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Mortensen: Dolphins talking about adding Jennings AND Wallace

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Serpico Jones, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    He just talked about it on SportsCenter. Says there are internal discussions about signing both guys.
     
  2. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    No way
     
  3. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Id eat a live owl on camera if we did that. *













































    *i may or may not eat an actual owl, or do anything on camera.
     
  4. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. This could be taken in so many ways. The national press are rarely correct when it comes to us this time of year. So who is putting out the misinformation and what purpose does it serve?

    It ramps up fan expectations / enthusiasm with the team. Which is good and bad. "we" can't say they didn't try if they fail to sign either. Of course not everyone will be satisfied no matter the result.

    If we're negotiating with our own guys, it may put pressure on them to sign sooner rather than later. Obviously that's going to be some large amount of money going elsewhere for both receivers, and all of a sudden $40+m in cap room becomes much much less.
     
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  5. Rhody Phins Fan

    Rhody Phins Fan Well-Known Member

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    The problem with signing both is that you would probably have to sign them for the same amount. I can't see Jennings signing for 7 million if Wallace has signed for 10 million. Money is a ego thing for athletes so I'm sure both players would want to be "respected" with the same amount.
     
  6. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    The "Does Tannehill have enough weapons?" question obviously gets answered with that move.
     
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  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I'm picturing Ireland even contemplating offering that much cash in contracts to Wr's..reaches for:

    -pepcid-sprite-big drink of whiskey-chaser-signs deal
     
  8. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Davone Bess would LOVE this.
     
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  9. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Someone called it, so to speak. I believe they made a thread toying with this Idea.

    Although 1). I'm not against this at all. and 2). I think it IS perfectly 'possible'

    I just really don't see it happening
     
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  10. Ducken

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    I really hope we do it. I believe Jennings can be had for 1 to 2 mil. More the Heartline and make the splash with Wallace. Then Draft a receiver and TE and we will be set. Spend the rest of the first three round picks on D. I believe that will put this team in a real fine position to compete for the foreseeable future and then we can continue to build upon this.
     
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  11. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    nothing says "Win now" more than "Sign all the things!"
     
  12. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I think signing both would be a complete waste of resources, particularly when one has had injury problems and the other doesn't fit what the coaches want in a receiver. It would be a move to add flash to placate the fans and a fan owner.
     
  13. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    which means it has about a 50/50 chance of happening.
     
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  14. Stringer Bell

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    Would be the worst offseason in franchise history. Grounds for someone to be fired.
     
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  15. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    "Internal discussions" =

    Jeff Ireland: "Maybe we should think about adding both of those guys. They'd work pretty well together."
    Joe Philbin: "Yeah that would be great but that's sort of, ya know, your call, uhh...on whether or not we can afford something like that..."
    Jeff Ireland: "Afford it? No, no. We can't afford it. I'm just saying it'd be great if that could happen."
    Joe Philbin: "Uh huh. So...I've gotta...you know...alone, if possible..."
    Jeff Ireland: "Oh, you want me out of your bathroom stall? Oh ok. I'll wait for you down the hall."
     
  16. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    That pretty much sets it in stone we won't get either now.
     
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  17. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    :pray:

    Id rather have Bowe over Jennings but I wont be greedy. I'd happily "settle" on this. :yes:
     
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  18. Joe Robbie

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    Boooo! What this team needs is more high character lineman!
     
  19. Sethdaddy8

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    Joe Flacco had to score 30+ for the Ravens to win the Superbowl. I say do it. We're on the cusp of what? More mediocrity? Keep Bush, make him return punts and use him out of the backfield more often. Be as dynamic as possible.

    What do we need, more interior d-lineman to stop those 4 yd runs?
     
  20. Disgustipate

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    I don't think it would be disastrous, but I'd be a bit concerned.
     
  21. Joe Robbie

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    The Dolphins getting playmakers? I'd fear the world is ending. :(
     
  22. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So let me understand. Signing two good players is bad, and grounds for firing, but five years of drafting and signing more bad than good players is grounds for celebration and a lifetime job without criticism?

    Orwell would be proud
     
  23. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    I wouldn't call investing in the weakest area of your team to modify it for immediate improvement a 'complete waste of resources'. As opposed to all the other methods we've been practicing that work oh-so well.
     
