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Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by ckparrothead, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Agreed, ughhhh, I remember when, when no one had him top 15...piss ***..
     
  2. Bpk

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    He's not a fit for us anyways. Better standing up by far.
     
  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is my strategy as well IF Dion and Sheldon are off the board, and if Starks is resigned then I would do it unless Jordan is on the board, I also think its a good draft to do if possible because in case Ireland wants to go corner, there are four that are pretty tightly grouped together,and one should be available later in the first without too much drop off.

    I don't see Jordan being there anymore so to me it's a real possibility, and would love to walk out of this draft with two first rounds picks by moving back up..

    Trade down, trade back in mock..

    Eifert

    Austin.

    Menalik Watson

    Badger.

    Hmmm, just playin a bit for now.
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And you would have phillip Merling.
     
  5. padre31

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    I believe he is taller than Merling is?

    No both 6'5, just seems like Moore is lankier than Merling was when he came into the league, and Merling never really recovered from the torn achilles.
     
  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He's a fit for any team that wants a great versatile player, I guess you would like to stick with a 31 year old Burnett who had o turnovers and questionable in coverage, who's 6'3 237 lbs..

    Not a fit my ***.
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    My point is Moore has a bit of sloppiness in his physique, if he Gains 25 lbs it's not gonna work, he needs to transform his musculature, not gain weight.
     
  8. djphinfan

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    I see Cordarrelle and Mingo dropping, don't see Ansah going before Dion.
     
  9. Bpk

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    Yes. I tell everyone I meet that I want a 31 year old and want to stick with him.

    Good guess.

    What I really would like, more than anything in the world, is questionable coverage.
     
  10. Bpk

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    Ansah, with his question marks, would be overdrafted if he went top ten.

    People seem to think he is Jason Pierre Paul. He's not.
     
  11. padre31

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    Hmm, knowing your affinity for men's bubbles, I won't argue the point Deej..:lol:

    He looked long and leanish to me Deej, 250 when he looks like he could carry 270 or more.

    But still, he is just not a high #1 pick, he probably is not a #1 pick at all tbh.
     
  12. padre31

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    I really do think Vernon winds up at OLB Bpk, to replace either Burnett or Misi eventually.
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    apparently so if your willing to pass on a kid with a skillset like Jordan..not a fit is not a legitimate reason imo, especially considering what we trot out there on Sundays.
     
  14. djphinfan

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    he does have symmetry, but the 250 he's carrying needs to be worked before he even thinks about gaining weight..he'll lose even more speed, and his ability to chase relentless which he does have will weaken.jmo
     
  15. padre31

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    Eh, needs lower body and core work to better use his natural leverage

    I will say one thing I do like about him and Mingo, they have "live' feet, ditto Jordan.

    When you watch them, their feet are always moving, but they are balanced and in control, rare for tall players

    Also like his change of direction that comes along with those live feet, those guys can move even if the 40 time isn't off chart in Moore's case.
     
  16. CANDolphan

    CANDolphan Well-Known Member

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    Kevin Burnett was one of the best 4-3 OLBs in the NFL this year, so I'm really not sure what your point is here. Also, he was graded incredibly high in coverage this year, at least according to PFF.
     
  17. Phinfanjt

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    No way is Floyd still on the board when we pick and if by some miracle he is you run, not walk the card up. He's npt getting out of the top 5
     
  18. Phinfanjt

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    He's not but it sounds like everyone is drooling over him. He may not be worth it but he's going top 10
     
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  19. Bpk

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    That would be good coaching.
     
  20. ToddPhin

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    that would be true in many years, but I think most of us would agree this isn't the strongest of drafts at the top of it. For instance, remember how much of a reach Tannehill at 8 was regarded by many, where as this year he'd likely be considered the unanimous #1 pick by KC.

    There's only 1 top 10 corner this year (where as the 17th picked Kirkpatrick would likely be a top 10 caliber pick this year.... along with Gilmore & Claiborne)
    There's no elite top 10 running back prospect like Richardson.
    No top 10 WR like Blackmon. (Michael Floyd might be a top 10 pick this year)
    No elite top 10 QB prospects like Luck, RG3, and Tannehill.
    No elite top 10 safety prospect like Barron.
    No elite top 10 linebacker prospect like Keuchley.
    Dontari Poe went 11th last year; he's probably a top 10 pick this year.
    Fletcher Cox went 12th last year, and IMO he might be better than Sharif Floyd who could go top 3.
    The pass rushers people are talking about potentially being top 10 material this year (Jones, Werner, Moore, Jordan, and Mingo) are not a better group IMO than the one drafted outside the top 10 last year (Irvin 12th, Chandler Jones 21st, Coples 16th, Ingram 18th, McCellin 19th, and Mercilus 26th).

