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**The Official 2012-13 NBA Thread**

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Muck, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Fin-Omenal

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    Steve Francis..

    Lets get em
     
  2. MikeHoncho

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    Curry available? Might have to pull off a blockbuster to get Randolph back though. Jamaal Crawford might want big money. David Lee will definitely want big money. Maybe lure Starbury from his projects... build something formidable. FORM-I-DABLE.
     
  3. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Knicks fail and Jets fail in the same night? Its more likely than you think.
     
  4. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    You bet your ***.

    With Amare, you will find your real game. BS ball can only get so far.

    IF the Knicks incorporate Amare correctly, they will cease to be this facade, and become really good.
     
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  5. Fin-Omenal

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    This isn't 2007. Amare is finished.
     
  6. Den54

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    AMERICA!
    More like they got choked.
     
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  7. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Im curious, how would you incorporate Amare in to this offense? I've been looking for an answer to that since the middle of last year when it became apparent to me that the spacing between Amare and Tyson wasnt there? Amare shot 38% with Tyson on the floor and it looked like they simply needed to occupy the same area of the court to be effective. Tyson we know has very limited range but unless Amare became a knockdown shooter from 16-18 feet how does it work?
     
  8. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Bring Amare off the bench, play him every single minute that Chandler and Melo sit, along with 10 minutes with them, and you can carve out 30 minutes easy.

    When he is with them, play him in corner sets with Felton Initiating the offense. Play a double post offense with Melo and Amare and sit Chandler for stretches, to preserve him to close games.

    You just gotta convince Amare that he is not gonna be in the closing minutes of a lot of games.

    No reason that he can't be a poor man's Chris Bosh. (offensively)
     
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  9. Section126

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    It is gonna take Woody to drop some of his motion offense ideas, and run more Rileyesque sets.

    If Amare insists on still being a P&R player, it's not going to work.
     
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  10. Boik14

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    The problem isnt pairing him with Melo, he and Carmelo can play together. Last year Amare shot 46% with Carmelo on the floor without Tyson but the year before it was 49%. Both are below Amare's career 53% number but not so bad that it has to be ruled out.

    Sitting Tyson for stretches is not appealing at all. Hes such a rock on D and it further depletes an already poor rebounding team.

    Your solution isnt terrible, probably one of the best ones Ive heard but I hate the idea of changing an offense for one player when the offense has for the most part been fine (save for a game vs Chicago without Melo and the games vs the Rockets who the Knicks just match up poorly with). Plus the idea of reducing Amare to a poor mans Chris Bosh only depletes his trade value further.

    My thing is, it doesnt make sense to change a good system for an offensive player who doesnt fit. It makes more sense to find a player who fits the existing offense better and can move Melo back to SF with more frequency to help address the rebounding problem. Let Amare go somewhere where he can go do what hes good at...swap him out for Pau Gasol or something.
     
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  11. Section126

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    Boik, if Amare became a poor man's Chris Bosh, it's Heat - Knicks in the ECF's and that thing goes at least 6 games.

    Anybody notice that Chris Bosh is having a career year? The guy is morphing into Kevin Garnett.
     
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  12. Desides

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    Sure there is; you can't make a Beverly Hlls Bosh video out of Amar'e.

    [video=youtube;dGZXw6PqRfI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGZXw6PqRfI[/video]
     
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  13. Boik14

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    And if the Knicks went out and trade Amare for Pau Gasol who plays 5x as much defense as Amare does Im pretty sure they beat the Heat. Gasol knocks down higher rate of his mid-range jumpers, rebounds better and has a higher basketball IQ. Plus he wont punch a fire extinguisher before a playoff game or hurt his back dunking during warmups.

    I guess Im just not sold on the idea of STAT suddenly morphing in to a different player. I hope he does. I genuinely like and respect him for coming to NY when no one else wanted to take the money back in July 2010. Hes been a great offensive player this way his whole career. Hes scored the ball at a HOF rate throughout his career. How do you ask someone to change when they've been that effective and can he do it? Hopefully those sessions with Olajuwon over the summer for 2 weeks created a new and better STAT. :pray:
     
  14. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Yeah Glen Davis abused Love. Love and his lousy ****ing defense.
     
  15. Section126

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    Getting Gasol would only serve to piss Bosh off and make him remember that he owns Gasoft. He would specifically keep you from beating the Heat.
     
  16. Fin-Omenal

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    Bosh would rather be pissed ON than pissed OFF...:shifty:
     
  17. TiP54

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    Good Chalmers showed up today.
     
