Pads.. Really, at this time of the year the Draft and FA and Trades are all as intertwined with each other as a gaggle of snakes in a Wesson oil party. Too many decisions effect the choices for other decisions and not all of the decisions are the teams to make... in a lot of them, someone has to agree to sign the contract. But what gripes me is that there is nothing in the language of humanity in which Ireland could have muttered anything that would have precluded the Fireland Brigade from taking their shots. The argument is getting older than Methuselah's cloak and twice as dusty. It rears its head in any possible thread and seems to be the sole thought of some posters. And all of this from a group, who by and large, have neither the money, the credentials nor the office to much more effect the Dolphin's owner's ideas than a roaring case of flatulence in a hurricane. I though we left that kind of skubula on Finheaven.
55 employees? how are any of these ppl ever going to agree on anything? if u need 55 different opinions to select talent you must be a terrible talent evaluator.
Which is something else he has not shone at, his talent lays in the small ball deals that pan out, the number of highly productive FA's who sign here would make for a short list. Which from my pov is one of the reasons why he makes trades trying to land playmakers as they typically just use Miami to set the market, then sign elsewhere. The unvarnished fact of the matter is RR, Ireland has not been very successful at drafting playmakers, it really is as simple as this, add in he is sub .500 as a GM and he should be held accountable for both failures. It's like when the Lions were really bad post Millen, at least they added interesting players like Megatron, we really don't even have that to look forward to, and there should be accountability over placidity due to those failures. Sorry Brother, 4 straight losing seasons, if his words do not provide confidence for everyone there is a reason why.
Yea, what his eyes have seen and what his scouts have observed over the past four years have led to the Dolphins having a 27-37 over that time period. It would appear that he needs to get his eyes checked and the organization needs to hire some scouts who actually know how to select quality NFL talent.
i don't think the transition tag works that way. another team can offer them a deal but miami has the right to match.i don't think there are any draft picks if the other team signs them away. i think the franchise tag gets you the 2 1st rd picks. however i may be wrong.
And Davis, Odrick and Co have been dominating players? W/Ireland, his opportunity cost to follow his "blueprint" has been amazingly steep, Davis over Clay Matthews for example and this has happened consistently and imo, he should be called out for it as someone in the organization is not doing a very good job of finding ready to contribute at a high level players.
This is sort of what I took away from his presser as well "screw you guys, I look to my scouts and my own eyes" Which is both proper and improper, he is a "professional" but he shouldn't have thrown a jab at the fans
Yes, he's asking all 55 what they think on every player. I'm sure none, and I mean none of these 55 people are in fact 'support' for the main players. If you're going to try and insult the man, at least do so without making yourself assuredly incompetent to everyone else. Because this quoted part, I don't think you read it before you posted it. It doesn't sound intelligent. I'm sorry, but it really doesn't.
If he were Bobby Beathard, Ozzie Newsome or Art Rooney, he could take a jab at the fans. But if he were, he wouldn't have to feel compelled to do it. That says something. We're fans. We want results. Nothing wrong with that.
It's funny how anyone who doesn't want to string up Ireland by the balls is considered an Ireland supporter and in love with the guy. Yet so many go to ridiculous lengths (like the original post in question here) to try and take shots at him, but somehow they're being fair and objective. All Con (who knows football better than most people on this board, myself included) did was point out how absurd that comment was without any mention of support of Ireland gets dubbed some kind of Ireland fanboy.
FWIW, I'm neutral/leaning positive towards Ireland BUT also think he has to deliver this season or legitimate questions about his job security should be raised. I think Ken Herrock said it best when he mentioned a GM with a losing record for this long should feel lucky they still have a job, the flip side to that is the Texans were in the same boat but eventually turned the corner. So there are good reasons to be in either line of thought
I'm basically in the same boat. Had the Dolphins fired him I would have been ok with that. He's certainly made his share of mistakes. I think he's also not given credit for the successes he's had here by many though, so I'm ok with them keeping him and giving him this opportunity to get it turned around. I just think the lengths that some go to bash him are a little bit ridiculous.
Armando made the decent point (yeah, I know ... I know) that Ireleand may have been brandishing the franchise tag notion around to facilitate more team-friendly deals without any real intention of using it. In other words, a negotiating ploy.
Sean Smith won't be tagged. If your going to tag Smith...then your giving him the money that works out to a long term deal anyways. Won't happen. It'll be Starks. 55 huh? Lets hope he listens to his coaches better. I read about Bill Sheridan begging the Dolphins to draft Lavonte David before he left for another job. Lavonte over Martin woulda been huge.
