I swear if he runs anyware near sub 4.40 is is and will be a Miami dolphin!! Best ball hawk corner in this draft (IMO don't persecute me please lol) great on break on the ball, physical and very very smart. Anyone on board with this?? But only if milliner is not there but again if banks runs a 4.40 or under I'd rather banks please.
Check my sig! I am absolutely on board. I'm thinking my ideal draft would be Banks in the first and Swope at 42.
Should be an interesting day. Plenty of guys I like. Robert Alford, Adrian Bushell, Johnthan Banks, Sanders Commings, Terry Hawthorne, D.J. Hayden (may not participate), Dee Milliner, Xavier Rhodes, Nickell Robey, Logan Ryan, Tharold Simon, Darius Slay, Desmond Trufant, B.W. Webb, Kayvon Webster and Khalid Wooten. That's just amongst corners. At safety I'm looking at John Cyprien, Matt Elam, Josh Evans, Baccari Rambo, D.J. Swearinger, Shamarko Thomas, Phillip Thomas, Kenny Vaccaro, Duke Williams and Earl Wolff.
The best pick I saw all offseason was Banks int against south Alabama....lol, it makes me laugh how ridiculously good it was, reads the intermediate slant, leaps from the backside of the receiver, over the top of the receiver, without touching him, and picks the ball off in front of his face, I don't know how he did that?, when he landed he was back at his original spot where he took off, which was directly behind the receiver, then of course returned it 50 yards.
I also want to see Logan Ryan run. He has fluid hips and has great instincts as a corner. He just doesn't have good straight line speed on the field so I want to tsee if he surprises.
The 4 reps bothers me. 8 and 10 reps don't bother me for skinny CBs like Poyer and Banks. Well, 8 bothers me a little, 10 less so. But we're talking long, thin players. Johnthan Banks is 6'2" and 185 lbs, with 34 inch arms. And he's a corner. That's a triple whammy.
I do not really know upcoming players outside of the SEC (namely, Ole Miss), but I just watched this kid on YouTube, and he looks very good. Unfortunate circumstances. I read he is a mid-late round pick given the injury. What's your take on where he might get drafted? And do you think Miami takes a chance?
Xavier Rhodes isn't a safety. Watch him run stride for stride with Michael Floyd in 2011 and tell me he's slow.
I think Rhodes may be the best corner in the draft, just love his physicality. I have banks up there with Rhodes(different styles) but I can just not see anything in millner that I like. I know millner is long and not afraid of contact but I just don't think he excels at anything. I almost feel like he is already tapped out on his potential and first really offer anything you couldnt get with someone similar to his size. Does anyone else feel this way?
Would you fellows say that if a team plays mainly press man, then take Rhodes, but if they play mainly zone then take Banks?
Here is my take on Banks: Seems to look a little lost at times and seems to not put in great effort on a number of plays. Can be good in coverage, but can get burned badly (communication or him?). BAD tackler. Fantastic when blitzing. Not really going to blow anyone up. Slight frame. Prototypical height. Ball hawk. Not going to stick his nose in on plays, and will let his teammates clean up on his missed/whiffed tackles. Being from Mississippi, I try to watch the in-state schools, and from what I saw, I am not sold. Not really sure that we want a skinnier, less physical Sean Smith on the team.
It's not that he's slow to me. It's that sometimes I question his ability turn the hips, and also break from space. But I haven't done nearly the work on him you have.
He has fantastic hands, but my comparison was more generalized to his lack of physicality. Though Smith has shown he can be physical (and started the season off being pretty physical) but went back to his "whiff tackling" ways later in the year. I really do not understand it, either, because he is a big dude with a solidly built body.
I think his hips get sticky when he deals with quick movement at the LOS or in routes. Other than that I don't have an issue.
Hurt his stock there, with a good 40 he could've come into consideration with us at #12, but doubt it now when speed was the main concern about him pre-combine. Will be interesting to see what Rhodes does later.
FWIW, Seattle's Brandon Browner ran a 4.7 in 2007, just to give Banks some context I doubt he goes with a high #1 now though
4.61 (as reported at NFL.Com) - obviously troublesome. Milliner is going to go top 10-15 with that 4.37 (unofficial was 4.31, but the site now has 4.37). But, this could be good for Miami if they like Banks - he may be there in round 2. But, 4.61 is a big concern. Will be interesting to see what his pro-day is b/c that can change things.
Either that or passrush. They will lose Avril and released VandenBosch. Thin there as well. I bet they think they can get a higher rated rusher than CB in round 2-3 though, and they will probably be right.
Personally I wonder if Dee Milliner could go as high as #3 overall to the Raiders. That corner position for them was extremely problematic and they've got nobody there.
If you're looking for a press corner Sanders Commings looked good to me at 216 lbs, smooth in the drills and ran a 4.48 iirc. Josh Johnson looked really smooth to me, I think that he ran a good 40 but I don't remember the time. Kind of short, though, I think a shade under 5-10. Elam sure looked good in the drills, better than Vaccarro I thought, great back pedal and smooth change of direction, his hips looked good imo. Same with Johnson, good hips. Philip Thomas looked good, Duke Williams, too. Shamarko Thomas good, Rontez Miles was adequate moving but he's an enforcer, Zeke Motta better find another position.
Sanders Commings is good. I've got a lot of respect for Cordarrelle Patterson and one of the ways Georgia put the clamps on him was by taking Branden Smith off him and putting Sanders Commings on him. Commings snagged an interception. Really poor throw from Bray. A total WTF throw. Patterson was trying to go back shoulder at the 1st down marker and Bray threw it way to the inside.
I really wanted Banks to run fast...is he carrying an injury? He's got his pro day to make up for it anyway. Logan Ryan did well in the 3-cone, and shuttle but run in a 4.56, 40. He's good value somewhere in the middle rounds. Could be a very good nickel corner.
I have never been a huge fan of Banks, I mean I think he is a good player and all but he is not physical enough for my taste. The fact he is not physical and slow just make me go uuuuhhhgggggg… I actually like Slay better of the two though I dont think Slay is exactly physical either.
