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Baerry Jackson Sports Buzz: Analysts, evaluators assess Dolphins' offseason plans

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Most advocated trying to sign an impact receiver in free agency instead of trying to find one in a draft without a sure-fire Julio Jones or A.J. Green-type prospect.

    Support was split between Mike Wallace and Greg Jennings, with none expressing a preference for Dwayne Bowe, Wes Welker or anyone else.

    The sense here is there’s a very good chance Miami will pursue Wallace, with Jennings also in the mix.

    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...son-plans-heat-canes-notes.html#storylink=cpy
     
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  2. oakelmpine

    oakelmpine New Member

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  3. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Load of ****. Wallace has never been.introuble as far as Im aware. His worst crime was holding out after an organization lowballed him.
     
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  4. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I know the board is split on this subject too......
     
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  5. NolesNPhinsFan

    NolesNPhinsFan New Member

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    Wow.. Ya don't say.. Lol
     
  6. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I believe Davis has more upside than Smith at CB, but he obviously didn't fit the mold this coaching staff had in mind. The problem with Davis is he needs to grow up and if he does, he could be a top CB in the NFL and Smith will continue to be a very average CB for the team he signs with this off season.
     
  7. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    The board is split on pretty much every subject...
     
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  8. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I think a lot of football people are surprised that Jeff Ireland is still the GM of the Dolphins. I imagine they just figure this is an example of Ross having no idea of what he is doing as an NFL owner.
     
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  9. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Except, I think, Joe Philbin........and that phinsational is a douche. :lol:
     
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  10. sports24/7

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    I found this interesting:
    That leads me to believe Wallace is the target, with an outside shot that they go after Jennings also. They also could look to add any combo of an OT, corner, TE, or DE if they're planning on spending a lot of money. There will be quality free agents at all of those positions.
     
  11. RoninFin4

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    If they plan on spending a "lot" of money I think I'd rather see it spent on Jairus Byrd and/or Ryan Clady before Wallace.
     
  12. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I think that article is full of reminders that even guys with proven/semi-proven records can come off sounding...wrong...when they're talking about things they don't know and haven't researched very well.

    First off, according to the sources, Sean Smith isn't asking $8 or $9 million a year. The sources say they want an identical contract to what Jason McCourty got. That's a little above $7 million a year. And that's their starting point. It means they'd likely settle for just below $7 million a year.

    Second, when has Mike Wallace ever been a problem child in Pittsburgh except about his contract?

    Third, I'd like to know what Theismann meant by "they've gone the Dwayne Bowe route with Brandon Marshall". If he means a guy with questionable attitude who will present problems in your locker room, OK point taken. If he means just that Bowe is big and strong and makes tough catches and gets yards after the catch through his physicality, size and agility, what an incredibly stupid thing to say.

    Last, why is Miami being argued as having been deficient in the red zone? They weren't the best, but they were decent in there I think.

    Most of the other stuff they said made a lot of sense, to be fair.
     
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  13. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I'm actually wondering if the reason for inaction on Sean Smith is because his agent is the one that actually offered the most reasonable deal relative to what his client is really worth. The Dolphins might be figuring that once they initiate talks, that deal will get done quickly...so they don't need to go hot and heavy in that negotiation. They're further apart with Randy Starks, Jake Long and Brian Hartline, so there's been more discussion.
     
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  14. Larryfinfan

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    I don't have the articles in front of me, but the only issue I have seen with Wallace is that he's a problem in the lockerroom, at least from the team's perspective...I don't really recall in issues with the law... That said, there is something to be said about the Steelers and when and why the get rid of talent...There has to be some underlying issues that he caused (in their eyes) for them to not want to re-sign him. The relationship has been acrimonious for some time between them... If he doesn't want to play for them, knowing that they are perennially in the hunt....it just makes you question his motives...??
     
  15. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Hartline faster than Jennings... :lol: It's also funny how much negative stuff I'm hearing about Wallace, can't run routes, just a deep guy, drops too many balls.... You'd think teams were already negotiating with free agents, but that would be tampering as we all know. :shifty:
     
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  16. Disgustipate

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    There's the questionable attitude, then there are the focus issues and the strong probability that you need to feed him the ball to get him involved above and beyond the normalized target workload that the offense generally utilizes.
     
  17. Larryfinfan

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    “He has been a problem child at times, and you went through that with Marshall,” said Ken Herock, a former Falcons and Packers executive who now prepares college players for interviews with NFL teams. “I would try to get Jennings.”

