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week 5 predictions

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Datdude23, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. Datdude23

    Datdude23 New Member

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    let me start by saying I'm not trolling, or trying to be a Homer, but I would like to have some conversation about the upcoming game this week... Interested in how you guys see this playing out.

    I see it like this.

    QB-Bengals
    WR-Bengals
    RB-Dolphins
    O-line-Dolphins
    Dline- against the run-Dolphins....Against the pass-Bengals

    Offense overall-Bengals
    Defense overall-Dolphins for now, however with the starters for the bengals coming back it will be a better bengals D than has shown up in past games this year.

    I see this one going to the bengals in a close game for most of the game but bengals pulling away late something to the tune of 28-17, maybe 28-21.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Bpk

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    Pretty fair assessment.

    Hope we somehow win. IMO that would have to come from special teams.

    Thing is, our STs is not as good since losing Pruitt and now Naanee.
     
  3. Datdude23

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    A big key will be ST's. A key to your guys' victory would have to be trying to pin the bengals deep in their own territory. Fact is, they're not very good on converting third down. If you make them drive the full length of the field the majority of the time you should be fairly successful, however, this is only true if you're able to take away the deep ball though, because if you guys cant do that AJ is going to go off. There hasn't been a team yet that's tried to play him man to man and been able to stop him. he got shut out in week 1 against the ravens, and put up big enough numbers the other 3 weeks to still win Offensive player of the Month for september.
     
  4. Ohio Fanatic

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    I think Miami is due and they win a very close game. 26-23. (lots of FGs)
     
  5. dwoodie17

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    :lol: have you seen our kicker lately?
     
  6. HULKFish

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    I don't see it that way... I see the Bengals suffering our wrath after two weeks of OT losses. The Dolphins have some confidence going into this one. Dolphins 24 Bengals 16
     
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  7. dWreck

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    This week is a tough call. I assumed last week at AZ was going to be a terrible beat down and was pretty suprised.

    QB - this is my biggest uncertainty of the bunch. I think Tannehill is going to have a good day against cin's secondary. and how well our d is going to do against the pass this game...eh...... i really cant go one way or the other on this one. its hard to gauge off our own QB consistency.....50/50 split... If I HAD to give an edge it would be to Cinci.

    WR - Im probably going to say Cincy on this one. I see a lot of holes and gaps getting exploited and bent over so-to-speak.....our recent WR pick up was a good one, although i dont see a contribution this game. Bline and Bess are playing at a very high level atm... but bess needs to start holding on to those quick slants......and it really Shouldnt be -TOO- hard to shred our secondary up. edge to cinci.

    RB - Miami. no explanation necessary

    Lines - right off the bat i'm going to give the lineplay of this game to Miami. Both lines. I'm confident in the solidity of our O-line for the most part, and if our D line plays half as well as they did last game i still see them pulling through as superior. whether run stuffing or rushing...... the last thing i'm worried about is the bengals running game on our d line, but after the sackapalooza last game, its going to have to be a wait and see situation because i dont think highly of AZ's fresh line ends in the first place.

    Offense - like most reads i've seen on the game im going dead even 50/50 offensive stat split. I think it'll be a mid to high scoring game for both. and come down to more of ST situations and some crucial TO's

    Defense - overall i'm going to go with Miami after last weeks performance and some adjustments. its been a trial and error thing so far, and its going to come down to if we shoot ourselves in the foot and give up the 4th and 10 again or not. gut feeling. because Miami's D has played some near PERFECT lock down football aside from the 1-5 plays where we off ourselves. I also wonder how well of a read Coyle will have on this game altogether.

    This is a combination of watching last game and slight homerism, but Miami is over due for a win, and at this point STARVING for it. I see their play reflecting that.

    28-20 Miami. Big ST plays

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  8. Datdude23

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    although i disagree with the outcome, your rational is pretty spot on, other than the bengals d IMO, we were missing lots of players earlier in the season, and this week all of those players on D will be back with the exception of Sims, who admittedly is our best D lineman against the run, that being said though, I think you'll see a much different bengals D than what the stats or rankings represent.

    and as far as ST is concerned, since our starting CB's are healthy and should be playing in this game, that means we'll have Adam Jones aka pacman back returning punts, and lets be completely honest, he's one of the top 3 punt returners in the game with the potential to break one on any given chance.
     
  9. Rocky Raccoon

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    That is a good point. The team has been saying all week how good they feel about themselves despite the tough losses. I think they're confident they can beat anyone.

    Confidence and anger are 2 great things to have for a football team.
     
