Evan Silva @evansilva #Dolphins are "poised to make a major run at" & viewed as "the team to beat" for free agent Mike Wallace http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5329/mike-wallace
If they bring back Hartline, I can see Wallace being a fit opposite him. I just hope they get him for a tolerable price. That being said, I'd still hope that if they do indeed re-sign Hartline and sign Wallace, that those moves wouldn't preclude them from looking at receiver in the draft. I'd still be interested in Stedman Bailey, Quinton Patton, and Marquise Goodwin in rounds 2-4.
Other teams are thinking we are the team to beat based on need and our salary cap money. None of them have even talked to the Phins probably. I could see him going to the Panthers also.
Who knows? Bowe was probably viewed in league circles as a more complete wr. I can see Wallace getting a similar contract to what DeSean Jackson got...which is basically what I threw out there with more guaranteed money.
Is that a negative sign though? I would think the teams with bad cap situations are the ones that would go after someone like Wallace.
Wallace is not going to be had at "a tolerable price". I'm not opposed to getting him, but think that Jennings would be just as good an option (with Hartline). I'm not too optimistic that Jennings would be much cheaper either...
Points for creativity String. How about teams with soup sandwich WR corps and lots of cap space? Would they be interested?
You guys realize its easy to create cap space? It really isn't a difficult concept to grasp. Teams that have a history of giving out bad contracts are more likely to give out bad contracts in the future.
Tolerable is the operative word. But, I disagree about having both Jennings and Hartline. I'd want someone more dynamic opposite Hartline. Ideally, I'd pass on Wallace and draft Cordarrelle Patterson, but something tells me we're going CB or G at the 12th pick.
The other option is trusting that we can grab a couple plug and play WRs in the draft. I'd prefer that route over paying 11 million for Wallace. Not an easy call either way.
I like that too, but I don't think Cordarrelle makes it to #12...of course, if we don't get anyone other than Hartline back, then Jeffe has to go after him...
That's great. I am speaking specifically about the Panthers. Start a thread on your theory about free agent signigns, I don't understand why you're quoting me specifically.
Which teams might those be? Philly, Washington, NYJ come to mind. I'm not sure how those teams are more inclined to sign him than teams with WR needs and plenty of cap room.
If we take a guard at 12 I will leap from the stands at Radio City Music Hall and choke him out as he shakes hands with the Comish.
Hard to say with Philly and NYJ because of the turnover there. Chicago, Oakland, and Dallas are possibilities too IMO.
The problem is WR isnt typically a plug and play position as you know. There is, imo, only 1 real plug and play WR in this draft and that is....wait for it....a Baylor alum like JI.....Terrence Williams. Guy ran just about every kind of route imaginable the last few years. Why would you choke out the Guard when A) its not his fault B) he can still be productive C) choking out ireland could be so much more productive.
Wont be Washington or Philly because they have Garcon and Jackson locked up for the same role and big money. Wont be Dallas because they have more pressing needs and no cap space. Oakland just isnt attractive to anyone unless youre just asking for your career to die. Bears have little cap, other priorities (OL, TE, and resigning Idonije) and have Marshall and used a high pick on Jeffery. Miami Pittsburgh (IMO they will make a push to keep him) KC (They have cap and a need across from Bowe) Cleveland (They have cap) Colts (They have a ton of cap and how nice would Luck be with Wayne, Wallace and T.Y. Hilton?) Tampa and Cincy have cap space but have other needs and in Cincy's case are probably too cheap.
All three of them? Combined with BH and Wallace that would make for a young talented WR corps huh? We could still keep Matthews too, because last year we went into the season with 6 WRs. If we don't get Austin in the 1st, I'd like Goodwin as a consolation prize. I think Swope would be a better choice than Patton. Bailey is my 2nd favorite WR in the draft after Austin.
I don't see Pittsburgh as being a player in this at all. They have no money at all and haven't shown any interest in resigning him since giving Brown his contract.
Choking out the guard will get me more air time, and besides, the entire fan base will be After Ireland, I might not get to him in time. I agree on the WRs, they rarely contribute right away. That's the only reason I'd support going after Wallace. He might be limited route wise but you pretty much know he is going to come in and be a major threat day one.
It wouldnt suprise me if our top 3 WR come Sept are Hartline/Bess/Rookie. In fact it woyld surprise me if its not that.
Very possible. I haven't brought it up bc I don't wanna get flamed but it could actually work out ok IMO. It would mean we took a DE, DB or OT that was too good to pass on in round 1. We signed a Jared Cook type instead of a Mike Wallace type in FA. We'd be gambling that defense and run game can hold it down while the passing game got up to speed. Irish would have to wear a disguise just to get into the building. Certainly not out of the question but I'm hoping we go a different route.
Different situation. The Steelers are in a very bad spot when it comes to the salary cap and they just gave a big contract to a receiver. I think it's highly unlikely the Steelers are in on Wallace
Here is another nice article on the matter at hand. http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story...ns-biggest-target?campaign=Twitter_Darlington
No, not all 3 of them, just any one of those three to round out the receiving corps if you re-sign Hartline and sign Wallace. You'd have those two, Bess, Matthews, and a draft pick. I'd prefer Bailey. I think Quinton Patton would be a flavor Ireland and Philbin would like. It'd allow them to be more creative with Wallace and Hartline and moving them inside. There were enough 4 and 5 receiver sets that you can use one of them in the slot too in addition to Bess. Plus, it gives you some more time to get Matthews acclimated, as I think he'd be a prime candidate to replace Bess after 2013. Other than prior chemistry with Tannehill, I'm not sure Swope gives you anything different than Davone Bess does. He's cheaper, but...what else? People forget that Davone Bess was ALSO on pace for a 1,000 yard season last year until his back injury. And Bess showed he was adept at playing outside as well last year. Maybe that's just me, but I think we already have 1 or 2 Ryan Swope-like players on the roster in Bess and Matthews.
If he's already re-signed Hartline and signed Wallace, I think the fanbase would be more "civil" to taking a G at 12, particularly as one as good as Warmack or Cooper.
Agreed. Maybe 1 WR and 1 TE? But we almost have to sign a top tier receiver of some sort IMO. If not Wallace or Jennings then maybe Cook or Finley if he's cut. I'm an Irish supporter but if we hit April with Hitman and Bess as our top targets...Even I have my limits.