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Daniel Thomas to the IR

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by finyank13, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    soft like tissue......

     
  2. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    Beat me to it. Also made some other roster moves.

     
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  3. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Wonder if this had as much to do with wanting to see young reserves as it did an injury. As in, I wonder if they could push him to play if they wanted, but they'd really rather see Lamar Miller and maybe Marcus Thigpen get some touches.
     
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  4. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    We've had two guys on offense hit the IR this week. I would agree in that we will most likely be seeing the young guys play the last two weeks.
     
  5. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I bet that is some motivation sure, but the guy did play 7 snaps and called it quits on Sunday...I dont think he was too eager to come back....

    Not to mention CK, I believe it is an audition of sorts for HIM too.....to see if he can win over the primary ball carrying duties after Bush leaves this year (if that were the case)...

    Okay do you think you have see enough of Thomas to say "Thats the #1 back" going into next year?? I certainly don't....
     
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  6. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ahh, another of Ireland's winners.

    At least Miller will get to play more.

    And perhaps Egnew might finally find himself activated too. In the immortal words of Homer Simpson "De-Fault, the two greatest words in the English language"
     
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  7. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Daniel Thomas is the very definition of "injury prone"

    And as a result should not be in the mind of Jeff Ireland when looking ahead to his 2013 RB Depth.

    We've suddenly become very thin there also.

    IMO, our depth in 2013 now looks like:

    RB: Lamar Miller
    RB: Jonas Grey
    RB: Marcus Thigpen
    RB: Daniel Thomas***

    ***gets hurt every 25th play
     
  8. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    That's a good point. He's one of the youngsters that ought to be auditioning.

    You've convinced me. He's just hurt. Again.
     
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  9. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    I doubt that. Thomas has as much to prove to Philbin and the coaches as Lamar Miller and Thigpen, IMO
     
  10. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    Ah, you said what I said first.

    good post
     
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  11. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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  12. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    This is why I've talked about tailbacks like Giovanni Bernard, Dennis Johnson, Johnathan Franklin and Ray Graham. I am as high on Jonas Gray as anyone and have been talking about him far longer than most, but we don't know anything about him at this stage, nor do we know much about Lamar Miller to be honest.

    And Marcus Thigpen, wake me up when he takes a single snap as an actual tailback because to date I haven't seen one. And that includes preseason.
     
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  13. jinx

    jinx Well-Known Member

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    Heckuva draft pick, Jeffy.
     
  14. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And we traded UP for this charachter as well.

    Nice.
     
  15. jinx

    jinx Well-Known Member

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    In addition to being injury and fumble prone, he's also a really terrible runner.

    So there's that.
     
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  16. LBsFinest

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    Boy can we draft!
     
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  17. NolePhin15

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    What ever happened to Steve Slaton?
     
  18. Larry Little

    Larry Little Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I still have no idea what Ireland saw in Thomas when he traded up for him. He's a bigger guy who can move laterally... I get that. However, he certainly doesn't play like a bigger RB. Meh.
     
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  19. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Or it could be that it is a 3-4 week injury and there's no sense in bringing him back, at this point...PO's are more of a pipe dream than reality (I mean, do you see Pitts losing out the season ??)... Likely has more to do with, as you said, looking at some younger guys...
     
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  20. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    He is a FA still. He worked out for Chicago and I believe Detroit but was never signed by either.
     
  21. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    At the risk of opening up a discussion which will result in hurled insults flying everywhere, even knowing that today we would probably have Ryan Tannehill on roster regardless...would we rather have Ryan Mallett than Daniel Thomas? That was sort of the big controversy. When the Dolphins traded up to the bottom of the 2nd round everyone was sure it was for Mallett.

    If Mallett were on roster in 2011...would he have played? Or would Matt Moore have played the season? Almost assuredly Tony Sparano would've been fired anyway. I'd say Mallett probably would've played toward the end of the year in the meaningless games, and I doubt he would have played particularly well. He was among those in that class I wouldn't have wanted to play too early, others being Blaine Gabbert and Colin Kaepernick. Jake Locker and Andy Dalton I just didn't like at all so I didn't really care when they played, early, late, whatever...if you have them on roster you made a mistake. That was my evaluation, that I'd rather have T.J. Yates. I certainly may have been wrong on Dalton. Or Locker. Or both. We've yet to really see on that.

