More stories about the Dolphins former Head Coach

Good points, I forgot this. I think Rodgers - like most rooks - would've struggled early, whenever he played, but his talent would've shown eventually. Maybe Frerrotte starts in '05 the way he did and by the end of the year, Rodgers would've taken over, and perhaps been the starter against Pittsburgh in that '06 opener. Oh well, as w/ many things Saban, we'll never know.

 

I think you're correct about Rodgers. He slid because once he got past the QB needy teams, other teams weren't particularly ready to consider it. I think Brady Quinn suffered a similar fate. But I believe the Brees correlation is a bit different because he was projected to go somewhere in the neighborhood of where he eventually did. Wannstadt should have been prepared to pull the trigger, I just don't believe Dave thought Drew was the type of QB he wanted for his team.

 

ckparrothead:
That was a good read, thanks for posting it, also let's go Fighting Irish!

 

Another:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/s...html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

 

I'm glad to see the media calling Saban out on his bull****tery.
Now if only Colin Cowherd will admit that Saban failed in Miami.

 

Did you just tag ck facebook style?

 

Odd. Guess I'm not used to reading "Brady Quinn" and "talent" in the same sentence.

 

Saban did a lot of crappy things. But I will not rely on Crowder's second hand information. Really? This is what we're down to?

By the way, Huizenga also defended Saban's decision and laid it out on medical staffs. He might be lying too. But he said they went out and got multiple independent medical opinions. Not just relying on Miami's staff, they went out and got multiple opinions. All said Brees was the bigger risk. When you have one doctor, the doctor who performed the surgery, who is also the foremost expert in the world, but still, he performed the surgery, when he's the only one to say it's a Green Light, while 3-5 other teams aren't convinced, it's hard decision to make. Especially with $10 million dollars.

 

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2007-09-30/sports/0709290196_1_huizenga-brees-dolphins

They got it wrong with Brees/Culpepper but that doesn't mean they made the wrong decision at the time.

 

Bottom line is that Saban let his tremendous ego get in the way of his being a good NFL coach. He bumbled the job and scurried out of town to protect his vanity and to keep his college reputation intact. He is a big part of the big dark cloud that has hung over the Dolphin's organization for a long time.

 

WGAS?

I hardly even remember his time in Miami. I remember his draft picks and his player decisions more than I remember his time as a whole.

I actually can't stand him more for his college bs than anything else. I don't think it is enough to warrant bringing it up on here though.

 

I hadn't heard the story of Huizenga flying to Louisiana to deliver Saban's wife a check.

The Scott O'Brien stories are the best ones. Guy was a complete lunatic.

 

She's cute and batsh*t crazy. See the story that is linked ITT

 

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree

 

The Les Brown quote just never gets old.

 

Treating surgeons are notorious for giving overly optimistic estimates of the degree of recovery for a number of reasons:
1) Patients tend to tell their doctor what they think the doctor wants to hear
2) Ego. "I did this job therefore I must have done it right"
3) They are emotionally/professionally invested in believing that the outcome will be good.

This is why court cases always rely on 2nd opinions from doctors not invested in the patient to determine what is the actual level of recovery from a procedure.

Relying on the treating doctor's opinion would be like relying on Nick Saban's opinion of how good a job of coaching the Dolphins he was doing.

 

Yea I'm a Canes fan and I hope Alabama wins by 70 points. It's irrational how people hold grudges against coaches.

 

You can still argue that Saban has been the best coach we've had since Jimmy. His teams never quit on him. Hell even Philbin's team quit on him at times this year.

 

Also, I don't think James Andrews plays those kinds of games.

We just saw an example of this with RGIII where Andrews came out and said that he had not cleared him to play following the initial examination and that anything that happened was on the 'Skins, plus that RGIII playing "scared the hell" out of him.

 

Sad isn't it? Once he quit the team the entire franchise collapsed and is still lost at sea. That 2006 offseason doomed us.

 

Saban certainly didn't help but the real damage was done in the Wannstedt years.
Wanny started a slow burn fire that systematically burned every ounce of talent off of what had been a roster with some real talent when he took over. Saban simply added some fuel to keep the fire burning.

 

Sorry folks, college football is a ****ing cesspool that I simply can no longer stomach.

As I've said, I hope all the bad things in life happen to Nick Saban and only to Nick Saban.

 

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum thats hateful.

 

I want Bama to get smoked cuz it keeps the 3 MNC in 4 years teams to one. Has little to do with Saban for me. Unfortunately though, this will require insufferable Notre Dame fan to get big once again.

 

You have 6 independent experts who say one thing, vs. one guy who says another and has a clear conflict of interest.

James Andrews may be the most well known in Sports circles but it's not like Miami went to the local family doctors for opinions. One of them was Dr. Russ Warren, equally renowned and respected (and was Giants team doctor) and he said the same thing. He is so well respected that players from other teams still get operated on by him (just recently, Darrelle Revis).

James Andrews is just the most well known ortho in sports. He's not the only, or perhaps not even the best. Who knows.

 

Imagine in 2006 someone said that by 2013 nick saban would have 3 championships! What a disappointed realization I would be to find out its not with Miami


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But that is just it - he didn't get those guys based on his decisions. He really has no one to blame but himself for what happened either year he was here.

Passing on Brees who had a horrific shoulder injury was one thing, but his drafts were bad. Ronnie was a nice back, but never anything more, and there lots of other offensive players we would have had better success with, including Aaron Rogers. And to take Jason Allen in the first round, who was a complete bust, was another example. Saban drafted guys he coveted at the college level. He also had no inkling how to handle grown adults who are paid mercenaries. He is lucky he didn't get his *** whipped by several players, including Zach Thomas.

In college football, he can recruit guys from all over the country and not worry about things like a salary cap or not being able to pay top rated players who he has stacked 3 deep at certain positions. Entirely different situation.

The irony of Rogers being in GB is that McCarty was with the 49ers at the time and one of the ones who lobbied most for Smith over Rogers. Now Smith is out in SF and McCarty has Rogers...

 

Great points. Saban's 2006 draft was awful.

 

About sums it up, someone put some water in his wife's dish.

 

I dispute this for a number of reasons.

1) To win in the NFL in the 2000s you need a high powered passing offence. Saban prefers low risk grind it out offences.

2) As others have noted his drafting of talent, wasn't that great.

3) Alternatively, which is my preferred theory, is that he didn't develop the talent he had.

4) He coaches football as if it were an X-box game where you insert robots who will do exactly what they are told. Given Dan Marino at the peak of his powers Saban would stop Dan from calling audibles.

5) His people management skills are abysmal. That means every talented coach would leave as soon as they could find a better situation, and there are players who got crushed by his style who could have been a lot better with encouragement. Jason Allen for example strikes me as a player who would do a lot better under Philbin than Saban, not that I'm saying Jason Allen would have been a HOFer with different coaching, but that Saban's coaching screwed so badly with his head that his confidence got shredded and pushed his level of play lower.

6) His players play scared. I.E. they are playing to avoid mistakes, not playing to back their judgement.

 

That sort of **** comes from a bad home environment. Her Dad probably explodes on them or hits the wife or daughter or something.

Definite ragers, both of them.