Yeah, thats what I am. And, I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with very poor attempt to be 'cool' before. And then, the "you support Ireland" response as if that in some will in fact take away from the fact you used 'there' which refers to a place, whereas 'their' refers to a possession, person and such. So as I said to you before, it wasn't very intelligent. If you're going to try and insult someone at least have the common sense to read what you type. I could care less what you say about Ireland provided it has this thing called thought behind it. You know the thing, that when you (yes you specifically) do get it, allows you to form coherent sentences. Well, maybe not. See my first response was more about you and your very poor attempt to be cool that actually made you look like a very small fish in a very big pond. You're trying very hard to get noticed. You know like the kid who screams for attention by saying whatever pops into their head, often at the most inopportune time, mind you. It made you look flat out over matched in a cerebral sense, and you're next response with the wrong use of a word only cemented my previous beliefs. Want to try for three for three? Why not, you're the one typing this stuff, and you're marvelous at it.
Well seeing as sentences start with capital letters, are you sure you're the best person to assess anything to do with sentences? Just asking. I mean you can't make this **** up. You really can't.
lol, sorry i didnt know there were grammar requirements to posting on the internet. an ireland supporter who just got a reality check on his hero and is now in hissyfit mode. You just keep posting your big paragraphs and il keep replying to you with my 1 liners because thats all the ireland crowd is worth to me. Enjoy :P
You realize you just created a paragraph right? A one liner that's four sentences long. Keep going, practice makes perfect. You're comedic gold. Yes, please keep it up, yes, you, of the 7 billion on Earth have got me figured out. Yes, that's it. Tell me, what's my sign?
Con's not an Ireland supporter....but he does hate stupid. And were seeing a whole lot of stupid here. The Ireland hater cause.........your not helping.
he ripped apart your silly statement and that's your comeback? you obviously spoke before you thought and got called on it. has nothing to do with pro- or anti-Ireland, it was just completely lacking logic.
This is pointless. This thread was not about this, and shouldn't be. Some things are what they are. Hurry up March 12th. Then there will something to talk about.
Some posters you have to just put on your ignore list because they have nothing better to do with their time than troll others.
he should feel blessed, in this era it almost never happens. don't think Houston is a good comparison, even during that stretch where they couldn't break through the clutches of Peyton Manning to win the division they never had consecutive losing seasons, they would usually win 8 to 9 games. the 6 win team of 2006 was really Charley Casserly's team, he shocked the world by taking Mario Williams over Bush in the draft and then bounced a couple months later...their current GM came in and improved the team right away by trading for Schaub. you really have to truly suck at building a team to suffer 4 straight losing years...i mean the only teams to do it since 09 are miami, buffalo, st. louis, and cleveland and all the teams have different GMs now then they did to begin with....all but us.
a little revisionist history here... last year's WR class was held in high regard going into the draft.
You know a professor of philosophy once told me that intelligence can come in many different forms, the ability to communicate, understand others perspective, and accept people for who they are, we're high on the list.. It seems your posts lack in this regard.
you don't think the circumstances are different here, he was under a dictatorship who really didnt give a fu&$ about achieving goals for this franchise, and given a coach that wasn't very good, he had players picked for him..and left hi and dry, I don't think it's a stretch to try and find a fair restart position for this GM...two years now, going on third.
true that. Oh I do, like the Texans we stand to lose our #1 overall pick, and we are coming off of 4 straight sub .500 seasons and we added a Qb of the present and future Difference being, we really have no analog to Johnson/Daniels/Foster, not even close really. This is one area where the situations do not track at all, unless Miller and Clay suddenly explode this upcoming season. We've added a Qb, and instead of Manninng we have Brady to deal with, the upside is we have no other elite type coaches in the division aside from Belicheck, the Texans also had to deal with some good Jeff Fisher teams as well.
Several of the college scouts have been here since Shula. At least 3 names come to mind out of the 8 or so.
Uhhh. Wow. That. Was. Amazing. OTOH if you subtract all of the clueless folk from the forum it'd be pretty damn quiet around here. Personally I've learned to resist the urge to embarass the lesser informed. It took getting banned though lol. But I still delight in seeing people who deserve it put in their place. Kudos.
He's referencing the logo change. A few people who've been to the facility have said that all Dolphins personnel aren't to wear the old logo/colors as they want to keep the new logo a surprised until it's unveiled. Hence, Ireland wasn't wearing a Dolphins shirt, hat, etc.
I'm not pro Ireland anymore. I'm not anti Ireland anymore. Funny though, he gets killed (and sometimes rightfully so) for the team's record and lack of playmakers. Yet, from 1983 to 1999 this organization had 16 years to draft a serviceable running back, a linebacker who could cover and a cornerback, yet it never happened. Winning covers up lots of stuff, but in the end it's still the same. This franchise wasted a HoF QB's career by drafting poorly and THEN wasted a great defense by ignoring the QB position. Lesson learned: same ****, different day.
