. I think there may have been one more, but not sure if it was at the LOS.

What did he have, something like 4 in the Carolina game?

 

This is why phinsational stopped going to the gym, started dieting and snoozing at house parties.

Hoping to get his virginity swiped by an Amazonian predator.

 

From the Coach Philbin Show Interview Thing

 

Well, his % in Houston was lower than his Pre-season, I feel I can safely say that.

It was amplified, however by Houston preparing and practicing for it, which is why those tips became far more likely to actually be intercepted. Since they planned to bat and intercept passes, the defenders were ready and took advantage of it. Two INTs off batted passes seems more glaring than 6 unintercepted batted passes.

 

If you quote that you have to mention Philbin FIRST said Tannehill is not using his eyes properly, and is causing more tipped balls by locking onto his fiRst receiver.

 

If the above statement is true, I would imagine the pump fake could be an incredible weapon for Tanny and this system.

 

I guess so, but it's hard to trick the Dline on the timing of a three step drop because it is so fast.

You couldnt sell a pump fake on the three step drop back, and the ball needs to come out the second you plant that back foot so you don't have a real opportunity to use a pump fake on a three step drop play.

Honestly, that's what makes it such a great offense to tip balls against. Lots of three step drop passes means you know exactly when the ball is coming out.

Pump fakes are more useful on the longer plays, but then, the DL will see you took a deeper drop and know its not a quick pass.

It's more about them keying on the drop timing than the arm, IMO.

 

Now we're talkin, thanks for not letting me have to live going thru that every time I looked at your sig..lol

She's a fine.

 

I really don't understand why they didn't tie in this kids athleticism and strengths in moving the pocket, it has all kinds of advantages connected to it, however some are saying that it could be part of the developing process to keep him constricted in the pocket, I haven't heard up anything defending that point that would make me believe it but, I'm all ears..

 

She wasn't a dude Doc, but she was hard to the touch..heebie geebees.Lol

I like my woman to feel like a white castle butter muffin bun.

 

There were four that I counted..

 

Just from the list of the 15 QBs I have listed, the percentage of this select group is at 2.14% of balls batted down in 2011. While this is merely a glimpse of some of the NFL QBs, I think this is a pretty good representation of what could be an "acceptable" percentage. And this is about what you have (if your memory serves you correctly). So I think we are on the right path on what is 'average' and 'acceptable'.

So Tannehill is around the 4% mark. If a QB throws 30 passes per game (which I only hope Miami hovers around with Tannehill), he will have an average of 6 passes batted down every five games, or 1.2/game = ~19/year.

I think the INTs from batted balls from Tannehill's first NFL game was very fluke-ish, but an INT here and there from those batted balls can change the course of the game. It certainly did last game.

There were reports of Sherman pointing out things Tannehill needs to do, and Philbin saying some different things, but I wonder if Miami knows something else about this that is leaving the media in the dark? They would have to know something else. I certainly do not think the staff is so candid to put out things (O-line, Tannehill's eyes, etc.) that would give opposing coaches and defenses a bead on the issue.

I just wonder what they are NOT saying regarding this.

 

I suspect that any other coach who watches the game tape can have as much a bead on the issue as Philbin and company. I don't think there's anything about this that can be hidden.

 

I agree. Opposing coaches probably already have a good idea on how to continue the trend. I just wonder if there is something glaring that could be remedied by Miami's coaches that maybe they are not saying in the media?

You know me, shou....I always have to have some kind of conspiracy theory.

(I still wonder what they know and are not telling us)