James Walker thoughts on McShays first Mock Draft pick for dolphins

I've seen Reggie do some extraordinary things this season, like close your mouth already things.

 

Jennings is still one of the leagues best route runners. Creates separation with best of them.

 

What's more important than the position the player plays is actually hitting on the pick.

Probably not a complaint in the cities of Houston/Tennessee for having a Hall of Famer like Bruce Matthews for 14 years, especially not from Warren Moon..... although most fans were probably furious at the time for passing on the draft's highest rated receiver,Willie Gault, considering the Oilers offense ranked 24th out of 28 and whose most productive receiver at the time was Mike Renfro (27 catches, 364 yards, 2 TD average over the previous 6 years).

Keep in mind Houston drafted HOF guard Mike Munchak at #8 the year before in 1982 despite fans probably crucifying the organization for passing on that year's #1 receiver, Anthony Hancock, who crapped the bed with 76 career catches for 1266 yards. What's ironic is the Oilers followed that up by surrounding Moon with the NFL's best 4-deep receiving corps at the time, and Moon and his run & shoot offense had plenty of time to carve up defenses in impressive fashion behind that strong Oline as he was only sacked 24 times/year over 6 years.


So, Houston took the best talent on the board and ended up with 2 HOF guards. Had they drafted based on desperation and over-drafted each year's highest rated receiver they would've ended up with Anthony Hancock & Willie Gault, inferior as a starting pair. Subsequently, Houston likely doesn't spend 2 top 32 picks on Ernest Givins & Haywood Jeffires, the offensive line would've sucked, and Houston's dangerous Run & Shoot likely never takes flight. Back to back top 10 picks on guard might've looked foolish at the time, but over the next decade Houston proved it to be genius. Second moral of the story: don't pass judgment on the future until the future arrives.


Here's an interesting Anthony Hancock article. What's interesting is how it parallels to today given that Miami fans would've been irate had we passed on him for an interior lineman, especially after drafting a 1st round lineman the year before.

 

So is every draft pick

 

It could also be stated, perhaps more correctly, that it is more important to hit on right player at the right position than to hit on any position. Your statement is rather broad, which is problematic when it comes to the science of drafting. I realize that you're not going in this direction, but simply letting you know how it could read -- judging by your beliefs, Al Davis struck well when he selected Sebastian Janikowski.

 

I remember that play well. Vontae bit on the out cut and never recovered but the TD was Yeremiah's fault IMO bc he sunk down to cover a crossing route and left the deep middle wide open. It was cover 3 iirc n Clemons had walked up on the line to play the run. Vontae has deep 3rd Bell has deep middle.

 

That makes two of us, mate.

I find you to be wrong here, strictly from my view that is. T'eo is a better linebacker than McClain is/was, is a better athlete than Spikes, is better downhill but not in reverse than Keuchly, better than Williams but not Beason.

 

Cant go wrong drafting a Seminole. Unless its Andre Wadsworth. Or Reinard Wilson. Or Alex Barron. Or Chris Weinke. Or, never mind....

 

A competent cap guy can structure a team friendly contract, I would think.

 

Is the "GM" in your user name a reference to your name or is it for General Manager?

 

The guy I want badly is Ezekial Ansah, because I think his ceiling with more coaching and experience is ridiculous, and with other DE's getting more attention we could nab him at the end of the first or high second if we have the nerve to wait that long. This is a guy who I think would really merit an 8-12th overall draft spot in a weaker DE year or with more experience.

To get him opposite Cam Wake... and let them play for the next five to seven years togehter would be beautiful to watch.

 

I meant as a first. I'm not against getting a WR just not round 1 when there isn't a great deal of separation.

 

I agree....... but I was under the impression that part was implied since we wouldn't look to hit on a player at a position of no need.... and I figured not taking kickers & punters in the 1st round was implied as well now that Davis has passed away.

My point was meant to be rather broad b/c there typically isn't just one "right position"... which is also my point- that there typically isn't just one "right position". hence the example I followed it up with. Pouncey being another. I think you read it too literally is all, Mr Alen.

 

both. His name is General Manager Johnson..... a cruel joke I know. His dad managed a Chinese joint specializing in General Tso's chicken when he was born. So now he goes by GM.




















PS: I can get away with saying this as GM and I are bros from different hoes.

 

I like Ansah as well and think he would be a nice compliment to Wake...... and I like Boomer's guy Anthony Barr a whole bunch too. I'd be happy with either of those 2 or Werner or Damontre Moore.

