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I wonder if Brandon Marshall and Vontae Davis.....

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by canesz06, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. ether79

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    I have personally been to several, and he was horrible this year. Period. Even after today every intelligent( not many) Colts fan I know lament that trade.
     
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  2. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The bolded part you replied to was a rhetorical question. :lol:
     
  3. dont fumble

    dont fumble Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wonder if Rick Spielman will send thank you cards to all the Miami fans who were calling for his head... Congrats to him for building a playoff team.
     
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  4. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Remember when Spielman was talked about around Dolphin land like Ireland is now?
     
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  5. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yes. Since the time Spielman was the GM, we have changed the coaching staff, umpteen players, the front office, the GM and the owner, some of them several times. Yet we still suck. Anyone have the solution? Do we have to move the team to Los Angeles, maybe?
     
  6. Stringer Bell

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    Change the coaching staff, umpteen players, the front office, the GM and the owner, some of them several times.
     
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  7. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    Draft someone who can impact a game like Adrian Peterson.
     
  8. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    Marshall has more touchdowns then our entire receiver corp.

    Marshall has 1 less touchdown than Tannehill threw for all year long.

    The Davis trade is debatable but I will say this Davis is leaps and bounds better that SS24. Ireland traded the wrong guy.

    I love my Dolphins but these two stupid moves caused us a playoff game or two.

    Cutting Chad Johnson was another stupid move, knowing we had no #1 or #2 receiver like he said in the Hard Knocks show he still managed to cut the 1 player we had that could of helped.
     
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  9. CitizenSnips

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    **** that. They were 7-1, on top of the world, and they just fell flat on their faces. They are far more embarrassed today then we are.

    know how to utilize him? You mean not use anyone else? Become completely 1 dimensional and hope your diva wr gets you to the playoffs? He didn't.

    Marshall is not a winner. I think boik said it best, fantasy football HOF'er
     
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  10. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree. He would have helped us this year and will always put up stats but he isn't a championship caliber player. He had what, 6 dropped TD's last year. I didn't watch many Bears games this year but I saw him drop a critical TD against the Packers when the game was tight.

    It reminds me of a Bill Walsh Quote paraphrased as, "i'd rather have a team full of super bowlers rather than pro bowlers."
     
  11. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    You guys talk about B Marshall as if you know him, like you hang out with the guy every day. The man just wants to win football games, he's no TO or Ochocinco he goes out there and gets open, he's Cutler's favorite target and if he were here he would of been Tannehill's favorite target, you know why? BECAUSE HE CATCHES THE BALL! I know its a hard concept to grasp.
     
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  12. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's worth noting that the Bears offensive production is virtually the same as it was last year...with Caleb Hanie and Luke McCown playing a 3rd of the season for Jay Cutler.

    You can't be successful making one guy your entire offense, but you can't keep Brandon Marshall happy without it.
     
  13. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Chad Johnson is a much better human being and team mate than Brandon Marshall is on his best day.
     
  14. hazed819

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    No way man... you dont know what your talking about. Chad Johnson on his time off runs around flaunting and BSing. Partying his life away, making reality TV shows and now apparently making sex tapes with escorts lol.

    Brandon Marshall is a very humble guy with some psychological issues. He spends his time working on his collection of classic muscle cars. He is a misunderstood man people should stop buying the BS the media sells you and do your own research.
     
  15. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Brandon Marshall got a team mate killed, and beats women like some dudes go fishing on the weekend

    Brandon Marshall looked at Chad Johnson headbutting his wife and considered it rank amateurism, without style of substance.
     
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  16. CaribPhin

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    Me and this thread:

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  17. Stringer Bell

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    I think that is the problem there.
     
  18. hazed819

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    My point exactly... you can assume what you want based on what your 'hear'

    Brandon Marshall got no one killed, some chump with a 'gangsta' complex killed that man.
     
  19. hazed819

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    That doesnt make him a Diva or bad person.
     
  20. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    The dudes been caught in some crazy situations. Wife stabbed him. Beat his ex. Sone woman at bar gets punched. Team mate dies.

    The common denominater here is brandon Marshall. He may not be completely at fault but don't call him innocent.

    As for the player, he made it as far as we did this year.
     
