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Week 2 Raiders at Dolphins - CK's "All 22" Review

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ckparrothead, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Some people mentioned interest in seeing this before so here it is.

    http://www.finsnation.com/fins_nati...weekly-all-22-breakdown-raiders-dolphins.html

     
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  2. DePhinistr8

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    Awesome stuff...Thanks so much!
     
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  3. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Am I the only one that feels pretty confident we'll rarely lose because of coaching mistakes with this staff or is that my extreme Philbin man crush talking?
     
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  4. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Thanks for posting great work.

    I had a hard time getting past that raider uniform.

    After watching the game several times i believe if they keep Jorvorskie Lane on the field we will see alot more high yardage running games.
     
  5. ckparrothead

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    I thought they did make some coaching mistakes against Houston...but they had them corrected by the Oakland game. Changing Tannehill's launch points made a difference as far as the tipped passes are concerned.

    We had some sound schemes, for sure...but it was the coaching of the players in how they execute in those schemes that was more important, I thought.
     
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  6. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    What I like about the coaches is they seem to be teachers too. Something, IMO, we haven't had in a long time.
     
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  7. ckparrothead

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    I thought the last set were actually pretty good teachers to be honest. The players were very execution oriented under Sparano, just not talented enough nor were the schemes any good (on offense).
     
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  8. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Really like to read this when I have time today. You think we have a chance against the Jets CK? Give us a % :wink2:
     
  9. Tone_E

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    Thanks for the excellent write up.

    Regarding R.Jones. Have you seen hesitation from him on film where he did in fact miss a few opportunities to jump a route, or just haven't seen those decisive breaks from him in general? If that question makes sense?
     
  10. ckparrothead

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    Greater than 0 and less than 100?
     
  11. ckparrothead

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    I don't know that you can distinguish. You don't know what's running through his brain. Either way, normally speaking, he's not reading the quarterback and pulling the trigger. And then suddenly the game is out of reach and there's nothing to lose by gambling a bit, and suddenly he does it.
     
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  12. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    I bet we see more of Derrick Shelby as the season goes on and wouldn't be surprised if it's against a good passing team such as the Patriots.
     
  13. ckparrothead

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    I just have to think the run defense is so good right now we have to be able to borrow from it a little bit in order to get better pass rush. And Shelby's not even necessarily a good pass rusher, he's just not a total blank. Nor is Shelby bad versus the run, actually he's more of a run defender than pass rusher. He made a great play to force Darren McFadden to cut back on a stretch play, and really Darren should've been taken down in the backfield by the help but instead he did something fruity and reversed field completely, made a bunch more people miss, and ended up with like a 3 yard gain.
     
  14. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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  15. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    CK, Whats your thoughts on if the Phins will be able to run the ball against the Jets?



    Edit: and not 0-to 200 yds lol.
     
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  16. Alex13

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    great writeup CK, question do you think that little block from pouncey on mcclain on reggie's 65 yard TD run was a big deal like i do or did he had no chance on the play to get to reggie anyways ?
     
  17. Larry Little

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    Wow. Well. Done.
     
  18. Tone_E

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    Maybe his reluctance to make those breaks is influence by the game plan. I read somewhere, an article, or player quote, can't remember now that stated the game plan was to stop McFadden and not give up the long pass plays. In hindsight it explained the frustration I was experiencing watching the game as OAK seemed to be completing passes to WRs with 2 or 3 MIA DBs behind them. The comebacks and deep zones created a lot of space for those 10-15 yard pass plays.
     
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  19. Sumlit

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    I like this coaching staff. They're all about discipline and intelligence. IMO that is soo underrated in football. You see what a disciplined and intelligent coach like Jim Harbaugh is able to do with a Niners team. Or even Bellicheat.

    A well coached, disciplined, smart team is very very hard to beat. If ever the talent matches the discipline and intelligence, we're gonna be a force.
     
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  20. ckparrothead

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    No question about it, it was a key block. If he whiffs on that block completely or just doesn't make it, then yes I think McClain continues along at speed and prevents that run from being a 60+ yard touchdown. The reason I don't praise Pouncey for it too much is just that this is his job (in this particular scheme) and it's what we should expect him to do. The block he made I think it was last week where he got WAAAAY out and torpedoed someone on a screen, that was above-board. This block though, he's sprinting out to the left in the zone very usually, the strong side linebacker clamps down to the line and so he can't perform a cutoff block on him, and so he goes to his second option who is Rolando McClain. If Pouncey had somehow managed to execute a cutoff block on the Sam then that to me would've been noteworthy. He really only gave McClain a bit of a speed bump...but it was enough.

    If I'm giving a gold star out to a player on that run (sort of like I gave a gold star to Olivier Vernon last week for what I felt was a hard, key block on Thigpen's return touchdown), then it would be to Anthony Fasano. He's manned up on a defensive end with minimal to no help, and he seals the guy perfectly keeping the hole open for what takes (in football time) an age for both the fullback and tailback to get out there. That effort, to me, produced that play. Without that effort then any number of bad things could have happened that would have blown the integrity of the play apart. If Reggie has to hesitate, the play is dead. If Reggie has to flatten out more, it's dead. If Jorvorskie has to steer off and take care of business instead of leading Reggie through the hole, it's dead. The sombrero was on Fasano on that play and he got the job done.
     
  21. ckparrothead

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    LOL.