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  10. dWreck

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    The difference in our outcome views will probably come down to those big ST plays and some crucial TOs. I don't know too much about the bengals D aside from what ive seen and current season stats i can go by, so i'm a bit in the dark about some of your returning players. Ofcourse that aspect of it would be easier for you to gauge than me, but Bush is Bush, and has been nothing short of amazing this season. so it'll be fun to watch either way.

    teams with good returners mean nothing when your teams MVP is your punter! Woooooo! in all seriousness though, we are pretty renown for Riz and our ST play. so again A-Jones and ST will be another key match up just like your run D and how well Bush plays. I'm very excited for this game. and although our predictions are for different outcomes, the point/spreads themselves are very similar. I mean in the end we are like the 9th and 10th ranked offenses last time i checked:lol:
     
  11. jsizzle

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    The one good team they played smashed them bad. We are the 2nd best team they played.
     
  12. Datdude23

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    true, on us getting beat bad by the ravens, it was the first game of the season, primetime, MNF, and Marvin is HORRIBLE at getting the bengals ready for big primetime games. HORRIBLE. And our defense in that game isnt the same one on the field for this one.

    that being said, you guys are the second best team we've played, since we havent played very many good teams so far this season that really isnt saying much though. you didnt really say anything to make a point as to why you guys should win or lose, your secondary is not very good at all. and since we have the best receiver in the game right now, I'm interested in knowing how you plan on stopping him...
     
  13. Datdude23

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    and ya, I know, you guys stopped Fitz last week, but Fitz hasnt put up big numbers at all this season, whether its against you guys or anyone else they've played. partially bc his QB is garbage. also AJ is the best receiver in the game, and his numbers in this point of his career are better than 5 of the best to ever play the game. here's my proof...

    [TABLE="align: center"]
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    [TD="bgcolor: #000000, colspan: 5"]A.J. GREEN VS. OTHER TOP NFL RECEIVERS[/TD]
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    [TD]FIRST 20 GAMES[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]CATCHES[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]YARDS[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]AVG.[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]TD[/TD]
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    [TR="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]
    [TD]A.J. Green, CIN[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]97[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1,532[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]15.8[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
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    [TR="bgcolor: #ffffff"]
    [TD]Larry Fitzgerald, ARI[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]85[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1,148[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]13.5[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]
    [TD]Andre Johnson, HOU[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]83[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1,331[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]16.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]6[/TD]
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    [TR="bgcolor: #ffffff"]
    [TD]Jerry Rice, SF[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]71[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1,303[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]18.4[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]4[/TD]
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    [TR="bgcolor: #eeeeee"]
    [TD]Calvin Johnson, DET[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]71[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]1,113[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]15.7[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]7[/TD]
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    [TR="bgcolor: #ffffff"]
    [TD]Roddy White, ATL[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]35[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]495[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]14.1[/TD]
    [TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
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  14. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Pffft. Hes no Hartline.
    :shifty:




    :sidelol:
     
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  15. Sumlit

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    As i predicted last week Tannehill having a breakout game, i'm going to ride my streak and coming up with another bold prediction.

    This week:

    Tannehill over 300 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT.

    Dolphins win 34-27 on a comeback shootout. Tannehill scores 2 TDs in the 4th quarter, 1 passing 1 rushing.
    Reggie has a good game with 100+ rushing yards and 1 TD.
     
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  16. Datdude23

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    if our starting CB's are healthy and start this game there's no way he throws for 300 and 2 Td's. You realize you're doubling his touchdown total for the season right? reggie, ok that i can agree to, i see somewhere around 130 or so with a TD or 2, but no way tannehill throws for 300 and 2 td's.
     
  17. Datdude23

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    LOL thats comical. we can both get a good laugh out of this one.
     
  18. Sumlit

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    It's my prediction. Also, you could have said the same about Arizona, and he threw for 400 yards. I think i'll be close to reality. Just wait and see.
     
  19. jw3102

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    Reggie is questionable for the game. Even if he plays, I don't see him being nearly as effective as he was earlier in the season when he was completely healthy. This will hurt the Dolphins running game.

    The Bengals will be passing the football all day. The Dolphins are in trouble at CB, with Carroll and Marshall both suffering though injuries right now. Heck, even when both of them are healthy, they still aren't very good. I think Dalton will have a big game throwing against the Dolphins secondary on Sunday.

    I think the Bengals will cover Hartline and Bess much better than the Cardinals secondary did. Tannehill is going to have to find other open receivers if he expects to have success in this game.

    I think it will be a close game, but in the end, I think the Bengals will prevail by a score of 27-24.
     
  20. dWreck

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    Obviosuly it was a joke, but i'm very happy with hartline lol. before the season started, If you woulda told me he'd be the leading the nfl in ANYTHING at ANY point in the season... i'd have called you nuts. Lol.

    Can we have A.J? or maybe just borrow him...............forever....
     
  21. Datdude23

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    ok, we'll see, I just think with all the pressure that's going to be in his face Sunday he won't be able to control himself and make good decisions late in game. Especially if they're trailing in the 4th. btw, the bengals record with Dalton under center vs. teams with losing records is 12-0.
     
  22. dWreck

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    I see 300 yards as very VERY doable, especially after last game if that swagger carries over. 2 TDs not so much,

    with having Lane and our run game, tanny just wont be correcting that TD-INT ratio very fast if at all. but it doesnt mean he wont be getting us points.
     
