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Not sold on tannehill

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by pumpdogs, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    The dolphins have 0 explosive receivers. No seperation whatsoever, not to mention drops, not to mention bess falls down as soon as he ****ing catches the ball. Bess and hartline are good pieces they are good possession receivers, they are not vertical threats. Ireland knew this and did nothing to fix it, nothing.
     
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  2. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you pull up his rating against the bills,titans,colts.
     
  3. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    lol he played very well against Indy.
     
  4. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Except that Tanny is starting in his first year, while Henne had that issue for 3 years.
     
  5. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Did we win how many tds did he throw?Wow 1 td pass.yes I guess for him that is good game.
    I guess thats whats acceptable around here to shoot to be average or worse.
     
  6. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Luck just converted another 3rd and long.
     
  7. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Mark my words because i said the same thing about henne early in his 2nd year that he didn't have that it factor that makes a qb a winner.Trust me I hope I am wrong because before anything else I want to win but this guy is not he answer.
     
  8. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Yep you said it.Luck is elite and can make a defence look bad tannehill is not in the same mold you know a winner.
     
  9. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Why don't you. And get me a bag of peanuts too, since we're telling each other what to do.

    Thanks.
     
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  10. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Vick had the it factor too. So did Sanchez. So did Alex smith last year. Now look at them

    ...Or maybe their teams were just better...
     
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  11. Bpk

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    Why?
     
  12. Bpk

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    I happen to almost agree, though holding out a shred of hope, given his lack of experience.
     
  13. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I fear Phinsational may do something crazy today. Dolphins will drive a man to that.
     
  14. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    If only Tanny had a HOFer to throw to. Not to mention 2 stud tight ends.
     
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  15. Conuficus

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    Well away from here
    Some good liquor being consumed in this thread.
     
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  16. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    When did sanchez,vick,or smith ever had that it factor?Now ur just being silly.
     
  17. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is ridiculous. It's great to have strong opinions but you all need to stop getting so defensive over people disagreeing with you. This team's troubles go way further than Tannehill. And if you feel you can judge talent with only 13 Games worth of a sample size I know a certain Owner who would love to see your resume for a GM position.
     
  18. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    You know what man.Trust me I want to be wrong but I am so sick of the same old dolphins.Its gotten so bad i am longing for the wanny days at least we made the playoffs back then.
    I just don't see why everbody is so high up on this guy.He wasn't even that good in college.I guess they expect him to be good because he was the highest drafted qb we ever had.But jake locker,and ponder were reaches also thats what happens when teams are desperate for a franchise qb.
     
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  19. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    yes sir everyone's fault but his. Hey look at the bright side, Thill actually has the opportunity to set a record for the least touchdowns in the history of the NFL for a QB who has started 16 games.

    Just can't wait for some more of that

    Tick tock tick tock

    sound of the clock, 28 yrs and counting because it's ok maybe next yr

     
  20. Bofin

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    thought tanny did pretty well today. disappointing on those last two possessions but not too bad. he does some good things, had some good throws like fasano td, good timely scrambles, and stepped up into the pocket today which was nice to see. but does some not so good things,,,, see last two drives. he's a rook, could use some more talent around him, and needs to improve his game. if he still has some of the same issues towards the end of next season or into his third then he'll be another bad pick,, for now i just hope he gets better.
     
  21. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    hold on... a well thought out rational post on the subject... are you real?
     
  22. djphinfan

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    He doesn't change his arm angle very well, he's kind of stiff that way.
     
  23. djphinfan

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    Te dude has been pretty accurate about our receiver situation, don't think it's an argument anymore imo.
     
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  24. ToddPhin

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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLL. :wacko: Heaven forbid a HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER led offense scores 5 more points per game with a VETERAN offense including the best pair of tackles the NCAA has possibly ever seen than Tannehill's awesome 39 pts/game last year!!!! :wacko:

    There's this thing called DEFENSE. You should look it up..... you know, the 11 guys who try to stop the other offense from scoring. TAMU gave up 28 ppg last year. That's the biggest difference. The hundred dropped passes didn't help either..... but that would require you to actually watch a game.
     
  25. pumpdogs

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    Well david carr already set that record I believe it was 4 tds.But he can be 1 of 3 guys to throw 10 or less.Thats sad also.
     
  26. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Can you explain to me why you think he will be a franchise qb if that is your belief.I will be civil I just want to hear it.
     
  27. djphinfan

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    Playmaking ability..

    Wanting the ball in your hands when a play needs to be made..

    For example Russell Wilson..you want the ball in this dudes hands..he's going to either throw it where the play is designed to go, or he's going to make a play with his legs while keeping eyes downfield, if something is there, he will find the open man, if not, he will run for the first down..that's a lot of options for a successful play to occur.

