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Mike Mayock post combine position rankings

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by jim1, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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  2. Fin D

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    This would make me happy:

    1. Star Lotulelei
    2a. Stedman Bailey
    2b. D.J. Fluker
    3a. Ryan Swope
    3b. Shamarko Thomas
     
  3. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I'd need to see exactly what Lotulelei's heart condition is before I'd take him at this point.

    Does he have hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, or did they find something like a patent foramen ovale.
     
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    I think Fluker in late round 2 is very wishful thinking. He's more likely to go late round 1
     
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    Phinfanjt New Member

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    What ever came of the speculation that it could have been due to rapid weight loss, dehydration or high sodium intake?
     
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  6. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I dunno. There's 3 other tackles going first and this draft has a lot of other first round talent in a lot of other positions. There's bound to be a bunch dropping to the second.
     
  7. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I don't know any details.
     
  8. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Lotulelei was discovered to have an abnormally low Ejection Fraction, detecting that the left ventricle of his heart was pumping at only 44 percent efficiency, sources said. The normal range is between 55-70 percent efficiency.

    https://www.infinityauto.com/en/contact_information.jsp

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1542902-breaking-down-star-lotuleleis-surprise-heart-condition
     
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  9. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Thee...Ohio State University
    Banks uh droppin...
     
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  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Mortenson yesterday, after the panel was discussing the bills needing linebackers, looked directly into the camera oozing with confidence, said that after talking to NFL GMs at the combine, Dion Jordan will not be reaching the bills...point blank said it.

    Great player, was only a matter of time..the eagles desperately need oline, and there is a lot of good ones, but I don't see how Chipster passes on this rare freak player.
     
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  11. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I wonder if they did an echo at the combine then. I can imagine them doing EKGs and finding signs of hypertrophy on the EKG, but I don't know if echocardiography is a standard of the medical tests at the combine. It's interesting. I do wonder if his heart failure is due to DCM or HCM.
     
  12. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I would switch a couple.

    1. Jarvis Jones
    2a. Stedman Bailey
    2b. Carradine
    3a. Ryan Swope
    3b. Shamarko Thomas

    That would be a beautiful haul. Add in a TE like Escobar and it might just be perfect. I'd also consider Rhodes or Mingo at #12. I don't love taking low impact positions like CB that high, but with the rookie salary cap it's slightly less problematic. And Mingo scares me, but you can't teach that explosive first step. In FA, I would add a couple from the plethora of second tier CBs, one of the top tier WRs and a TE like Keller.
     
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    They did some echo test... Echocardiology? I am not good with medical terminology.
     
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  14. KB21

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    Yeah. Echocardiography. I order 2D echoes all the time. Well, I did when I was doing primary care. I am working in urgent care now. I like the pace of urgent care better.
     
  15. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I would bet on Jordan and Richardson not being where we pick at 12, so I think it's time to figure out a drop strategy.unless Jarvis Jones drops to 12, there are no other defensive players worth choosing over an offensive skillset player for me, I do not believe we will go oline at 12 for various reasons..

    If those three defenders are off..it becomes an offensive skillset top 3 board..Eifert..Austin..Allen...I think trying to trade down, accumulate more ammo, then move back into the late first would be an ideal strategy if my defenders are off the board..I think Eifert, Austin, Allen are close enough together where if we can drop a little, one of them will be there...select one, then use that extra ammo to move back in the late first..

    1) Tyler Eifert

    1) Tavon Austin

    2) Desmond Trufant

    2) Ryan Swope

    3) Badger

    Speed, instincts, and playmaking ability...excited fanbase..weapons for Tannehill, playmakers for the secondary..three biggest weaknesses on the team fixed...tight end that is a weapon, a blanket for Tannehill, a secondary that can now make plays on the ball, young confidence and talent added, receivers who are football players first, with nasty speed to burn.
     
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  16. Fin D

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    Oh yeah, I'll take that. I just didn't think Jones would be there at our 1 nor did I think Tank would make it to 2b. If neither are available at one, I'd take a safety.
     
  17. KB21

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    With Jones, it depends on just how much his cervical stenosis has been red flagged. Plus, he's not considered to be a great work ethic guy.
     
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  18. rafael

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    I think the two QBs will sneak up to the top of round 1 so that one or two of Werner, Jordan, Jones, Mingo will drop to #12. In fact, I saw Jeremiah's post Combine top 10 mock on NFL Network last night and Werner didn't go in the top 10 (Jordan and Jones did). I think Werner would be a really nice fit opposite Wake. (It would also be fun to hear Simon complain about it, LOL).

    I also considered switching Carradine and Bailey. My worry is that by draft time Carradine may move into the first. If his recovery allows him to have an impressive pro day, that's a possibility.
     
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  19. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Chip Saban is taking a LT or Jordan. Bank it.
     
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  20. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Mortenson knows something about Jordan..I don't know if it's chip, but he thinks he's going top 7 to somebody.
     
  21. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I've seen some recent mock drafts with not only the top 4 OTs going in the 1st, but Watson and Pugh also sneaking into the late 1st.
     
  22. djphinfan

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    Hey C, that dude in your sig looks really small and frail,what's he go for, 205?, oh wait, that's Tavon Austin..no wonder the kid didnt miss a game.
     
  23. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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  24. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    That's my guess too.
     
  25. alen1

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    Can you explain what all that means in layman terms? It's way over my head.
     
  26. Anonymous

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    They don't need a LT, they have Peters. So, I see Kelly going with Jordan.
     
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    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    you are right and someone is going to be very disappointed… Fluker sucks
     
  28. MrClean

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    Depends on how well Peters has recovered from his Achilles injury. He ruptured it two times. First in March 2012 and reruptured it in May 2012. IMO, it would not be certain he could regain the quickness he had prior to that.
     
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  29. MrClean

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    If someone plans to make a LT out of him then I agree. As a RT, I think he'll be a decent player along the lines of Phil Loadholt at least.
     
  30. KB21

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    The ejection fraction of the heart is a measure of the pump function of the heart. It is normally greater than 55%. If it is less, then there is a reason for it. Either the heart's ability to squeeze is compromised, which is the case when the heart becomes dilated, or the volume of the heart is comprised as in what happens when the heart muscle gets bigger in the case of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.

    The result is that the heart doesn't pump out enough blood, and as a result, things get backed up.
     
  31. djphinfan

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    if that were to happen we're talking 7 Olineman in the first...wow...I don't think we're taking oline in the first either so it could be a great draft to trade down.
     
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    Is this something that can be treated with drugs or surgery and sounds like it could be fatal if not detected?
     
  33. Bpk

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    I would love those first three picks. But would rather not take Swope there.

    And Larry English agrees with the bolded part.
     
  34. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    What do you think of the article I posted?
     
  35. Clark Kent

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    Where would you take him?
     

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