 

Thanks, Invid. There are actually a lot of good eyes on this site, my friend. If I had to name them all I'd end up forgetting someone and hurting their feeling so I'll just toss out a few. Rafael used to be a scout, and not just of the Cub variety. Boomer is in England ditching us for that other football.... and Alen is basically a prodigy. He was breaking down plays while still in diapers; unfortunately his teachers have to sit him closer to the door. CK, Boomer, and Alen run universal draft, and if those bums had enough time to put in, they'd make WalterFootball look like hacks. It's like comparing In-N-Out Burger to McDonalds. Everyone's been to Mickey Ds, but those who've experienced In-N-Out Burger know it's a superior product.

 

Agreed but we also don't want to waste a first round pick on a weak wr class.If the pass rusher is rated higher than the wr take the pass rusher.
Hopefully we find our true#1 in free agency maybe mike wallace or jennings if he is healthy.

 

This last line is so true.....anyone hat's eaten at In-N-Out Burger will agree, nothing beats In-N-Out Burger - THE BEST PERIOD !

 

They have ruled out that. Ireland has let it be known we are not going for a WR or TE in free agency.

 

I don't believe that was actually what was said. According to an official in the Dolphins organization, they will prioritize the draft but will consider an impact free agent if the value meets the talent. Not easy to do in Free Agency, but if the stars align between depressed demand and market surplus they might be tempted to take a look. I could see a guy like Jennings possibly being fairly affordable depending on certain circumstances.

My guess is absent an elite name you'll see Ireland wait the market out for some possible bargains.

 

Is this the same guy who thought the Giants drafting JPP was stupid because they had all that talent on the DL already?

 

I think the curious thing about McShay's mock draft is that Jarvis Jones goes the pick after the Dolphins selection.

 

He also has a very serious medical history.

 

My apologies.

Ansah is a wild beast. He's not as raw as many say.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/41889/321/hard-work-is-the-ansah

 

Ya, but I figured it was an atypical result behind a paywall, it might be interesting.

What do you think about the Dolphins going towards a more psuedo 3-4 fronts and putting someone in Misi's base defense position a more pass-rush oriented position? I think it seems like the path of least resistance in a way, but given they don't see to have done it with Misi or Lawson I'm unsure.

 

fun player to watch...naturally gifted.

 

I like In-and-Out Burger but don't think it is quite as good as Shake Shack (for the burgers) or Five Guys (for the fries).

 

Right on GM

 

what do you want him to say - its called not giving away your hand

 

Obviously the biggest need on this team are play makers on offense and defense. Neither side of the ball really has anyone who can make a play to turn a game around. My preference would be an impact WR, or TE with the Dolphins first round pick. On defense, another pass rushing DE or a ball hawking defensive back would also be good options.

Unfortunately, if Ireland is the one doing the selection for the Dolphins, I expect he will take another offensive lineman in the first round of the 2013 draft.

 

You mean like Jack Del Rio does in Denver with Miller?

 

I'm not sure where you are getting that from. I haven't seen that said anywhere.

 

Yeah, somewhere between that and Kamerion Wimbley in Oakland.

 

I said this in the draft forum, but Jarvis Jones medical history isn't as serious as most people think. Doctors cleared him to play because he wasn't at risk to hurt himself again, he didn't return to USC because that was their thing not the doctors.

 

I don't see anything wrong with it but where do you find such a player? Interestingly enough, the extensive use of fire zones has helped produce athletic, stand up rushers like Miller, who links with defensive mastermind and recently hired Fresno State head coach Tim DeRuyter.

One might recall it was DeRuyter that moved Miller to a two point stance after implementing his exquisite, LeBeauian 3-4 defense. I used to have a set of his teaching powerpoints, which were littered with fire zones. Before DeRuyter bolted, he made a similar move with Sean Porter, who could be what you desire in that position.

 

Could very well be correct.

 

Playmakers, pure BPA can lead to another OT.

 

That's ok. It's no coincidence that the leagues best teams -- Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and the Giants of New York -- are in the finales yearly are mainly BPA teams.

 

BPA is easy to say but the problem comes when you have two player rated the same. Lets go back in the past for an example. Jake Long and Matt Ryan. Both were rated very high, lets say both were graded at 96. IMO we have went the safe route time and time again. Long was the safe pick, but most would agree they would rather have had Ryan. I think most of the time you are splitting hairs so much with talent especially between different positions. I like BPA at a position of need.

Saying that we really dont have but a couple positions of need. QB and Center are about the only things we dont need right now.

 

What if you were to have same grades at a position of need?

I think the biggest mistake many make is that they separate BPA and need, when in reality they are intertwined.