ESPN's TOTAL QBR: Comparing Tannehill to all recent QB's first season as a starter

Being in Afghanistan I don't have the luxury of seeing the games like many of you do back home. When it comes to interceptions, the one thing that really chaps my *** is when a quarterback puts the ball on the money, the receiver misses the pass, deflecting it in the air (or deflected at the line of scrimmage), it's intercepted by the opposing team and it counts as an interception against the quarterback.

I am curious for those of you who are able to watch the games, how many times has this happened to Tannehill? How many of Tannehill's interceptions should have actually been completions?

 

And here's a complicated response:

In other words, although the stats are initially based on subjective observations, they can ultimately possess more reliability and validity than those observations.

That may have been a more sophisticated response than you wanted, but it's the right one IMO.

http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Cronbach/construct.htm

 

Yeah, we'll see if anybody's been "observing" that closely, and if so, what sense they can make of the "data" they derive from those observations.

 

this does nothing for me. It's almost as if people are using stats to gauge how good a player can or will become. Bottom line is that you just never know. Troy Aikman was horrible his rookie year, Peyton Manning threw like 28 interceptions. Bobby Hoying led the Eagles to the playoffs only to suck complete *** the following season and be out of the league. Jake Plummer looked like the second coming of Joe Montana early in his career before he ended up just being an average QB.

 

Predictive validity is different from construct validity. Ryan Tannehill's QB rating can validly tell you how well he's playing now, without necessarily telling you how well he's going to play in the future.

 

I like Tennehill, think we have a very good young QB. I was a doubter when we drafted him, because of only playing in 18 games. Love his arm and quick release and the kid works hard and loves the game of football. We are in good shape for the first time in year's at the postition.

 

I thought that statistics were objective and the interpretation of statistics was subjective.

 

after watching him so closely by all of us, that release is quick, not a lot of wasted motion in the setup and backswing..has a bit of Marino in the release, especially when he steps up in the pocket, which is an element of the game he must master in the offseason..must get quicker, all over, feet, upper body, explosiveness, would love to train this kid this offseason, if I was the dolphins I would hire someone to sleep with him and his wife.lol

I do wonder where he will work out this summer on his craft, will he go back up to Weinke, or keep it local, maybe at the chambers institute, I really think the physical training is what he needs to do the most this offseason.

 

I volunteer for the sleeping with his wife part!

 

Sure. I'm humiliated. Can't you tell?

 

Ah OK, I guess that's the one everybody neglected to read before they got so high on Chad Henne's future.

 

Well then I'm surprised I'm not on your ignore list already.

 

Not that many people were high on Henne's future.
Poor example

 

ok.

 

So why do you suppose they bother assigning any numerical values to their observations?

 

I'll pass, thanks. I'll just leave you stuck here.

Also, I'd suggest you put me on your ignore list, since you seem to have so many problems with my overall point of view.

 

No running game, offensive line getting pushed back and no seperation by the recievers today, we have way more problems then just Tannehill people.

 

Interesting stats. I think the jury is still out on RTH. Most every expert didn't think he would see the field for a year or two. I would say anything above that is positive. We can look at stats all we want but it's hard to predict his learning curve.

Plus, how much does your surrounding cast impact those numbers? Against Buffalo, he had 2 TD's dropped.

He's certainly missed his share of throws but I think we can all agree he had one of the worst supporting casts in the NFL. On top of that, our running game really struggled in the last half of the season. He didn't have a legit red zone threat or a WR that could stretch the field. We had 2-3 WR's that saw a lot of action that wouldn't have touched the field for 25+ other teams.

In terms of the eyeball test, there were some games were he looked lost out there. Then others he was throwing lasers in between defenders were only his receivers could catch it.