  23. Datdude23

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    lol you wish. So does Tannehill. And Philbin, and every other Miami Dolphin other than maybe Hartline and Bess.
     
  24. Datdude23

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    An interesting stat: The Bengals are tied for seventh most in the NFL with 16 passes of 20 yards or more. The Dolphins are tied for allowing the sixth-most 20-yard passes with 16.
     
  25. Alex13

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    i think you expect to much from them coming back to real game action and expecting no drop off, there will be some growing pains especially with a hammy that hall had
     
  26. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    AJ has 5 of those, hartline has 6 :shifty: miami has a total of 17 plays over 20+ yards
     
  27. ckparrothead

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    I'm not a big fan of position versus position analysis unless they're positions that will actually be battling one another.

    For instance, their receivers versus our corners. Our corners versus their receivers. That position by position analysis I'll take. But their receivers versus our receivers, I'm not so sure about.

    I think overall the thing that concerns me here is that their corners seem to be getting healthy at a time when ours are getting more injured. Nolan Carroll came back to practice today but Richard Marshall did not. As much as I don't like Marshall on the perimeter I'm not convinced he's a bad slot corner yet and the slot will be a key because when we try and take away A.J. Green that is when they can hit you with Andrew Hawkins.

    Carlos Dunlap is also back healthy and the combination of he and Geno Atkins is fearsome. I'm not sure yet if I buy the Michael Johnson ascendria (bonus: pick out the movie that word comes from) but I was a fan of him at a reduced price in the draft so maybe the light is turning on for him, who knows. Either way the guys that I KNOW will be tough to handle will be Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap. Atkins against John Jerry is shudder-worthy enough, but Dunlap against Jon Martin even more so.

    We'll see but if Richard Marshall misses this game it could be the first example of what I've been talking about with this team's lack of depth becoming a factor as the season wears on.
     
  28. jsizzle

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    This kid is assuming that Dalton will be on his feet to complete these passes to the great AJ Green.

    I think Wake will be up his *** all game long.
     
  29. Datdude23

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    we'll see. I think you may be surprised. Not saying you're wrong, Just saying I disagree with you.
     
  30. Alex13

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    well cincy has come on the last few weeks, but lets not kid ourselves here, you got shredded by a good ravens team and then got 3 wins against jacksonville, washington and cleveland....who are a combined 3-9..... the bengals really havent played a team so far, you could make a case you still aren't this weekend since we are also only 1-3, we'll see now it unfolds, but i like our chances with our advantage in the trenches
     
  31. Datdude23

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    In Andy Dalton's very short lived career, he is 12-0 when he plays a team with a sub .500 record. and yes, they have played 3 games against sub .500 teams, but if you take away those losses the BENGALS gave them, and they're combined record is now 6-6. The fact is, you guys don't know how to finish games.
     
  32. Alex13

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    and why would i take away the losses, they have happened... well so you think that 12-0 will stay intact and go to 13-0, i believe we find a way to finish this time, lets see who will be right, dalton sure will have to throw a lot...no one is running on us
     
  33. Datdude23

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    well, since he's 4th in the league in QBR, top 10 in passer rating, has 8 TD's, and over 1100 yards in 4 games, and has hit 6 different receivers for a TD, last game he hit 8 different receivers for a completion. and he has the best receiver in the league. I'd say our passing game will be just fine, Will your rushing game be ok if Reggie can't go though? or tries play and he's not 100% and actually ends up damaging your running game by taking reps from other players that are healthy.
     
  34. Alex13

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    yeah we already talked about the weak competition since week 1, good numbers indeed, but everyone is doing it against the redskins, jaguars and browns, our running game will be fine, you are not really world beaters allowing 5.4 yards a rush
     
  35. Datdude23

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    lol ya, except washington has a better record than you do, Jax has the same record you do, and have you missed the entire conversation about our defense being depleted due to injury? we just now started getting our guys back healthy and the defense has steadily increased each week. yep, 5.4 yards a rush and we're still 3-1. you guys have a top 5 rushing defense yet youre 1-3, and cant stop the pass for crap.
     
  36. Datdude23

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    oh and you lost to the jets....who are on the same level as every team we've played and beat. the fact is, we beat teams we're supposed to beat.
     
  37. Alex13

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    and you expect the players that come back to be right back to game form ? there will be some rust, and yes we have the best run D in the league and this is why we get passed on a lot, but if i'm not mistaken, someone posted we still are 3rd best in the league in QBR allowed at 75 point something
     
  38. Alex13

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    yeah so what you did what you were supposed to do and we came up 2 FG's short
     
  39. the 23rd

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    win or lose it will be a good game & learning experience
    having said that
    dolphins by 3
     
  40. Datdude23

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    good teams find ways to win, bad ones find ways to lose. just sayin.
     

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