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Was This A Successful Season?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bpk, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    With Charlie ****ing Whitehurst. Safe to say they had a decent supporting cast outside of QB.
     
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  2. jdang307

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    Two years ago.
     
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  3. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    You guys are full of crap. I see a few folks in the 2-4 win prediction column....still bemoaning. Sorry kiddies. You don't get the right to say 2-4 wins and not be happy with 7.
     
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  4. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    It looked to me like our defense couldn't wait to get back to the sunny climes of south Florida.
     
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  5. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Is this serious? They sucked less than some posters thought they would, and according to you, they should be happy with that? If someone predicted 1 win, and we win 2, that someone has to be happy with it? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day. Ok I haven't heard much today (was snowboarding all day) but still.

    Super bowl would have been successful. Losing the SB. AFC Championship. Playoffs. Division. Wild Card. Hell, I'll even lower it to a winning season, as a successful season.

    Anything less, and it would be uncivilized.

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  6. gamblerx

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    7-9 with rookie QB and HC with no playmakers on the squad - not bad.
     
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  7. oakelmpine

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    This is always the attack - it's passive/agressive but its an unwarrented attack on a fellow poster who is just giving his honest opinion.
     
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  8. oakelmpine

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    DJ one thing you are always right about and that is the stadium issue and I wish we could get you into a meeting with Ross & Dee
     
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  9. oakelmpine

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    Not to those that suffer from Blindus Homeritis. Their prefered course of action is to bury their heads in the sand and sing Kumbaya
     
  10. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    The fact that Tanne played the whole season, yeah.
    New Head Coach doesn't embarrass us, 'kay
    At least four rookies got significant playing time.
    Pretty good effin' start.


    I wonder how many people who think it wasn't a successful season under the circumstances, vehemently decided it's a bad idea to throw the season. Man, we were so close to having JP Losman ride out the season for us last year. But noooo, Sparano had to save face in a bunch of worthless games.

    Just not having to listen to or see Sparano qualifies this season as priceless to me...
     
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  11. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Hell no, it wasn't successful. Succesful is making the playoffs. It wasn't even a promising season, which would be one where we at least improved. We didn't.
     
  12. rdhstlr23

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    No. Fire Jeff Ireland. How he has a job is absolutely mind blowing. If I didn't hit goal 4 years in a row, I'd be gone. They haven't improved by more than 2 games during his entire watch. Is he bad? No. However, he's made it through an ownership change, VP change, coaching change, players shuffling and we still aren't winning. Get him out of Miami!!
     
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  13. rdhstlr23

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    We had a SOS less than .500 and still couldn't muster an 8-8 season. It's time! Fire Jeff Ireland!!
     
  14. jw3102

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    This team scored less point on offense and gave up more points on defense than the 2011 Dolphins. They lost six of their last nine games and they were completely over matched yesterday against the Patriots. Other than giving Tannehill a year experience, I don't see that there was anything successful regarding this season.

    The Dolphins continue to remain a very mediocre franchise and as long as Ireland is the person responsible for selecting the players for this team, I don't see them raising above this level of mediocrity. Perhaps when the Dolphins once again fail to make the playoffs in 2013, the Ireland supporters will finally realize that he is the real problem with this organization.
     
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  15. oakelmpine

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    :up: :knucks: :hi5: :theman: :thanx: :punk::punk: :party:
     
  16. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He's posted that same exact thing at least thirty times. You surely have seen it before.
     
  17. CD13

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    Yes, have good coaching, and a QB. Can't say that since Johnson and Marino.
     
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  18. oakelmpine

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    Not really I have a wife, children and grand children that I have to be at the beck & call of so I miss a lot of what gets posted here.
     
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  19. Disgustipate

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    They've seen it too.
     
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  20. Rouk

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    Initial thought on this is the season wasn't successful mainly because we found a way to lose to beyond horrible jets and bills teams. Those were just backbreaking loses that taints the season for me 1 more win from last year you can say is progress but when playing a super soft schedule like we had this year these kind of losses cant happen.
     
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  21. Perfectville_USA

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    I think our owner Mr Ross should give all the player's participation trophy's. Maybe next year we should not keep score? After all some pro football player's and coaches could get there feelings hurt.
     
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  22. PSG

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    No. Anything short of making the playoffs is a failure.
    Alot of guys will sugarcoat things because thats what they do or how they cope, I guess.
    You can rationalize things any way you want to convince yourself it was a successful season, but I guarantee you not a single person in the Dolphins locker room think this was a successful season.
     
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  23. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Awful black and white way of looking at it IMO.
     
  24. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    If you say so.
    But success is a black and white thing, IMO.
    Unsuccessful people are good at rationalizing why they aren't successful.
     