    There's the quote of how he's been a problem child at times?? I don't recall anything other than contract issues, but if that carried over into the locker room, in Pittsburgh's eyes, then that why the problem child tag on him...

    There
    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...-canes-notes.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy
     
  18. Desides

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    This would be very interesting if true. Though I think the team lets Starks walk.
     
  19. djphinfan

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    Incidentally, Long’s wife Jackie tweeted Thursday: “We want to be here if they want us. We’ll see what happens.”

    I've been waiting to hear that..it's good to hear that Jake wants to stay here...lets check his *** out, makes sure he's gonna be strong, and make him an offer..

    Having the question mark that Martin is at left tackle, and having another on the right is a scary proposition at this pont.
     
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  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    if they let Starks walk, move Odrick inside, then lets go balls deep in a def end in the draft...lol
     
  21. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Coyle seems opposed to moving Odrick inside, based on his comments in press conferences about Odrick playing tackle.

    I don't mind letting Starks walk, moving Odrick inside, and then signing Michael Johnson to play end. Keeps options open at #12.
     
  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If you sign Johnson Before the draft your ok with not taking a stud Dend at 12 if he's BPA.?
     
  23. GMJohnson

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    All rumors perhaps, but the Steelers know more than anyone and they gave the $$$ to A Brown instead of Wallace, that has to count for something no?
     
  24. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what we do in FA. In a vacuum, I'd like to go BPA at every pick. But if we don't land a WR, then suddenly Patterson becomes a huge priority at #12.
     
  25. GMJohnson

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    How about BPA at 12 and then trading up into the lates 1st to grab one of the top WRs. Or better, trading down from 12 and grabbing one of the top wrs?
     
  26. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    But we know there's a very good chance were gonna go after a vet wide receiver..
     
  27. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Yep. Miami was actually around 15th in the league in red zone scoring percentage as far as touchdowns go. The problem is, they were something like 2nd to last in the # of redzone attempts they had. Their problem was not scoring once they got into the redzone. Their problem was getting to the redzone to begin with.
     
  28. Desides

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    That seems to assume we only need one WR, when we really need two, preferably three. I don't see a reason why we should rule out any position at #12, WR or DE or anything else.

    Doesn't mean we sign the guy we want. And again, we need more than one WR. Jennings is only the beginning, not the solution.
     
  29. GMJohnson

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    We sucked at scoring from outside the red zone also.
     
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  30. djphinfan

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    I wouldnt mind sacrificing some for a combination of Sheldon Richardson and Tyler Eifert..
     
  31. djphinfan

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    I know we need more than one, but your willing to go Big free agent Jennings then double up on it with a first round wide receiver?
     
  32. oakelmpine

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    Eifert is music to my ears.
     
  33. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    can you believe that some old farts around here want Ertz over Eifert?:shifty: geez Louise, I tell ya man, those eyes are the first to go..
     
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  34. GMJohnson

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    I'm assuming we sign a guy in FA to be the #1, not sure we can trust a rook to come in and be that guy. Say we go w Bowe, we can afford to go BPA at 12 and look for wrs and te's in rounds 2 and 3 IMO.
     
  35. LBsFinest

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    At this point, I really don't care which WR we sign, whether it's Wallace or Jennings, just give me Patterson in the first and I'll be a happy camper.
     
  36. LBsFinest

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    they offered that deal to Brown after Wallace turned it down.
     
  37. Bpk

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    The Bowe-Jennings-Wallace trifecta is like the F**k-Marry-Kill game.

    We look into Bowe and kill that idea when we discover his character is not worthy of the size investment he would be.

    We try to **** Wallace, but fail and walk home in the snow with blue balls.

    We end up marrying Jennings, because he's getting to that age where his looks are starting to fade and he just wants to settle down.
     
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  38. Desides

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    Yes, I'm willing to do just that.

    I disagree with the prioritization here, that's all.
     
  39. djphinfan

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    ok, so do you think that if we already have Jennings on the team, you don't think a flex complete tight end like Eifert would be more impactful than a 2nd receiver as in Patterson at 12?
     
  40. djphinfan

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    lol..Jennings..

    S&$ that's funny..I have more hope because I think his physical talent is legit, but you might be right in the big picture of why athletes do what they do in contract years, and how much passion they lose because of it, and how that relates to their game moving forward.
     

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