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The OFFICIAL Trade Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Trades' started by Mach, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    The Impartial Arbitrator hath spokeneth.
     
  2. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    where's his CBA interpretation :shifty:
     
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  3. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    They're going to bring up the trade clause but if the Redskins and Broncos wanted to, they would just have a gentleman's agreement to trade some garbage player for a 6th round pick... there's no way to enforce something like that.

    However trading picks for "salary cap relief" is complete and utter bull****.
     
  4. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    I DEMAND JUSTICE!!

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  5. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I don't trust your math skills or your reading comprehension skills.
     
  6. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    You got justice when you got FinO banned for a week or whatever... isn't that enough?
     
  7. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    how so? please interpret exactly where it says it can't be done.
     
  8. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    If we followed the CBA to a tee then a lot more bull**** would occur.
     
  9. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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  10. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    You know how you get can cap relief? Trade Adrian Peterson to the Dolphins for a 7th round pick. Instant relief!
     
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  11. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Hey it's the basis you want to build the GML around to make it more real, I'm doing my due diligence of going through the entire CBA. If I'm going through the legal paperwork to make sure its legal, it should be ok. What does it really do, hinders my ability to match some of the bigger contracts. You left it open if there's a gentlemen's agreement between teams ie: the jets and vikings it should be legal and doubt you want to go through and ratify a GML CBA right now.
     
  12. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    The same as teams going through and checking their "cap" numbers, at least I'm using a primary source to the NFL function to legalize my case.
     
  13. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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  14. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    We've NEVER done this I dont know why it is a shock that it was voided.
     
  15. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    schisno isn't shocked... he's just being confrontational about it because he can.
     
  16. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    There are certain things that we cannot do because you *******s would exploit it.
     
  17. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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  18. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    I'm just saying that if you are to void it, you need to show me where I am violating league rules. It's never been done before but that's because no one ever thought about it, and being someone who likes to go over the legalities of the league and its relation to the NFL this is a legal trade. Like I said, I'm referencing the Gruden deal, in terms of a large lump of sum being exchanged between teams.

    Nothing was ratified in terms of the salary cap and cash exceptions in the CBA.
     
  19. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Thank god cut free agency bidding begins tonight... in two days people will just be *****ing about schisno sniping their players then cutting the ones he signs under $550K.
     
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  20. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    We'll look into it next year.
     
  21. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    you mean I can cut guys 550K and less?
     
  22. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Meanwhile this completely ****s my strategy for the remainder of this year.

    Clearly this is an issue because Griddles has the Dolphins and wants to retain a competitive edge over a division rival.
     
  23. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Players signed under $550K.

    Player A you sign for $550K... you're stuck with him.

    Player B you sign for $549K... you may cut him if you please.
     
  24. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    You can look into changing the rules so I can't trade a salary exception next year, but for now it stands!

    Cause you can't even substantiate any violations to void it. Thank you, but we will follow the ratified league protocals next year.
     
  25. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    A division rival? Please... the Jets blow. The Bills are a walking fire sale. The Patriots traded Tom ****ing Brady.

    I ain't worried one bit.
     
  26. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    lol nope.
     
  27. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    It's true, how can he make an impartial call if he's a GM in my division and doesn't void it for recognized reasons. I defer this to Mach, who will go over the CBA and tell me where I have violated league rules in terms of the cap and trading.
     
  28. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    And the Vikings are caught in your little power game.

    Shame shame.
     
  29. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Unfortunately for you... I don't care if Mach agrees with your assessment of the situation.
     
  30. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    I've asked you several times to state why this traded should be voided. I don't see any reason too, we are both under the cap, we have our draft picks in order. Just because you say so is not a good enough reason.
     
  31. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    :jt0323:
     
  32. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Whine all you want, it's not changing.
     
  33. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    In the fairness of this game, I would like GIK to stop trying to take an unfair advantage to this game because of his position of power.

    He's taken an avenue that allows me to be and other GMs to be more creative and competitive in terms of league transactions. He has also failed to point out violations as I have asked multiple times. I am coming at this from a legal standpoint. I would like the commissioner to stop using his childish tactics to allow a valid trade to go through.
     
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  34. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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  35. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Silence, when a man can not come up with any more lies to battle the truth. The commish hath fallen.

    Trade valid! :yes:
     
  36. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Section 3. Management Rights: The NFL Clubs maintain and reserve the right to
    manage and direct their operations in any manner whatsoever
    , except as specifically
    limited by the provisions of this Agreement.
     
  37. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Yah and it was only allowed in the first place because the CBA doesn't cover coaches. The NFL immediately put the kabosh to trading coaches period the following year. Also the Cowboys/Redskins penalty was given after an UNCAPPED year...I don't get where you come up with overspending in a cap year when there was NO CAP that year.

    Sorry but GIK doesn't have to prove anything. The burden of proof is on you to show that the NFL allows this...and I can't think of a single case in the last 20 years that wasn't immediately shut down by the NFL.
     
  38. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I'm just going to go with some advice I heard from George Carlin... "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

    Your trade is void. It isn't changing. So please continue to ***** about it to get out of your system but just be aware that nothing will change.
     
  39. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    I did going through the CBA.
     
  40. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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