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Just read that Hartline is a done deal

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by MrClean, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    It makes the most sense for Miami too. Give him a 3-4 year deal with a big bonus.
     
  2. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    What's interesting is that 5 touchdowns in a season would definitely be a production spike.

    At $6.5 million a year, the people that like Hartline should be predicting he AVERAGES 5 touchdowns a season. At the least.
     
  3. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    I thought you were being clever, saying "6" a year....as in 6points per year.

    Maybe I overestimated you. How Ireland of me.
     
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  4. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    I thought you were jabbing at hartlines 6 tds in his career
     
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  5. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Actually I would resign Fasano and take a TE like Fauria in the 5th round. The would leave me in a position to draft a OT and guard in the first three rounds.

    1. Rhodes
    2a. M. Watson
    2b. Bailey (probably a lil high for him but dont want to miss out)
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    7a. Dont Know
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  6. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I"m not basing his value on some belief that he will continue to improve. He is a #2 and that contract is the market for a #2. My expectation going forward is that he'll continue to be a reliable, consistent target for RT. He'll move the chains and keep drives alive. He is capable of the occasional big game, but will never be a great redzone target. If he were then he would be worth a lot more.
     
  7. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Any official word on this yet? I'm on standby waiting to renew my season tickets.
     
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  8. vizi0n

    vizi0n Boom.. Club Member

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    Not seeing anything anywhere...

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. unifiedtheory

    unifiedtheory Sub Pending Luxury Box

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    Trying not to comment until I see the cap hit, term and how it impacts us going forward.

    In other words, nothing can really be put together until after the draft.
     
  10. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    And what of the opportunity cost by way of the number of TDs Hartline produces at the #2 role versus a different #2 with better knack for YAC and getting into the endzone?

    Having Hartline out there may move the chains, but having him out there istead of a guy who could average 4-6 TDs a year means you are choosing to restrict your offensive scoring output in trade for a QB security blanket.
     
  11. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Once Miami had a 4th and 16 on the 18. Tannehill threw the ball to Hartline, who got to the one. He didn't restrict the offensive scoring due to being the QB security blanket on that drive.
     
  12. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    The ****ing irony of Hartline not getting into the endzone, but making it to the one and going down as if there were an invisible forcefield preventing him from scoring surely isn't lost on you in this example supposedly demonstrating that Hartline is good.
     
  13. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Jibber Jabber, bleep bloop bleep.

    I can talk jibberish as well.
     
  14. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    And that guy will have other limitations. If he didn't then he wouldn't be a #2 and would cost a lot more. Obviously it would be great to have two perfect WRs that could do everything, but realistically they're hard to find and fit under the salary cap. So you need pieces that fit together in your system. So while we may find another WR that is a better redzone target, you'll probably be giving up consistency, understanding of the offense, rapport with RT, fitting in a #2 WR role, fitting in with the team culture, etc.
     
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  15. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Yup, that happened one time. :shifty:
     
  16. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    I will say, if we are pursuing Wallace, Hartline's dependability as a possession receiver could be viewed as a necessary balance.
     
  17. NolesNPhinsFan

    NolesNPhinsFan New Member

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    Think we can get away with Eifert in the first, and Allen in the second?
     
  18. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Because nobody's ever been stopped at the 1 on four downs. Ever.
     
  19. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I have the craziest memory for the most useless stuff, and a dumb determination to find it.

    http://www.miamidolphins.com/media/...-Offense/ecc06650-8ce5-4376-a712-4f460e9306ce

    The very first clip. It was actually 3rd and 16 on the 19. So if isn't the same play then I'll be damned because they're similar.

    EDIT: Actually on second thought, maybe it wasn't the same play. It's 3rd and Goal from the 19, they toss it to Hartline who goes down on the 2. So it's 4th and goal.

    But I'll be damned if someone asks why Hartline cannot score TDs and doesn't watch this. He doesn't have the skillset to muscle his way in. It just is, what it is.
     
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  20. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Really? I could of sworn it happen to the colts a couple times against the pats.
     
  21. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Not a big fan but as long as they land one of the quality TEs and/or WRs and draft a few then I can't mind it much.
     
  22. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I don't think so. Both are rated as top 20-25 players at the worst. Most have Allen in the teens. Eifert is often mocked at 20th to the Bears. More likely combo with Eifert would be Woods or Bailey in the 2nd IMO. I honestly cannot see anything about Allen that says he's better than Woods or Bailey.

    If we draft Eifert and Woods, then poor DJ. He's gonna have blisters on his palms from fapping little DJ in all his excitement. I expect he may also get cited by local law enforcement for running naked up and down his street in feelings of great joy and exultation. :yes:
     
  23. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I think we won't be aggressive on Jennings.

    It's going to be Mike Wallace all the way unless until he signs elsewhere. Then it will be Jennings. They should wait on Jennings b/c he is asking too much. Wallace will break the bank.
     
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  24. NolesNPhinsFan

    NolesNPhinsFan New Member

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    Damn.. Didn't think so, disappointing though. You ok with Woods? I'm leery of USC WRs.
     
  25. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    For a done deal there is very little press on it
     
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  26. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    One has 2 touchdowns in the past 42 games the other has 22 in his past 42 games
     
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  27. MikeHoncho

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    LOL. That would have been a good one. Crap, I shoulda taken credit when I had the chance.
     
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  28. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    There are a lot of players that don't have that skill, yet are very productive. The smart take from the strong.
     
  29. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I'm fine with Woods. I seldom believe in discounting a player because others from the same school and position haven't panned out. The USC Steve Smith was doing fine till he hurt his knee. So, it's not all USC WRs who bomb.
    Who has there been lately? Patrick Turner, Dwayne Jarrett, and Keary Colbert I guess. Too soon to know for Damian Williams.
     
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  30. NolesNPhinsFan

    NolesNPhinsFan New Member

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    He's not as explosive as Austin. I'd rather have him over Woods.
     
  31. Xeticus

    Xeticus Junior Member

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    No Tavon. Just say no to smurfs.
     
  32. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    yes Tavon. Book it.
     
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  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I love Austin, but if we take him we need to do it in the 1st.
    Given the choice of Austin at 12 and Ertz at 42, or Eifert at 12 and Woods at 42, I'd take Austin + Ertz.
     
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  34. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    If you were alive back then did you consider Mark Duper and Mark Clayton to be smurfs?
     
  35. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    What exactly does Mike Wallace bring to the table that makes those of you who want him think he fits in the West Coast Offense?
     
  36. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I hear he makes a mean potato salad.
     
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  37. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Any other confirmation than QAM?

    I hope they are right, but not they are exactly known for breaking stories...
     
  38. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And? Hartline isn't one of them.

    There are several skills that lend to touchdown hawking. Hartline doesn't have any of them.

    Extreme speed. Superior jumping skills. Superior change of direction combined with short area quickness or speed. Muscle.
     
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  39. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Love the sig, love the avy, love you you ole fart...how does one fap a a nine year old...

    That is his name btw..lol..I don't call him Dj, but everyone else does..
     
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  40. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lol...ughhhhh, ummm yeah, well not quite as good as twice as good..
     

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