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Rotoworld: Phins have every intention to pursue jennings, wallace ,bowe

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CrunchTime, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Not even going to get remotely interested in free agents as long as Ireland is around to **** any possible deal up 6 ways from Sunday. This guy couldn't land a free agent if his soulless ginger life depended on it.
     
  2. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    actually, WADR, most of the people who give Ireland a pass by blaming bad moves on Parcells genuinely believe Parcells was responsible for those mistakes, not because we're looking to scapegoat the guy. Considering loyalties lay with the Dolphins rather than Jeff Ireland, I don't see why anyone here would have a reason to be intentionally biased toward Ireland for any reason if it hypothetically goes against the good of the team.
     
  3. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Monst is definitely the king of the Ireland haters club.

    He's going to be making the decisions in 2013 though.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Same guy who *****ed and *****ed about us not spending a 1st on a QB?

    Then we did and?/? He's still *****ing lol Thank you, ignore list.
     
  5. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Other than Pat White, I'm pretty sure it's all speculation as to whether Parcells or Ireland is responsible for what players.
     
  6. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm pretty well certain you have no interest in anything Dolphins related other than telling people how disinterested you are. Which is, funny enough, is something absolutely no one is likely to summon any degree of passion or interest in.
     
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  7. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    Wallace if the price is right and a draft pick if the guy they want is available.
     
  8. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    yeah, pretty much. However, personally, I'm the type to lay blame on the person who bears most of the responsibility if I don't actually know all the specifics involved. If a manager does a bad job I wouldn't necessarily fire his asst mgr along with him.
     
  9. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Bowe - Wallace - Jennings - In that order.
     
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  10. 17isOurSavior

    17isOurSavior New Member

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    Dream:
    Sign Greg Jennings, Draft DeAndre Hopkins.
     
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  11. WhiteIbanez

    WhiteIbanez Megamediocremaniacal

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    Parcells laid the proverbial egg here. Give it up.
     
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  12. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    I'm always hesitant on spending money on big name FA's. It's hard to get good value out of a player whose price has been bid up over their actual productive value. When you're the Miami Dolphins whose drafting over the last 10 years has been horrible, you have to look at options like FA. I'd prefer to see us continue to build through the draft and add role players and depth through FA.

    I believe your cap space should be spent on players who have paid their dues, sweat and bled for your organization. Reward players for the right behaviors, the right character and the right production. Not someone looking for a big pay day.

    Having said that, I'd vote for Wallace or Jennings at the right price.
     
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  13. jinx

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    I'd target Wallace first, then Jennings. Bowe as plan C.

    Ireland's #1 target is probably Kevin Ogletree.
     
  14. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

  15. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    Hartline's a FA. We've got to sign someone. When you consider the money Bhart may get, you may just want to go all out for Wallace/Bowe. Let's not totally discount Bowe's skills here. Didn't he have like 16 tds that one year ?
     
  16. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    It would be hilarious to see Ireland draft a tackle, a DT, and lets say a guard with the first three picks next draft. I wonder what the supporters would say?
     
  17. VanDolPhan

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    None. Because none of those guys will be freed by their teams.
     
  18. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    If it was a tackle, DE and a guard, I could live with it, if we signed Jennings and Keller to complement them and then spent the other 2 of our top 5 picks on WR and CB.
     
  19. JMHPhin

    JMHPhin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    As th drunk in the movie Big Daddy says:

    "Hell Yes"
     
  20. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    "Hip... Hip-hop... Hip-hop annonymous? (hippopotamus)"
     
  21. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That you should absolutely pick BPA and the people who are objecting to it don't really have a clear idea of the nature of the draft.
     
  22. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    BPA is only valid if the BPA is head and shoulders better than the next player on your list that covers a glaring hole on your roster. If you have two players ranked very well but one is slightly better than the other, but is also the same position you have stocked, you still take BPA? Let's say a center is BPA, but you have a WR ranked right below him. What do you do?
     
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  23. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    BPA is BPA. Leave it to a fireland campaigner to designate positions for each pick. Say we're picking late in last years first round with this years needs. Do you pass on a decastro because you need a Wr and Aj jenkins, Brian quick is there ?
     
  24. Patssuck

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    Well we won't overpaid for offensive talent in FA, so where are we going to get offensive talent. I mean after Ireland lowball/insults the free agent wrs?

    Leave it to a Ireland supporter to not value playmakers..
     
  25. Patssuck

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    Nature of the game is to score points.
     
  26. Stringer Bell

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    Through the same context you get other players? Are you really advocating a strategy of overpaying players? :wacko:
     
  27. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    Do you think you are going to get any of these guys without overpaying?
     
  28. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Slightly better is one thing. The idea that it's unacceptable that the Dolphins come up with certain positions in certain areas of the draft is another, wholly unacceptable thing.
     
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  29. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    So instead of fixing the wide receiver spot, we draft another linemen? God do people love mediocrity?
     
  30. Stringer Bell

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    Which guys? The league is full of skill-position players that are not overpaid. In fact, I'd argue that the best teams have ones that are underpaid.
     
  31. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    If a DT is rated at 100 and the next available WR is rated a 80, you pick the DT.
     
  32. Stringer Bell

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    Are you suggesting that simply drafting a WR will fix the position?????
     
  33. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    Sign... So No Wallace or Jennings? Got it. Those teams draft those players by the way. Something that Ireland has shown an inability to do... Draft receivers minus Hartline.
     
  34. Stringer Bell

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    Jennings is a possibility. I wouldn't sign Wallace however.
     
  35. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    Im saying you pick a freaken receiver before the 6th round... This is a very good receiver draft. But knowing us we will do what we did a few years back with that deep TE draft, pick a nobody in the 6th round.
     
  36. SICK

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    What will you say when he goes WR/WR/DE/OLB ?
     
  37. rdhstlr23

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    I would imagine Miami will be diligent in their evaluations of the available receivers in free agency and the draft. I don't think this information is telling us anything we didn't know already.

    I'd be fine with one of either of them. I feel like Bowe can get his crap together in Miami.

    I still like the idea of going after one of the top 3 receivers in free agency and using two of our higher draft picks on another skilled receiver and tight end.

    We will probably overpay in FA, but that's the nature of it. It's a serious area of need, thus the funds should be distributed there.
     
  38. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yes. I love mediocrity, and am personally challenged by the idea that the team I enjoy watching might be successful.

    The reality of a draft is that at a specific spot it may be unproductive to draft a specific position, or even multiple positions. This can be contrary to popular wisdom. Drafting one of those players and having a lot of hope is a ****ty idea.

    Drafting a Pro Bowl DT is a much better outcome than a mediocre wide receiver for the Dolphins. It's not about trying, it's not about being aggressive, it's not about luck. It's about being correct.
     
  39. P h i N s A N i T y

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    Now your just making things up. And imagining new scenarios in which you can complain about ! I can't wait until we meet a free agent and he signs elsewhere... The pandamonium !
     
  40. Patssuck

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    I would applaud him.
     

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