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Offense Hasn't Finished Yet

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Berezo, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. Berezo

    Berezo Well-Known Member

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    I know that the Defense didn't show up today, and Sean Smith didn't show up at all. That's a whole different topic and I want to talk about the offense. There are three different games where the offense has gotten the opportunity to either close out the opponent or in case of this game, go down and win. The first game was the against the Jets. We drove down during regulation and had the shot to win the game during regulation. Bad play calling and not utilizing the middle of the field cost us. It happened again in overtime that game...We drove down and decided not to use the middle of the field. We threw two deep routes to hartline instead of getting closer near the sidelines.

    Enter the Arizona game. We had the shot again to end it and put it away on offense. Instead we stalled out at midfield and had to punt. The defense crumbled and sent us to overtime where we lost. Call it play calling again or whatever, offense just didn't get it done.

    And then today. Defense did not show up but they did give us an opportunity at the end of the game to drive down and tie/win the game. Again, at midfield...we stall out. We could have utilized more of the middle of the field and we just didn't. There have been three games now where the offense could have decided the fate of the game and just flat out failed. Offense is going to need to win one of these games late and not always try to rely on the defense which is susceptible. I know the defense didn't show up, but the offense hasn't proved that they can go down and win a game yet.
     
  2. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    not sure why anyone is surprised. we lack weapons, plain and simple.
     
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  3. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    We expected this from the offense.

    I don't expect a rookie QB to be able to do these things yet. Especially with minimal running game. We're getting about x10 more out of RT than we expected. He played a very clean game today which should've been enough for the win.

    I'm very upset over this game because our Defense showed the troubles it may have against quality passing offenses. But on the other hand, Ryan Tannehill has played his 4th game in a row where he has not thrown an INT. He's way ahead of the curve, and WAYYY ahead of where just about anyone thought he would be. The 4th quarter come from behind drives will come. I'm not worried about that yet. And I won't worry about them until 2014 (his 3rd year).

    Just look at the progress in the past 5 weeks............We get to watch this kid progress for the next 10-15 years. This is the best silver lining you could imagine. He's made more progress in these 5 weeks than Henne, Feeley, or Fiedler made over 5 years.
     
  4. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    It's unfortunate but we have to keep reminding ourselves that bess, hartline, and fasano are adequate at best.
     
  5. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Amen. Some pretty nice pieces moving forward for sure, but 1 often nicked game changer that seldom stars in the 4th quarter isn't going to get it done.
     
  6. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    I'm not so sure it has as much to do with the lack of weapons as it has to do with having an inexperienced rookie QB and an inconsistent running game.

    This is a game I expect to win once Tannehill gains experience. But for now, I don't expect him to overcome the Defensive deficiencies. He's not Eli Manning, Tom Brady, or Aaron Rodgers. He shouldn't be expected to do that yet.

    I'm still very upset. But I stepped back and put things into perspective. The guy is starting his 8th game. Let's think back to when these guys were rookies: Brady (backup), Eli (sucked), Peyton (would've thrown 3 picks and lost by 2 TDs), Big Ben (threw the ball 12 times a game), Rodgers(backup), Rivers(backup), etc. Matt Ryan was at, or even below the level as a rookie as Tannehill is now. Same goes for Flacco. Both were more in the realm of what Big Ben was trying to do as a rookie. Basically throw only when you need to and run the ball 40 times a game.

    So basically, none of those aformentioned QBs were even remotely at the level where they were expected or even accomplished bringing their teams from behind in the 4th quarter in their rookie seasons.
     
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  7. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    What he^^^^^ said
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think Bess and Hartline are just fine, of course we need to add 1 more player to that unit that has an exceptional skillset..
     
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  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Tannehill didn't do anything to lose this game imo..it was everyone else.
     
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  10. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Agreed.

    I'm not saying we couldn't use another exceptional receiving option like a Jennings or Wallace. I'm just saying I don't think that is the main reason why the offense is fluttering at crucial times.
     
  11. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Nor do I think he did anything to lose the game. In fact, I think he played VERY good. And it should have been enough for the win. The defense let the team down today. More specifically, the defensive backfield.

    My point was: Tannehill should not be expected to coordinator an offense to come from behind late in the 4th Quarter. This is simply an unrealistic expectation for a rookie QB in his 8th game. And I just proved why it is unrealistic by listing the league's top QBs, and where they were in their rookie seasons and how they were also not expected to lead 4th quarter comebacks. Nor did any of them really accomplish them.
     
  12. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    In related news, Brandon Marshall has more receiving TDs than all the Dolphins combined.
     
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  13. Fin-Omenal

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    I really believe the Dolphins picked the wrong guy to try to make an example of after the nightclub incident.

    All Brandon has done since is dominate.
     
  14. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    I tend to look at it like this: Was Brandon Marshall the right guy to pair up with your rookie QB? I don't think so.

    I think Brandon Marshall is only right in an offense with either an already established QB or a QB with a bigger ego than Brandon Marshall. Jay Cutler is that guy. Ryan Tannehill is not.
     
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  15. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    True. You bring in a diva after this year, and it is alreadt RYANs team, not his. This year tanne still had to earn it and prove it
     
  16. Fin-Omenal

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    I don't want a QB who lets a WR dictate what he does. That's weak sauce and you don't want weak sauce being your franchise QB.
     
  17. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Neither do I.

    And a Brandon Marshall type coming into this team in 2 or 3 years.....cool. RT will probably be ready to deal with the nonsense by then. But in your rookie year, a Brandon Marshall type, to me, will just stunt QB progress and development.
     
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  18. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Our team is filled with plenty of blue collar player, but talent continues to remain thin at the skill positions. Talented skill position players are the ones who decide close game, and make winning drives/plays.

    We're seeing a bit of an upward trend in this regard, but there is still a lot to be done.
     
  19. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Please stop. There is no way in the world this team is better without Marshall.
     
  20. Fin-Omenal

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    I'm not sure your understanding my stance.

    Please reread my posts in this thread.
     
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  21. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    You're arguing with the wrong guy, he agrees with you.

    But I'll be your huckleberry.
     
  22. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    true but ryan tannehill is much better off not having marshall on this team, the development of tannehill is the most important thing right now, as tannehill starts to improve, the talent around him will improve and the wins will come.
     
  23. Stitches

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  24. padre31

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    Offense reminds me a lot of Atlanta's prior to adding Gonzalez.

    Hartline is on pace for 1,300 yds, Bess will probably come close to 1k yds, but we lack that game breaker.

    Killed me today when were inside their 20 yd line and did not throw a single pass into the endzone.
     
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  25. Fin-Omenal

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    If there is a Julio jones type...I'd sure sell the farm ala ATL, who coincidentally are real SB threats.
     
  26. Coral Reefer

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    Nothing else needs be said.

    This new coaching staff has worked wonders this year with what we have up to this point.
     
  27. padre31

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    I REALLY want to upgrade of Clemons, he's not bad he just makes no plays most of the time.

    TBH, think we could use a couple of Cb's as well.
     
  28. Fin-Omenal

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    Absolutely. But a playmaker for Tanny needs to be a high priority. Not sure who's out there via FA.
     
  29. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    My bad.
     
  30. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Ah, once again, the easy way out.

    We can use another, long term, Wr, but think we should draft one rather then the usual Dolfan quick fix.
     

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