27 confirmed deaths, most children. http://gma.yahoo.com/breaking-conn-...ng-report-151955384--abc-news-topstories.html This is so f**ked up.
This is just horrible, just horrible. I cannot fathom what goes on in someones head, that makes him/her decided "hey, let's just go and shoot up 27 human beings for no reason at all." Furthermore, this is gonna serve as added fuel for the "guns debate", which will be yet another cause for division in a country and government who can ill afford more division. Horrible.
If driving a car is a privilege, so should be owning a gun now. Not saying ban them, just provide the necessary proof and aptitude that you are not a complete ****ing scum sucking lowlife pig ****er cretin, and are not a hazard to your fellow man.
A psychotic man in China slashed 22 kids in an elementary school. 22 kids slashed. 22 kids injured. 0 dead. #guncontrol
An issue that gets swept under the rug is mental health. No sane peaceful normal person would do this. Just like with Aurora, Columbine, VT, i'm sure there is going to be something about him having past violence or mental issues, yet he's out roaming around freely and able to get his hands on a variety of powerful assault weapons. The parent of the shooter was just found dead at the home in New Jersey. There has to be some connection to CT. This is all very odd right now.
The shooter had an argument with the school principal. Not sure why it about what, or if he had a kid in the school.
Apparently it was his mother. The parent in Hoboken NJ must be the father or maybe a step-father. The mother worked as a Kindergarten teacher in the school, which means most of the children killed were 5 or 6 years old, as well as the mother. This is all from the local NBC news just now. About guns, I have no problem with people having small guns, such as the one Catwoman is holding in my sig, or hunters who are certified to have hunting rifles. But I don't like the idea of people getting highly powerful military style automatic weapons. I know the Aurora shooter had a gun that fired 200 rounds, and he got ammo off the Internet, which is also an issue.
I thought I made that very clear. You need to be competent to do both. You need to prove you can handle the responsibility, and are sane/normal enough to be trusted with these common objects that can KILL other people. Cars and guns should be handled similarly. Wanna keep firing that piece, pass the exam.
Thanks for the clarification. Isnt there already laws like that to restrict gun ownership to sane and law abiding people?
You want less of something, tax it. Tax guns and bullets at 1000% and you'll have less guns for nutcases to grab during a tantrum.
Shooting up schools and movie theaters with auto and semi-automatic weapons. Just what the founding fathers had in mind, eh boys?
Like a driving test, there needs to be a more thorough and intimate process. Gun shows need to either be banned or completely overhauled. There needs to be more gun regulation over sales and distribution. And possession of illegal firearms/illegally obtained firearms needs to carry a severe severe penalty to the point that it intimidates unlicensed people from carrying and selling illegally. In a decade or so, we can weed today's problems out. Thats just off the top of my head
looks like thats not him Ryan Lanza @Ryan__Lanza so aperently im getting spammed bc someone with the same name as me killed some ppl... wtf? but he does seem disturbed and depressed so its a honest mistake
Gun control is not the answer, but I see no way that gun control doesn't get brought up when discussing this. IMO, this problem is deeper than gun control. I feel it is a result of the 'you are all special' treatment kids get anymore. They hit the real world and realize that is not the case and lash out like children. They do not have the mental capability to deal with failure because they rarely experience it anymore.
I can guarantee this person should've been locked up in a mental institution rather that out roaming freely. There are always warning signs and people don't want to be bothered with it. Some people are too psychotic to be changed, think Charles Manson...that's someone who clearly has issues who there is no help for, so they should be locked away before they can commit these crimes. I think relatives think there is a stigma though, or they think something will never happen which is understandable since nobody can imagine this happening, but if someone is clearly troubled and may have psychological issues, then people need to do something about it. Like that mom who turned in her son who was possibly planning to shoot at a movie theater during Twilight opening week. I wish they wouldn't release the name and picture...but with the 24/7 news cycle that's always going to happen.
So shocked to see this just now... i was watching it unfolding this morning live on tv and it didn't seem like anyone else was killed, just the shooter. They say he'd shot two teachers at the time, one of them was critical and taken to the hospital. They showed the red and yellow tarps in the parking lot with nobody being treated. Lots and lots of people just standing around. Beyond shocked to see so many young kids died. It really hits home for me because I have a 1st and 3rd grader. We supposedly live in one of the safest towns in the US... but so was this place in Connecticut. Clearly all schools need to be revamped to protect the children inside. This nut job went into the admin office first, while the principal was making his Friday morning address. He shot them up first and then went into one of the kindergarten classrooms (which are usually very close to the admin building, one of the first rooms by the main entrance). At the very least, class rooms should have automatic doors that lock in case of these types of intruder emergencies and can only be opened from the inside. Schools in bad areas generally have armed security guards... why not have them at every school?
He killed his mother who was a teacher at the school. He also killed his father in Jersey before he drove to CT. http://www.wkyc.com/news/national/273656/22/NBC-News-identifies-shooter-as-Ryan-Lanza-24
Three recent shootings... Colorado movie theater, Oregon mall, and now this... all the killers were in their young 20s, out of work and / or recent college students.
Im in favor of some sort of fair competency standard as a prerequisite to gun ownership. I'm just not sure whats fair. If the goal is to prevent these type of tragedys I do not believe more gun restrictions will do that. Eliminate acess to guns and maybe bomb violence goes up but the killing does not stop. Bad people find ways to do bad things. Look at 9/11 they used airplanes as WMDs. We are a violent society and taking away peoples guns isnt going to fix that.
It works here in the UK... hell it works everywhere with gun control, maybe just try it? sure you might not be able to kill a burglar stealing your laptop but hey, maybe children wont die like this.
Schools aren't supposed to be, nor should they be, prisons. Unfortunately until we get serious about not only gun control, but mental health awareness and treatment and our culture of fear and violence that makes us as Americans simply more likely to kill each other than most other countries, stuff like this will continue to happen.
Guns are big business, and in America, dollars are more important than lives. Hell, it's easier for a crazy person to get a gun in this country than access to mental healthcare.
Yes, bad people will always find a way to do bad things but the likelihood of mass killings like this will absoltuely decrease. It's alot harder to make, plant and detonate a bomb. You're much more likely to get caught, or simply kill yourself before you hurt anybody else. Guns are easy. Beyond being much more readily available then they should be, it's impersonal. You can stand far away, shoot, and barely have to get your hands dirty. Sure, you could try commiting mass murder with a knife, but it's a different story to have to get right next to somebody and do it, and obviously you're much more likely to be subdued/killed before you hurt more than one or two people. Stricter gun control laws won't completely irradicate this kind of stuff but it will make it a lot rarer. And I'll take "a lot rarer" right now