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Out on a Limb | Dolphins in a Blowout This Week

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shouright, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Knowing you DJ, that would look about like this:

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    ;)
     
  2. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Pictured above: New York Jets starting QB Mark Sanchez prepares his anus for a Cameron Wake onslaught. Former New York Jets starting RT Wayne Hunter looks on helplessly.
     
  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lol..meister, heheheheh
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    To prepare for such happenings, Sanchez tries to find a happy place.
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    . Cam wakes
     
  6. Califin

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    Hmmm, I smell chum.
     
  7. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    I'm with you, although I think the strongest part of the "storm" is actually the combination of the emerging player leadership Philbin mentioned and the threat against Bush.

    The Jets made the mistake of taking a team whose player leadership is just starting to find itself and giving it a huge rallying cry. The energy and motivation generated by that will be very powerful IMO.
     
  8. shouright

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    It's an intuition you get from having watched many, many games between many teams in many situations. But if you take an analytical look at it and find the patterns underlying those games and teams, you can start to predict these things when you recognize the similarities between the past and present.

    Of course you can still be wrong, and I may totally be tomorrow, but I do think there is a "science" of sorts behind handicapping games in this way. No science is 100% reliable, but it does afford you the ability to be right more often than wrong, instead of just throwing darts at random.
     
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  9. Alex13

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    no blowouts for us....if we lead...there will always be something that ****s it up and the game all of a sudden becomes close and goes down the wire, i'm used to this by now, there is just no other way possible with this team atm
     
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  10. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    And that's entirely possible, but it doesn't take into account what's going on with the other team. I think there is a high probability that a big lead by us in the first half, which I think we'll have, will result in an implosion by the Jets.

    So the typical comeback you'd see against us that you're talking about I think has a strong chance of being forestalled by the Jets' internal problems. I don't think they'll be able to muster the typical sort of resilience you'd see in the face of an early deficit at the NFL level.

    On top of that, given the situational factors involved in this game, which I mentioned earlier in the thread, I think the Dolphins will have far more motivation than usual to pile onto an early lead and make it a statement game with a blowout from start to finish.

    So you have one team for which it stands to be an implosion game, and another that's highly motivated IMO to make a strong statement with a blowout. The combination of those factors creates the recipe for the sort of game we don't usually see at the NFL level.
     
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  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/27/jets-to-retire-dennis-byrds-jersey-sunday/


    “The message was, ‘Leave it on the field. You never know when it’s going to be your last snap, so play as if every single one is,’” tight end Dustin Keller said. “It was huge. We played our butts off that day. It meant a lot to us. Sometimes people take things for granted as far as their career. We have to realize opportunities can be lost.”

    I'm thinking were gonna get their best shot.
     
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  12. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Yep
     
  13. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    Could be, but the last time he spoke to them, it was before a playoff game on the road against a team that was favored to beat them (the Patriots). This time it'll be before a mid-season game whose significance probably pales in comparison and that they're favored to win, and on top of that, his presence won't have the novelty it had the first time.

    In other words, the "win one for the Gipper" spirit probably won't exist this time. In fact if the Jets' players compare the two scenarios in their minds, it may actually cause a let-down.
     
  14. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    ill disagree with you here, Byrd is a phenominal human being, I'm a bit worried cause he comes around a the best time for them coming off that loss..He didnt quit livin, why would they quit playing a game.
     
  15. muscle979

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    Byrd won't change the fact that they will be playing a better football team that is coming off of more rest and more prep. time.
     
  16. Fin D

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    By saying that you are basically saying this:

    a moving speech > a bye week, excellent coaching, excellent game planning, division game, play offs in the balance, revenge for the first game, etc.
     
  17. shouright

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    I don't think there is any danger of them quitting. I think the danger is that they'll get down big early and start finger-pointing and disintegrating.

    When you have a loose cannon head coach like this, you're prone to these insane remarks they're making in the lead up to the game, and you're also prone to mouthing off at each other when things aren't going well.

    The team basically takes on the personality of its coach and becomes very unstable.
     
  18. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm ok now..

    Check this out y'all..


    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8551009



    Pounce..

    " we're an angry football team"..

    " Our running game will get back on track now that teams know they can't stack the box"

    " we're gonna protect our back and our QB"

    " you can tell by practice Reggie has a chip", he won't say anything, but he knows we got his back"

    My favorite way to play..I love it man.

    There is so much juice in that interview..

    This is gonna be a whole lotta fun, when you know your team is this ready to play, I mean really ready, it should give us a great gauge as to how they perform under these conditions...

    Wn games like this, is how you develop a new type of culture.
     
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  19. shouright

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    And the thing about it is that all that is happening just as the team is starting to have significant player leadership. It's like the Jets are giving those leaders a ready-made rallying cry that can't help but hit home with the rest of their teammates.