    IMO only a couple guys this year would've been good enough to crack last year's top 10.
     
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  21. Fin-Omenal

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    Thee...Ohio State University

    I believe C. Patterson and K. Allen are better prospects than Floyd.

    Agree on all other accounts though.
     
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  22. ToddPhin

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    If Patterson had as many D1 reps as Floyd and Allen got to finish out the year uninjured, I'd probably put them ahead of Floyd, too.
     
  23. Fin-Omenal

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    Could be I just never thought much of Floyd, I dunno.
     
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  24. ToddPhin

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    That's possible, too.... but like I said, I'm not entirely disagreeing with you.
     
  25. padre31

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    Can't argue, in fact the gap between #25 and #40 in this draft is not large at all

    Another thing that stands out about this year is no really dominant running back prospects, really this draft class looks thin in terms of playmakers.

    Do think Smith will go Top 10 though, the league is just desperate for young Qb's prospects.
     
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  26. KB21

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    Here's a good article on Tyrann Mathieu.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21773662/2013-nfl-combine-who-what-is-honey-badger

     
  27. PhinsFan93

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    Have to disagree. Floyd deserved where he was drafted, Allen and Patterson probably won't. He ran a 4.42 during the combine at 6'3 and was great in the drills. Not to mention he put up 562 yards and 2 TDs with 3 different QBs and Larry Fitzgerald on the team in his rookie season. No doubt in my mind if he was in this year's draft he'd be the first receiver taken and wouldn't have any second-thoughts picking him at #12 unlike Patterson and Allen.
     
  28. Stringer Bell

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    Bailey too IMO.
     
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  29. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    if you've been reading this thread, I've made my point enough..
     
  30. Fin-Omenal

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    I understand his accolades and I may be wrong, but I just never watched him and thought he was a future star.

    Who knows though, everything you said about his rookie year made sense.
     
  31. CANDolphan

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    Whatever point you made is fine, but if it's being set in the foundation of a false statement that doesn't really change the fact that it's... false... ya know? I definitely think he's got maybe 1-2 years left with this team, but for the time being, Burnett is a very very solid linebacker. You don't create holes where there are none, and you don't try to replace talent when there are other holes to fill.

    Dion Jordan is a rather rare talent, I agree, but just leave it at that. To attempt to break it down with "Burnett needs to be replaced, he's not very good" is simply dishonest/incorrect.
     
  32. CANDolphan

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    And Floyd would be above Cox. His versatility down the line is just beautiful.
     
  33. ToddPhin

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    as opposed to Cox's versatility down the line?
    Cmon, man. The guy ran a 4.79 at 6'4 298 and had 39 tackles, 5.5 sacks, 4 PD, 1 FF, and 5 stuffs as a rookie.
    Also put up 30 on the bench, 7.07 cone (vs Floyd's 7.40), 4.53 shuttle (vs Floyd's 4.75).
     
  34. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Clean out your message Putz...saw it lol.
     
  35. ToddPhin

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    otay
     
  36. djphinfan

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    Never said he wasn't very good, just that he's 31, provides average production from the position,and is not a playmaker, you have an elite prospect staring you at 12 for the same position, we haven't had a player like that on your team with this skillset, defense is void of playmakers, your philosophy is to pass and stick with a 31 year old wh'os contract will be up, mine is to take the player that I feel is a blue chip that fell to 12, and adapt my roster..Trade or cut if I have to..

    How exactly are you going to improve this defense this year?....if Starks signs then I can make the same argument that you made against me, Dline should be out of the question because we have odrick.who exactly are you targeting if you want to get better?
     
  37. djphinfan

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    Did Sheldon Richardson not run any of the drills?, can't find anything but the forty?
     
  38. MrClean

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    There's a good chance Geno Smith is top 11 and I'd almost be willing to bet cash money that Sharrif Floyd is gone before pick 12.

    As for our remaining options, I'd include Jarvis Jones too.
     
  39. RoninFin4

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    Well, if Miami's drafting Dion Jordan, it's going to be to replace Koa Misi, NOT Kevin Burnett. Jordan would be that OLB on the opposite side of Wake, lined up on the line like Misi is. Burnett usually lines up on the same side of the formation as Wake, almost like an ILB in a 3-4. That's not what Dion Jordan is good at doing.

    The problem is, Koa Misi did pretty darn well at what they asked him to do. And personally, if you're looking to replace Misi and get some more pass-rush at that position, I'd be more apt to take Jarvis Jones than Dion Jordan. Jones is more complete IMO. Jordan has a higher ceiling. I think. But his floor is way lower than Jones.

    That being said, I don't think Miami touches that position in the 1st round all together, so I doubt they end up with either Jordan or Jones.
     
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  40. MrClean

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    No cone or shuttles. He lifted, ran the 40, did the vert and broad jumps only.
     
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