    But either way Mallett probably would have played some, not particularly well, Sparano still fired. Would Philbin still have been hired? I think so. I doubt the presence of late 2nd round pick Ryan Mallett would influence the Dolphins' decision on who to pick at head coach. And if Philbin was still hired (and therefore Sherman) then I believe Ryan Tannehill is still the Dolphins' pick in the 1st round. I don't doubt that at all. So we'd be looking at Ryan Mallett as a long term backup, a guy you try and polish up a little bit and maybe trade off. Sort of like what NE is doing. Thing is, even accepting that (which is disappointing relative to the promsie Mallett had coming out), he'd probably still be more valuable than Daniel Thomas. Go figure.
     
  22. Stringer Bell

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    Daniel Thomas has more rushing TDs, and as many total TDs as Matt Forte this season.

    #scorer
    #howembarrassingforchicago'sgm
     
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  23. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    The running back version of "HOLY JOE TOLEDO"
     
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  24. GMJohnson

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    We got Thomas and Reggie Bush for a 2nd, 5th and Jon Amaya. Not bad.
     
  25. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Yet, there are some on this board who still think Jeff Ireland is a forward thinking GM. The guy that traded up in 2 consecutive draft for a plug and play position. The first year, when QB was still a desperate need. A Parcells disciple through and through.

    What makes matters worse is Daniel Thomas has been a complete non-factor, and Lamar Thomas rarely sees the field.
     
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  26. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Wait, huh?

    Isn't that like saying we got Ryan Tannehill, Anthony Fasano and Akin Ayodele for a 1st & 4th?

    #onehasnothingtodowiththeother
     
  27. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    "He's not fast and doesn't break tackles" was my impression while viewing his tape after he was drafted. I thought I was missing something. But sadly, I had not missed anything.
     
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  28. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Brandon Marshall vultured all his TD's :shifty:
     
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  29. ckparrothead

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    Haha. Those were my thoughts on him as well. Didn't foresee the injury issues though.

    I took a very close look at some of his tape and really tallied his average yardage after contact, cataloguing whether he was hit by small defensive backs, linebackers or linemen. This is all stuff that shouldn't have been necessary as I thought it was apparent just on a normal viewing of his tape, but this is a message board and nobody believes anything anyone says unless the proof of it is waved in their face, and even then there's at least a 50% chance it will be denied. But anyway. Even I was shocked how poor he was at breaking tackles and getting yards after contact, against linebackers and even against corners.
     
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  30. GARDENHEAD

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    Exactly. We thought Daniel Thomas sucked last year. This year, it was confirmed.
     
  31. schmolioot

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    So because Thomas is a touchdown vulture in the vein of Mike Tolbert that makes him better than Forte?
     
  32. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Funny, I remember thinking "Well, at least he's not injury prone" because he didn't miss a game at K-State. Oof.
     
  33. MikeHoncho

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    I was wondering how soon before this became a (another) Jeff Ireland thread.
     
  34. vt_dolfan

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    Honestly...Im not sure I wish we drafted Ryan Mallet...

    Torrey Smith has looked pretyy good for Baltimore...and Kyle Rudolph TE....we would have needed to trade up likely...so...who knows.
     
  35. alen1

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    In short: no.
     
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  36. djphinfan

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    Agreed...his presence should not keep us from actively pursuing and solidifying the position with an overall skillset..I know it's not high on most peoples list, but it has been mine, for me, with Thomas being injured all the time, me losing trust in Reggie, not seeing much from miller, and understanding what it could mean to a young rookies development, I'm willing to spend one of our five picks in the first 100.

    Imo, Giovanni is not a first round pick, don't think he has the speed, if Lamike James was in this draft, I would take him.
     
  37. Fineas

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    If it had played out that way, we'd have gotten 2 years of nothing out of Mallett. He'd have the "stink" of a 2nd round pick in whom the team had so little confidence that it took a QB in the first round the very next year. And if he played in the preseason here as poorly as he played in NE (despite it being one fo the most QB-friendly offenses in the NFL), the chances thta we'd ever recoup anything from that pick would be negligible. Thomas at least contributed a few good games and some TDs.
     
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  38. djphinfan

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    I tend to think we will see more of Reggie bush, this is a big game for the dolphins at home again, their still in the playoff hunt mode..To accomplish being in the hunt til the last game of the season I would consider an accomplishment for this team.
     
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  39. gilv13

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    Its most likely a move to get the younger players some more time (aka Lamar Miller). Which is the right move in my humble opinion. Dtrain is a backup, nothing more. Lamar Miller might have something, but there is only one way to find out.
     
  40. unluckyluciano

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    Did Daniel Thomas have an injury history before we drafted him?
     

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