It depends on what is traded for him. If we trade a 4th or 5th, and also address WR in other ways, I fail to see a problem.
If we took two Beavers, Poyer and Wheaton, in the 2nd, I'd take that and be pretty happy. I hear all this talk of the SEC corners, but don't sleep on or discount Poyer. It's a very small drop from Milliner and Banks to Poyer, if any at all. There appear to be a lot of 2nd and 3rd round area WRs and Wheaton may get lost in the shuffle so to speak. He may last till the 3rd. Markus' cousin was Kenny Wheaton who was a standout corner for the Ducks back in the late 90s. I think he was the best pure cover man the Ducks ever had and was surprised he didn't last long in the NFL. Seems like the Boys drafted him pretty high too. He later made a name for himself in the CFL.
I've been stuck at the office all day, so I've not seen anything. Would a fair comparison be to Brandon Brooks from last year's draft?
That would be going quite a distance. I saw Brandon Brooks live at Shrine practice and he was a meast. And he proved it when he did all his stuff at Indy.
Been a big fan of his since the summer but he needs to get his footwork and pad level right. Sometimes looks lazy.
The best thing about him is he makes plays on the ball, and has good hands. That's what we need in the back end. Jones shows good hands. Marshall has in previous years, but dang, Carroll, Smith and Clemons catch like they have casts on their hands.
Buchanan did get dominated by Fisher but he just looked quick. Seems like has the speed to be a decent pass rusher in the NFL just needs some time to develop. I haven't seen him in round 1 mock. People hear track star and think he is a monster at his size but he is still quite raw. Where should he go in the draft in your opinion? Simon needs to get more aggressive with using his hands. He has the strength but doesn't properly use to his advantage. Fisher was the best for the North IMO should be interesting how he handles Ansah. Pugh, Long and Winters all did pretty well and wouldn't mind any on the Dolphins. Where do you think Long fits in the NFL? I like to think he can start day 1 at LG but develop in a fine tackle. Pugh would be an ideal candidate for RG where do you think he projects?
According to this cat, Simon is done for the week: https://twitter.com/FSOhioZJackson/status/293863815945256961
Seriously, if Miami is even considering signing Mike Wallace, they should just draft Wheaton. Wheaton is a cheaper, younger version that isn't full of himself yet. Mike thinks he is going to go into this offseason and get paid like a top receiver when he is not a top receiver. He's an excellent deep threat, but that's the extent of his route tree at this point in time. Plus, I can't handle Miami getting any more Ole Miss Rebels on this team. John Jerry is enough.
[video=youtube;S_m9Ktrpp_8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_m9Ktrpp_8[/video] I want to see that on a football field on Sunday.
Watched it on the NFL Network; it needs to be longer. Not really an O-Line type of guy but Brian Winters and Eric Fisher were killing. Ansah has potential but is being vastly over-hyped. Alex Okafor is strong and uses his hands well. Jordan Poyer is a playmaker. Leon McFadden is a name I've mentioned before and he was shut everyone down. Terrance Williams vs anything but press looks decent. Chris Harper looked nice. Jonathan Franklin blocks pretty well. Funniest moment was when Desmond Trufant, who was so sure of himself, wanted to go against Markus Wheaton and got beat Wheaton was out of bounds though.
Definitely need to show more Senior Bowl practice. Granted, doing so would cut into the rare airing of NFLN's Top 10 Greatest Hands followed by A Football Life of Bill Belichick.
IMO Ansah isn't overhyped. It's not like the times he's getting shut down are due to being out-abilitied. He's simply being out-experienced. The underlying tools are there to become outstanding, and he has the instincts, passion, and intelligence to bring it all to fruition IMO. With the leverage, length, agility, strength, athleticism, balance, twitchiness, and awareness he plays with, he'll be quite dangerous when he develops his pass rush repertoire. His speed to power should become pretty sick; I could see him rocking back a tackle in jaw-dropping fashion. No reason for him to not have a solid spin move, nor a great swin & rip with the type of strong hands he plays with. He has the flexibility to bend around the corner, the burst to close, and enough speed to make a tackle worry about the outside rush to allow him to become unpredictable. Right now Ansah's like a talented white belt going against blue belts, but once he reaches blue status and beyond he'll become a dominant player IMO.
I don't see why a team wouldn't at least try Kyle Long at right tackle before shoving him inside. I don't think Margus Hunt should go until the 4th round earliest, maybe bottom 3rd. Michael Buchanon may look quick but he's got zero physicality to him IMO.