  18. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Not surprised by the outcome. Started off strong then just gave a poor effort in the 2nd half. Been a common theme this year for this team. Just awful rotation defense tonight to go with poor ball security.

    Miami's defense went on lock down late in that 2nd Quarter and never looked back. Great adjustments by Spo.
     
  19. MikeHoncho

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    Bro, that was champagne. Almost positive.
     
  20. Section126

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    Lebron James is the only athlete in any sport that can play a disinterested game and still play at a all-star level.

    Minnesota is really good btw. They need health though.
     
  21. Fin-Omenal

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    I think many athletes who have long seasons tend to get uninterested for games against teams such as the Wizards or the T-Wolves ecspecially.

    Baseball players come too mind, you have world champions playing poker eating fried chicken and drinking beer in Boston. Dog days of summer, guarantee you most of those guys are far from dialed in.
     
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  22. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Just for that **** talk FinO Minnesota is going to beat the Knicks.
     
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  23. Ozzy

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    They're a pretty good team so they surely could. Whenever they can play a good amount of games with a healthy roster, they will surely move up in the standings
     
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  24. Fin-Omenal

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    Take your Ronnie Seikly luvin asses back to Jersey ya bums!
     
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  25. Boik14

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    No Novak, No Sheed, No Camby, No problem. Not a bad night for Melo Tyson and JR. 31 for Melo and Tyson took control of the paint.
     
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    Tyson Chandler is playing great all around basketball, some of his passes tonight were impressive.

    And I really wish JR Smith would save his hot streak for May.
     
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  27. BuckeyeKing

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    2 more Wolves out for the year. Josh Howard torn ACL was cut, and Malcolm Lee cartilage damage in right knee likely out for the year.
     
  28. MikeHoncho

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    Spiffy looking Thunder uniform. Well, at least, better looking than the regular garbage they wear.
     
  29. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    So what all have I missed this NBA season other than Andrew Bynum being a bust and Jrue Holiday being the best pg in the league. Looks like Evan Turner has finally arrived too averaging 19/7/5 over the last month. Definitely gives me hope for the future if, and that's a huge if, Bynum returns.
     
  30. Anonymous

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    You missed a lot if you think Holliday is the best PG in the league.
     
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  31. Fin-Omenal

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    You missed even more if you thought Andrew Bynum was going to be healthy. Dudes a career hurtie
     
  32. Alex44

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    Some confidence from Lebron. Love it.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/mia...ays-lead-league-scoring-not-my-job-miami-heat
     
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    Not even a huge kobe fan but I jumped out my chair watching this what a game
     
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    I wasn't being serious but he has started establishing himself as one of the best.
     
  36. Stitches

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    He's an awesome defender, I know that much.
     
  37. Fin-Omenal

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    4th quarter was Melo time.

    Another step toward league MVP.
     
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  38. Boik14

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    Holiday has become one of the top 5 PG's in the league. Id argue that probably after CP3, Rondo, Nash, and Westbrook in that order. And for those wondering I dont consider Rose a PG because like AI was, hes a scoring guard playing PG because of his height. Turner still battles inconsistency. His averages may look good but he doesnt do it every night. If Bynum can stay healthy I think Philly has a top 4 team in the East after Miami, NYK, and a healthy Bulls team. To me the one thing they lack is a go to scorer on the wing; maybe Turner will eventually be that guy but he not right now.

    Dude, I was driving home listening to that game on the radio and went inside after the Woodson technical with NYK down 6 with like 3 minutes and change to go figuring "****, Knicks are losing their cool, theyre not winning this game". I go inside get my normal greeting from my dog, Melo, in time to turn the game on see the Knicks won by 3. Thats a game in the past they definitely would have lost. Good win simply because they should have lost. They had no business winning that game playing as lackadaisical, sloppy and disinterested as they played all game. Melo, Felton and Tyson bailed them...which is what god players are supposed to do on nights like this.
     
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  39. Alex44

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    I can see Melo as MVP because without him NYK don't even make the playoffs. I do think Lebron is having a better season still though. Scoring isn't everything.

    I mean if you factor in assists Lebron is responsible for far more points a game than Melo, out rebounds him and is one of if not the best defenders in the NBA.

    Not to mention Lebron is shooting at an 6% higher clip than Melo.
     
  40. Mainge

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    The MVP doesn't always go to the better player, or even to the guy having the best season. See 2011.
     
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