  21. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    They were trying to kill Brandon Marshall because he acted like an idiot in a night club. But hey, he learned his lesson, right? He surely won't get in any other altercations in night clubs!

    I can only judge them based on what is available to me.
     
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  22. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    Exactly and that's what he will always be. He progressed little to none from his rookie year to now.
     
  23. UCF FINatic

    UCF FINatic The Miami Dolphins select

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    Lets wait until the offseason to see who got the better deal in the Marshall trade. I don't know if he can make it through an entire offseason without one slip up...
     
  24. Rocky Raccoon

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    The one thing about the Brandon Marshall trade that no one ever talks about is the fact that he is not Philbin's kind of player. Marshall is a very good player but he's selfish and a "me" player to the point where it's reared it's ugly head countless times on the field and on the sidelines.

    People want to blame Ireland for getting rid of him because it's the easy route, when IMO, Philbin is the one who didn't want him on HIS team. Especially with a rookie QB.

    Now, can you blame Ireland for not replacing him? Sure can, but I believe Section reported that he tried to trade for Jeremy Maclin and Nate Washington. So it's not like he completely ignored the situation. I'm not making excuses for him, as Ireland certainly deserves blame for the continued run of mediocrity. I'm just trying to see the entire picture as it is.
     
  25. Anonymous

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    There are reports that stated he tried to make peace with the guys before they went and shot up the car.
     
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  26. ether79

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    If OchoCinco couldve helped that much why did not one other team even sniff him?
     
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  27. jdang307

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    I think Median is the term you are looking for. Average doesn't work there.
     
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  28. jdang307

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    They lost Johnny Knox for the whole year, and Alshon Jeffery for a good part of it. You conveniently left that out.

    Imagine the team if they didn't have Brandon. Losing Knox, and Jeffery.

    It would look almost like our receiving corps.
     
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  29. VanDolPhan

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    My god some of you are extremely short sighted. I swear you would support a serial killer if he put up numbers.

    Remember these comments as the offseason drags on. Marshall's implode time of the year. Also remember he is one strike from a year suspension.
     
  30. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    It's hard to judge Spielman's time here when he only had final say on personnel for one season. Granted 2004 sucked, but still, it was only one year. Taking Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees, was Wanny. Taking Eddie Moore over Anquan Boldin, was Wanny. Hesitating to pull the trigger on a trade for Hasselbeck, was Wanny.
     
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  31. MrClean

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    Sounds like Sean Smith. Davis was better than him every year they played together. He was better than Smith in 2012 and he'll always be better than Smith.
    I'm not saying Davis had a great season, not at all, but the cluster f^ck our corner situation turned out to be in 2012, IMO, we sure could have used him. The snaps he'd have gotten had he stayed, were taken by Wilson and Stanford. Were you happy with their performances in pass coverage?
     
  32. MrClean

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    According to PFF he wasn't the only one covering Johnson. They had him being thrown at 5 times covering Johnson and allowing 3 completions for 37 yards. Cassius Vaughn was on Johnson more according to them. He allowed 4 catches in 7 throws into his coverage, for 32 yards.
     
  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    On passes into his coverage, the passer rating was 31.8. He was thrown at 8 times total, allowed 4 catches, for 53 yards, 3 yards after catch, a long of 21 yards, no TDs, 2 ints, and 1 pass defensed.
     
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  34. shouright

    shouright Banned

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    The distribution is perfectly normal. Mean and median are the same.
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    No they aren't. Median is the middle number in a group of numbers. Mean is the average of a group of numbers.
    Sometimes the result is the same but not always. If you had as a group of numbers, 5, 15, 21, the median is 15. The mean is 13.667
     
  36. shouright

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    http://www.math.fsu.edu/~wooland/hm/Unit2Module10/Unit2Module10.html
     
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  38. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Johnny Knox was not lost this year, and nor was Jeffery very good.

    Nor would those two things equal out to Caleb Hanie playing for as long as he did.
     
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  39. CD13

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    I love the VD trade...we got great value. He is a second corner, pretty decent one, but a second. Who cares. I do though, miss Brandon. I would have loved seeing him with Tanny.
     
  40. shouright

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    Here was the original statement by me that you responded to:

    So yes, they're not always the same, but when the distribution of data is normal, they are.
     

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