    I'm hoping The speed of the game is affecting tannehills playmaking ability.
     
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  28. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Misplaced anger here. Blame the GM who's been here 5 years, not the rookie who's been here less than 1.

    Frankly, I'm surprised Tannehill is doing as well as he is, all things considered
     
  29. jw3102

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    I was not a fan of the Dolphins drafting Tannehill, but the fact is that he just doesn't have the play makers around him right now to be able to make a real evaluation of his ability as an NFL QB.
    Ireland did a piss poor job of drafting offensive players who could help Tannehill.

    The reality is that this offense may have the worst offensive talent it has had in the past five years. Based on putting points on the board, it appears to be the worst. In fact it has scored less points over 13 games this season than the Dolphins did last year. Last years the team started out 0-7, yet they were more effective on offense than this team has been so far.

    I have not been overly impressed by Tannehill and I'm still not sure if he will turn into a quality NFL QB or not. Yet until he actually gets some quality play makers around him, we really have no idea if he will be the future for the Dolphins or just another bust.

    I have absolutely no faith in Ireland being able to surround Tannehill with quality talent. Therefore the only chance Tannehill may have to be a success in the NFL is if Ross fires Ireland and hires a GM who knows how to select players who are legitimate play makers on offense. What the Dolphins have on offense right now is a bunch of very mediocre players at almost every position.
     
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  31. Onehondo

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    Yep, I say Tannehill is a bust, a dud, we should cut him now and we can get Matt Barclay in the draft and all of our troubles are over...sheesh! If we only had Luck, RG III, Nick Foles, Russell Wilson or Kapernick we would be on our way to the Superbowl. Our receivers, tight ends, running backs and offensive line would all be much better and we would finally have a great team. Its pretty obvious Tannehill is all the problem and only the smart, intelligent fans can see that why every one else can't see that. I don't know?
     
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  32. ToddPhin

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    There's really not a thing he can't do and can't do well...... and there are plenty 'a things he can do extremely well.... plus he has the best attribute an NFL QB can have ---- the brains, confidence, leadership, and unflappable composure to handle the chess match & 4th quarter aspect of the game...... and what he's doing as a rookie considering the crap he has to work with (which now extends to a rookie at LT and a backup at RT) is quite remarkable. What our offense is doing is placing the brunt of the weight on a rookie QB's shoulders, which unless you're Andrew Luck of the past 30 years, is ridiculously unfair..... but at least Luck has the surrounding cast to work with.


    Do you honestly expect a rookie to not be inconsistent when games are put on his shoulders week after week? You gotta be fair with your criticism, and expecting a rookie to carry his team on a weekly basis w/o a surrounding cast is far from fair. That's a recipe for repeated failure from any QB, let alone a rookie. For instance, look what's happening to Brees.
     
  33. Bpk

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    Find: Henne
    Replace With: Tannehill

    :)
     
  34. Bpk

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    I thikn that's true. He has little to no trouble when he is off the football field. Fully capable of unassisted living, in my opinion.
     
  35. Bpk

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    Seriously though, Tannehill has SO little experience that we have to at least give him until the end of next season, imo.

    He has all the tools you wish for. We have to see if they gel. So far, mixed results. Not a homerun, but not a bust, by any means.

    However, if we did change GM's, did draft Eifert and trade for/sign a good WR to round out the corps. If we signed a good guard and kept Long, who got healthy.

    Then next year we'd see what we really have. And if Ryan posted a low 70's QBR and didn't look the part by December 2013, we can start to talk about plan B. For now, PLan A and B and C is surrounding him with talent and coaching him up.
     
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  36. 2socks

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    Not saying he is like Henne. I championed Henne and will continue to Champion THill. I just do not see the "it" factor. Maybe He will develop, I hope He does. But for all intensive purposes we could easily be 10-3 or 11-2. We could have won every single game. Thill has stepped up in one of those games. It is what it is. The instinct part does not seem to be there. The little things that can not be taught....for example accuracy and timing with the receivers. it's just not there as evidenced today big time. 3 or 4 key over throws and we would have won this game. Same thing last week and against the Jets. Not saying others do not factor in. We need a difference maker at QB. Right now THill is not it.

     
  37. 2socks

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    and neither did THill for the second week in a row
     
  38. shouright

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    We need a scapegoat!
     
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  39. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Here we go again, turn it into it's Irelands fault. Man you guys won't have anything to post about if he's fired

     
  40. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I agree he doesnt have the talent around him but I look at russel wilson what big time play makers does he have on that team beside lynch?Brandon weeden has no great wr talent around him and he had going into the game today almost twice the tds and the browns front office is saying they are not sold on him to be thier qb of the future.
     

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