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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by 2socks, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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  2. Steve-Mo

    Steve-Mo 'Saban' Guy

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    If they tag freakin Brian Hartline...
     
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  3. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    actually the tag on Hartline is 10.357 mil.

    So what do you do with Hartline if they can not come to an agreement? He has played for close to the league min for 4 years and surely he will be looking for 4 - 5 mil a season. We are absolutely crazy if we pay it to.

    I would trade him if that were the case.

     
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    calfishman Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  5. Jagfish

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    Will Ross give Jeff an open check book? Mando had a snipet in one of his blogs about overhearing Jeff telling somebody that he had picks and cash, so hopefully Ross is cool with spending where needed. Philbin seems less enthusiastic about free agency.
     
  6. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I would like us to draft nothing but wide receivers this year. See where that gets us?:shifty:

     
  7. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    You're misinterpreting the statement. "And cash" refers to the ~$50 million in cap space the Dolphins will have in 2013 due to expiring contracts.

    Ross has given Ireland an open check book every season since Ross has owned the team. This is not an issue.
     
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  8. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I really think what makes or breaks the 2013 Miami Dolphins is whether we spend 25% of the cap money on one player - Jake Long. I say we let him walk if necessary and take our chances in free agency. We could always draft his replacement in the second round.

     
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    I just hope that is the real deal. The stadium needs major upgrades and after the Marlins debacle nobody is thinking about public funding, the attendance has been very lack luster. Does Ross want to throw in another 50 million in one off season? I just hope he is all aboard if Jeff wants to put out the cash.
     
  10. Jagfish

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    Yeah, Jake should come down to reality over reputation. If the Bears or Cards want to pay him like Joe Thomas so be it.
     
  11. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    As far as I know, no player in the NFL constitutes 25% of his team's salary cap. Peyton Manning might have reached that status had he stayed with the Colts, but that was a lump $28 million bonus payment, not a pure cap hit of $28 million.

    Salary cap space has nothing to do with operating revenue.

    And by the way, the Dolphins get all of the money they need to pay contracts through the league's TV deals with CBS, NBC, FOX, and ESPN. By default, every NFL team has enough money to pay 100% of the salary cap every year.
     
  12. Jagfish

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    Yes, but money is money no matter how you slice it. It all comes out of the Ross vault. Look at Mike Brown he gets TV money and was/is notoriously cheap, teams are notr required to spend to the cap. Hell look at the Pittsburgh Pirates the profitable farm system for the rest of MLB. It boils down to what (if any) restraints an owner puts on his GM.
     
  13. Steve-Mo

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    I think he may have meant 25% of the $47 million in free space.
     
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  14. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    First that is not what I said. 25% of the room we have under the cap. Which most keep saying is 50 million. It's not 50 million its 47.3 I believe with 5.5 that we can carry over from this year. Of course that is if the number is 121 million for next year.

    Long is currently making 12.8 million a year and if they intend to keep him they would have to negotiate a new deal. A new deal would be similar numbers. So yes we would be spending 25% of the cap room we have on Jake Long

    Say good bye..........

     
  15. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I did thanks Bro

     
  16. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    What would be fair for this guy right now.

    I would say he is a solid #2 receiver, who we should keep if we could get him on the cheap. 3 - 4 Million a yr would be nice. Unfortunately this is his pay day and we may very well see Brian Hartline for the last time as a Miami Dolphin tomorrow at 4:25 pm. I think he will want 7-8 a yr Minimum.

     
  17. Desides

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    You have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but you don't.

    No, the money does not all come out of the Ross vault, it comes from the TV deals and is split evenly among the 32 teams;
    Whether or not Mike Brown is cheap has no bearing on whether or not he gets TV money: he gets TV money because the Bengals are an NFL team;
    Teams actually are required to spend to 99% of the cap according to the new CBA, albeit with some accounting loopholes;
    MLB's revenue structure has no bearing whatsoever on the NFL's revenue structure, in part because NFL teams do not individually negotiate TV rights the way MLB teams do;
    And lastly, the last four seasons have proven that Ross puts no financial restrictions on Ireland, otherwise Ross never approves making Brandon Marshall the highest paid player at his position, just as an example.
     
  18. Perfectville_USA

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    Miami Herald says we are going to tag Hartline, no way the Herald has ever been wrong in the past.
     
  19. djphinfan

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    Do you have the link?...not that I need it.
     
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    Glass can rust?
     
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    AMERICA!

    It will look rusted when he is done.
     
  22. Conuficus

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    No,......just ****ty.
     
  23. Larryfinfan

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    I think the reference was that there is a lot of cap room where Irish is foaming at the mouth. As to what he can spend in FA, as to bonuses, I don't have the impression that Ross is a tightwad at all.
     
  24. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    I think it's general speculation that Hartline and Smith are candidates for the tag by the PBP, not that it is etched in stone.... It's not a far-fetched idea, but I don't think it's something coming from the Fins themselves...

    This article referred to us by Deep Pockets is a reiteration of the this article (http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy)... just some banter of what the fins have available to them this coming offseason and what some of the options are...

    Of course, if Irish makes the right choices, in a year or two this whole conversation will be moot....
     
  25. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    But will Ireland make the right decisions?
     

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