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  25. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    There are levels of success. I think you need to look at expectations then decide what is successful. If the Patriots made the playoffs then lost their first game, would that be considered a successful season? Likely not.

    Every locker room is expecting Super Bowl or playoffs, they're competitors... simple as that. I don't know if they would be able to objectively determine how successful their season was.

    The Dolphins won more games than many expected, their rookie QB who was supposedly a project started all 16 games and looked promising, and we found some gems on our roster (ie, Reshad Jones). Was it an extremely successful season? No... but I'd say more successful than unsuccessful.
     
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  26. Stitches

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    And what determines whether someone is successful exactly?
     
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  27. jw3102

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    Your wrong, I have probably posted it at least 50 times. I figure if I just keep posting it, all the Ireland supporters will eventually see the real problem with this organization. The overall lack of talent on this roster is directly related to the person responsible for selecting this talent and that is Ireland.

    Sorry if you think I am stuck on pointing out this teams main weakness, but I will continue to do so until Ireland is fired or he proves me wrong.
     
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  28. PSG

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    To each his own, I suppose.
    While some teams - the really good ones - just making the playoffs might not be good enough.
    But at least making the playoffs should be the minimum requirement for a successful season for every team.
     
  29. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I'm not sure what the bolded part of my quote and what you asked have to do with each other.
     
  30. mlb1399

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    I expected 5-6 wins in a rebuilding year with a raw, rookie QB and head coach. I was pleasantly surprised by the results of the season, especially considering we were 2 FG kicks away from a winning record. We had a pretty tough schedule playing 4 of the better teams in the NFL.

    We knew going into the season that our rookie QB was really raw and had little help around him. If we were going to have any chance, we needed to give him a good running game which we did not.

    We saw the negative effects of constant change as our OL were not well suited for zone blocking.

    I liked Philbins attention to detail and his aggressive playcalling. I didn't like some of the personnel decisions(NE not having Wake in) and not being more creative with getting Bush the ball. I did like how they started using RTH's athelticism towards the end of the season.

    I liked RTH's strong arm, his ability to have a short memory, stand in the pocket and take hits and his calm demeanor. I didn't like his downfield accuracy when we had wide open WR's and his lack of feel for the game.

    I feel better about our situation than I have felt in a long time. I think we finally have someone who understands what it takes to win a football game, who understands the character that's needed to build a winning culture and I feel like we have some good pieces. We still have some glaring holes and this offseason is make or break for Ireland.

    I have my doubts on him but he has had some nice picks with Pouncey, Jones, signing Wake, Hartline, getting Bess as undrafted rookie. He stayed away from Orton and Flynn. I don't know who to blame for Long, White and some other picks. He was the GM so he has to take it. These last 2 drafts will define his legacy here. If RTH, Martin, Vernon and Miller become key players along with 4-5 players from this draft, then he has proven himself. If not, he needs to go.
     
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  31. ckparrothead

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    Why?
     
  32. Stringer Bell

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    This is ridiculous.
     
  33. ckparrothead

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    Who specifically? If you don't mind my asking.
     
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  34. Stitches

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    You said unsuccessful people are good at rationalizing why they aren't successful, so I was wondering what determines whether those people are successful or not?
     
  35. PSG

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    Why?
    Every person (or team for the purposes of this conversation) sets goals. They either achieve said goals or the don't.
    Every teams MINIMUM goal should be to make the playoffs.
     
  36. ckparrothead

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    My exact preseason modeling had the Dolphins at 6.5 wins. Because I saw this team as more likely to slightly under-achieve than over-achieve, I picked 6-10 instead of 7-9. I should have picked 7-9 instead of 6-10. By taking care of business against the Bills and Jaguars, and coming up with surprising victories against the Bengals and Seahawks, they over-achieved even despite perplexing losses against the Titans and Cardinals.
     
  37. ckparrothead

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    But the point has already been made, and should be emphasized, that the Dolphins faced a strength of schedule UNDER 0.500 and yet still couldn't go 8-8.

    They played 9 games against teams with sub-.500 records. They had plenty of opportunity to show their talent level if indeed it was competitive.

    Yeah you can talk about "bad breaks" in close losses to the likes of the Cardinals, Jets and Colts. But then what about the "good breaks" in close wins against the likes of the Seahawks, Bengals and Rams? I always find that to be specious reasoning.
     
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  38. PSG

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    Depends what their goals were.
    But at a minimum you should be a contributing member of society by being able to hold down a job, provide for your family and stay out of jail.
     
  39. Pandarilla

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    Nelson Mandela, you piece of ****!...

    They hand over the Tesla blueprints, I start contributing.:shifty:
     
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  40. Alex13

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    which almost equals his college output in one season....and this with the big boys
     

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