    It's so hard to say because from a pure blocking standpoint I don't think they will get the job done. But Reggie be Reggie. This is Reggie Bush, not Freddie Poon. I was clearly wrong about that. He could do something ridiculous at any time and then a 21 run for 56 yard day turns into a 22 run for 108 yards and a TD kind of day.
     
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  22. ckparrothead

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    And the other thing I didn't mention is, yes it's true that Fasano gets a gold star on that 60 yard touchdown run from Reggie, but Reggie still deserves the credit. Fasano had a tough job but not an impossible one. Nobody did anything herculean. Reggie made that happen because once he got out to the hole, he turned on his 4.37 or whatever speed, and it was over. MOST other backs are caught on that play, don't have the speed to make it a house play. That's one reason I praise him so much.
     
  23. shouright

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    And notice that Michael Huff and his 4.34 were trailing, to no avail. Huff would've ran down almost every back in the league in that situation.
     
  24. djphinfan

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    Stanford over USC..4 times in a row..tells me a lot..
     
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  25. Ohio Fanatic

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    Excellent write-up CK. Tannehill will have some ups-and-downs this year, but IMO, his play will be good enough that much of the sting/stink of previous QBs will start to be erased from memory
     
  26. djphinfan

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    CK and 22 tape...dangerous combination..
     
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  27. ckparrothead

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    This screen thing really has me concerned. I'm surprised the Raiders didn't just keep doing it after it had so much success. The Dolphins have quite literally through two games yet to show they can even LIMIT the success of a screen to the back. And what's bad is I know Kevin Coyle right now is scrambling trying to figure out how to close that opening before everyone else exploits it, yet it begs the question what are you giving up in order to do that? Cameron Wake can't do everything. He can't be the ONLY guy that gets consistent pass rush on the quarterback, and then oh by the way we need you to keep your eye on the tailback when he jumps outside your shoulder. There's only so much he can do.

    The other way to shut it down would be to have Koa Misi be more aware of it but even then, does that mean you're giving up pass coverage to do that? Even if he's aware will he run into a blocker and get blocked and that's it?
     
  28. HULKFish

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    Yeah, well we better get that fixed long before we see the "screen kings" Patsies... which I'm sure they will. Great write up!

    This Jest week looks pretty evenly matched to me. I can see one or two plays making the difference.
     
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    I think they would get a lot of mileage out of simply practicing taking the correct angles and flowing to the ball-carrier. Dansby and Clemons would've stopped that play for a much shorter gain had either of them done that.
     
  30. ckparrothead

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    That's really not true.
     
  31. Bpk

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    Great write-up, Chris. Thanks.

    Are you at all concerned about Sherman utilizing the rollout, half-field reads too often with Tannehill and it slowing the development of his ability to stand in the pocket and go through progressions and read full back-end coverages.

    It concerns me if I see it accounting for most of Tannehill's big plays game-after-game. At some point they have to work on his weakness: diagnosing the middle of the field.

    You know what will happen if the Pats have half a seasons worth of film showing Tannehill rolling and throwing outside. Short term it works. Long term, good opposing coaches will take it away.
     
  32. ckparrothead

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    No I'm really not concerned with that. I think we're getting like 10 steps ahead if we're concerned about that.

    I don't necessarily see a problem yet diagnosing and working the middle of the field. He had a cover two look against the Raiders and he hit Davone on a seam route, placing it low and outside so that he could adjust to it, and it worked perfectly. When the time comes we'll be able to do that with our tight ends as well. Fasano versus McClain was not a good matchup for that. But I mean, if you want a middle read, how about that touchdown to Fasano. How quickly did he diagnose that Tampa Two type look with the safeties widening and McClain dropping beck to depth before he could fully engage Fasano? That play worked because Tannehill diagnosed it in a split second.
     
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    I think Ryan can read the middle more easily when eight guys drop back in the end zone in a compressed field. Where in unsure about him is over the middle beyond the LB. But that could be me assuming things due to Tannehill tending to throw outside a lot with success.
     
  34. ckparrothead

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    I just don't see a problem there yet but we'll see. As he throws the football more we'll start to get a sense for it.
     
  35. dolfan22

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    22 also gets the credit because virtually every single day he is out working , and working hard after practice. If people don't think hard work matters , they need to see how Bush has played , specifically the last 2 years. More Dolphin players need to be pressured by the best ( or one of ) player outworking them and then outperforming them , imo.
     
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    And that's why you re-sign Bush rather than let him go because you can replace his production with someone else, because he helps you establish that kind of team culture, which is paramount for a first-time head coach.
     
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  37. ckparrothead

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    I'm in no hurry to re-sign. The franchise tag is only $7.7 million. At that position, he could take an injury tomorrow and suddenly you're like whew thankfully we didn't give him $16 million guaranteed.
     
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    You think Dansby and Clemons have responsibility only for the ball-carrier and not for noticing what's going with their teammates and adjusting accordingly?
     
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    Derrick Shelby was known as a run stuffer despite his size in college. Realistically speaking how much does the front seven losing in run stuffing with him at RE? I can't imagine too much.
     
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  40. ckparrothead

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    You ever hear about when a player gets "caught trying to do too much"?

    It's when they're caught trying to do exactly as you're suggesting, assuming that none of their teammates are going to do their jobs, and so they get out of gap position.

    Fact of the matter is if you're going to assign blame on who blew their containment on that play, it's Koa Misi and Nolan Carroll not Karlos Dansby and Chris Clemons.
     
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