    If the team didn't have such a rallying cry, then there would be a chance that the newness of the player leadership would cause some awkwardness as those guys try to deliver a message to their teammates, but you can be sure that won't be happening under these circumstances. They'll be delivering a message that rings true for every guy on the roster.
     
  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Doc, you gotta listen to that interview and tell me what you think.
     
  21. BigNastyDB13

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    The Jets aren't going to have a problem getting up for this game. They're playing for their season. Playing a division game and they've been talking out their *** all week. You really think they're going to have a problem getting pumped up? No way. They know they can't just show up and beat Miami. They know Miami led their 1st meeting the whole game until 2 minutes in the 4th qtr. The fins beat themselves that first game with turnovers and missed field goals. They're better than the jets and the jets know they'll have to play a good game to win. They'll also need some luck like last time but they wont admit that.
     
  22. BigNastyDB13

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    I love what Pouncey had to say but I'm not sure where he gets the notion teams know they can't stack the box on us. We've scored 17 points our last 2 games. We haven't made anyone pay for stacking the box because we don't have a wr who can consistently beat a solid corner. Bess is near impossible to cover man to man in the slot but we run so much 2 wr sets that we don't take advantage of that nearly enough. Even without a decent 3rd wr we should be trying to run the ball out of 3 wr set. Not sure why we haven't tried that. Not like Lane has been a great lead blocker or anything and it spreads the defense out a bit. That's how you get rid of 8 in the box. As smart as Philbin is, not sure why we dont see more of that.
     
  23. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    But if this were true, there would be no teams that had poor seasons. Every team is playing for their season at some point in the season, and over half the teams in the league end up out of the playoffs.

    There are internal factors within teams that get in the way of some of the things you'd expect from a team looking at it from the outside, and I think some of those kinds of things are going on with the Jets.

    What I expect from them is a very hollow, flimsy sort of "pumped" that readily dissolves into finger-pointing and disintegration when they get punched in the mouth. And that's because, like their coach, they have no solid character underlying their emotional drama.

    They're like the bully who runs home to momma when you nail his ***.
     
  24. shouright

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    Quiet confidence.
     
  25. BigNastyDB13

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    Teams having losing records has nothing to do with what I was saying. Teams who have poor records have so because of a lack of talent, injury, bad bounces, etc. The Jets lost to the Patriots last week but it had nothing to do with being pumped up or not. When the Fins beat them tomorrow it wont be because the Jets weren't pumped up. It'll be because the Jets aren't good.
     
  26. BigNastyDB13

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    Still trying to figure out how saying the Jets wont have a problem getting up for this game because its a must win, rivalry, division game somehow has anything to do with teams having losing records. Makes absoluty no sense bro.
     
  27. shouright

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    IMO the parity in talent in the league is such that, in a single game, any team that's capable of being motivated to save its season would beat any other that wasn't motivated to save its season. The issue is that many teams are incapable of being that highly motivated because of intangible factors within them, and I suspect the Jets are becoming one of those as we speak.
     
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  29. BigNastyDB13

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    If its the article in regards to Philbin naming certain guys who have become leaders I've read it. Having issues with my phone opening the link. I'm not discounting the dolphins will be highly motivated to win this game. All I'm saying is the Jets are not going to take this game lightly. If the jets were 6-1 coming off a victory over the pats then maybe I'd understand the logic. As it stands, they're desperate for a win, playing at home vs a team they hate. The Jets will be emotionally into this game. I think the dolphins will win. I think they're a better team and I think Philbin is infinitely smarter than Rex and given 2 weeks to prepare I give the Fins a huge advantage in that category. The Jets have plenty of reasons to want to win this game, they'll be pumped. Hopefully so pumped they make mental mistakes.
     
  30. shouright

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    The article wasn't in response to your post. I was posting it to support some of the ideas I presented earlier in the thread.
     
  31. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  32. Dolphins1Beatles

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    Getting windy here in NY, so its definitely going to be swirling big time at the meadowlands, not a game to settle for Field Goals or throw too much. Gotta get the run game going, especially for the second half. Oh, and F--- the Jest Up!
     
  33. BigNastyDB13

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    If we can jump out to an early lead and grab a 10-11 point lead entering the 4th, which we ve actually done really well since Houston the weather should help us out. Looking back, I think we've had a double digit lead in every game since Hou. The 4th qtr is where the problems have occurred. Hoping for a laugher today.
     
  34. Bumrush

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    I've got a few things to say about this thread:

    :theman::hammertime::butthead:
     
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  35. slickj101

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  36. Layfield

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    You crazy, Shou!
     
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    :party:
     
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  38. vt_dolfan

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    Shou.....

    Woot high five bro........nailed this one!!!
     
  39. GARDENHEAD

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    Sweet!
     
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  40. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Congrats for prediction....glad it came true. :tongue2:
     

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