  24. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yeah buddy. We'd have two very good wr's for the first time in almost 30 years and these guys are in a panic :omg:
     
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  25. Da 'Fins

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    If true, I don't like these leaks. If not true, if it's a smokescreen, then how aggressive are they?

    I hate all the FA talk when it's still weeks away from happening and there are still franchise tags out there for some guys (not saying these will get them). And, it just ramps up expectations and demand for the players.

    I just don't see any good from this either way.
     
  26. slickj101

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    Would much rather just have the one and a solid TE and spend the rest of the dough elsewhere.

    Highly doubt we'd really go after both anyways.
     
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  27. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think he was being sarcastic :)
     
  28. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    With only one of them fitting the scheme, which makes the other one's one ability near completely useless in this offense. The most expensive decoy ever, and he can't run the full route tree the way the receivers in this offense should. Horrible, horrible fit for a timing based offense that requires precise route running.

    Jennings is a great fit. He's the guy to go after in free agency.
     
  29. RoninFin4

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    So what this means is Miami's receiving corps is actually going to consist of Bess, Binns, Hartline, Matthews, and a late round pick or David Tyms.

    This time of year is fun for everyone.
     
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  30. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    "But but but my Madden franchise would be AWESOME brah"

    You've got to be able to pay for them, you've got to be able to utilize them, and you've got to account for the very high percentage of free agents who bust. That should realistically be concerning.
     
  31. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Actually you dont know that Wallace cant fit the scheme because hes never been asked to run the routes he will be asked to run here. What we do know is he has a reasonably high RAC which is something this offense emphasizes and that hes a big play threat which is something we desperately need and something there is only but a handful of players like that around. He caught a ton of receiver screens and plays that ask a player to make someone miss in space the last few years. So in conclusion we dont know if he can play in this offense. Id sure as hell rather spend the money on a young, talented game breaker like Wallace though then a 30 year old injury prone wr who hasnt been healthy or productive the last year and a half (Jennings) even if Jennings has experience in the system. I think jennings has a better chance of being a bust (for lack of productivity) then Wallace.
     
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  32. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I doubt it will happen. From a pure football point idk if I'd want it to happen.

    But I like that we're thinking this way...
     
  33. Caps

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    I'll take Jennings + one or two draft picks in one of the deepest WR drafts of all time and spend the extra 10 million elsewhere thank you very much.
     
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  34. KB21

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    Actually, he doesn't have a high RAC. He averaged 3.9 RAC yards last year, and has been in consistent decline since halfway through the 2011 season. For comparison, Greg Jennings -- the better fit -- averaged 4.6 RAC yards last year.
     
  35. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    Armando has been advocating this for months.
     
  36. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I dunno.

    I've never been on the Wallace band wagon, but a move like this would do wonders for ticket sales.
     
  37. Stringer Bell

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    No, overpaying for players is bad under any circumstances. Signing good players for more than they are worth is a strategy of failure in a game of maximizing finite resources. Its like saying a BMW M3 is a good car, so I'll pay $500,000 for it.

    If you sign Mike Wallace for $11M a season, he has to produce among the top-3 WRs in the league, or he is a negative value-added.
     
  38. Boik14

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    Actually PFF has Wallace's RAC at 4.4 and Jennings at 4.8 this year. In 2011 when Arians was in Pitt Wallace's RAC was at 6.8 where as Jennings was at 4.6. In 2010 Jennings was at 5.5 RAC and Jennings was at 6.3. As Ive stated before Bruce Arians offense is much similar to what Wallace will be asked to do here and the decline in RAC is directly tied to the change in philosophy from the two different coordinators.
     
  39. seabass0795

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    I am 100% for this, if of course it happens which is doubtful. Wallace is still a young guy, and this lets us address other areas such as CB and OL in the first 2 rounds of the draft. Get the WR position stacked during FA and worry about other positions in the draft. Also gives us wiggle room to draft more of a BPA type of strategy in the draft.
     
  40. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Oh, and Wallace has been asked to run these routes before, but he's so bad at it, that they don't ask him to do it much despite the fact that they have spent the last three years trying to get him better at it. He rounds off his routes, doesn't run them at the proper depth, and sometimes just jogs into his route when he knows the ball isn't coming to him.

    Again, this is not an offense that has one receiver that just runs vertical routes.
     

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