Do you think Long could crack late first to a team like the Packers? I feel like he is the perfect fit for that offense and has a pretty high ceiling. Oh wow you weren't kidding about not liking him LOL. What is his biggest issue? Is it a technique issue or is there something else? Do you think its a mental thing for Buchanan? Man not sure I would want a guy that plays in the trenches afraid of some contact. edit-Saw that Hunt didn't do anything today to stand out. That is rather disappointing.
The biggest issue for Margus Hunt is that he's built top-heavy and has almost zero flexibility. That's a physical issue that he's never really going to "fix". In terms of technique I feel like he stops his feet a lot during his rush and that he's still really raw in terms of being a heads up football player seeing the action in the backfield and acting accordingly. His hand technique needs a lot of work. All of this stuff got better in 2012 than it was in 2011, but you have to ask yourself whether it got better ENOUGH to outweigh the fact that he's already 26 years old and has a short fuse to work with. "Raw" + "Already Old" can be a bad combination (see: Gates, Clyde). The fact of the matter is the total combination of these things make for a player that I don't quite understand. That's the thing to take away from it. Player prospects are not like a brick, to where you can evaluate how smooth they are, how square they are, what dimensions, color, etc. They're more like a puzzle with 1000 pieces and you have to judge whether those pieces are going to fit together to make a puzzle, or not. Puzzle pieces can be cut in an infinite number of ways, but they still have to fit within themselves to make something, or it's not a puzzle. With Margus Hunt's sheer size and and lack of flexibility, he's not going to be an outside pass rusher. He's going to be too much of a one-trick pony that way and with his pad level that trick may not be very good. So you figure OK, well at least he'd be a run stopper from that position and then maybe move inside on pass rush downs. Except, his lack of instincts, raw technique and inconsistent pad level actually make him a pretty poor run defender already at the college level. Unless his intangibles and technique begin soaring upward very quickly, things are only going to get harder in the NFL. So can he move inside full time? He's pretty big, very strong, maybe he can do it. I don't think he can, there's not a good history of guys with his pad level playing inside and holding up to the run. He's already 26 years old and he's been learning the defensive end position this whole time, if you have him reset everything when he's already working with a short fuse, you're damaging him even further. What you're left with is a guy you hope can pass rush from the interior on pass rushing downs, essentially doing what he did that made him famous in the first place that got him all those blocked kicks. And that is a specialist that very few teams really use, an interior rush specialist that comes on and off the field quickly. I think the bottom line is the one thing I know I can count on the guy for is to do what he did best in college, block field goals. His best bet would be as a run defender at defensive end, then moving interior on pass rush downs, but that's going to take time to develop him in that area and by the time you're done he'll be 29-30 years old. It's like I was saying before though, he looks impressive on tape because he's a 26 year old. His body is in a different stage of physical development from the 19 or 20 year olds he's been facing, from a strength standpoint. It would be one thing if he were 26 years old because he'd taken time off and hadn't been physically training himself, but he'd been physically training himself exhaustively for olympic caliber track and field events. He's literally a man amongst boys. I remember people making that argument about Weeden last year. I disagreed because the QB position is primarily a cerebral position, and he did not have an experience advantage over his younger counterparts. I said that if we were talking about linemen or linebackers, physically brutal positions, I would agree. Well, fast-forward, and now we ARE talking about a guy that plays a physically brute force position, where he with his fine tuned 26 year old Olympic caliber athlete body gets to beat up on some still developing 19 and 20 year old kids.
Man I love Trufant. I love the swagger, the competitiveness... Yesterday, a WR dropped the ball, picked it up. Trufant just punched it out of his hand again. Hah.
It's nice to see some well built o lineman, not a lot of fat asses out here this week...Fisher is built perfectly, looks as good as Kalil in pass protection..
Yeah I was thinking this, and it seems to be quite a good draft for us with prototypical sizes. The O-Linemen are quite light, zone blocking linemen. The receivers are Green Bay types, 6'0-6'2, 200-200lb. Hopefully get a good class this year.
Wheaton with a very nice catch in traffic, I saw real good long speed thee as well on another play.. Speed and competitive nature..Trufant and Wheaton surely do have it.
And there are a handful of legit corners...and there's a nice selection of D'ends. I really love Richardson, I think he might be the best overall defensive player in the draft..
