Welcome Back, Matt Moore

How was he soundly defeated by a guy who didn't even make the team?

But still? He came in cold and played well vs a division rival, after playing well, for a backup, for 12 games the year before. What else is he posed to do?

Seattle paid big $$$ for Flynn to be their backup and you called it solid commitment to finding a QB. I see a slight double standard there.

 

I think this illustrates how nicely this ties the hands of the Bills and Jets to find starters/competition:

 

@evansilva: With Matt Moore signed, top FA QBs left: 1. Jason Campbell 2. David Garrard 3. Chase Daniel 4. Drew Stanton 5. Josh Johnson 6. Vince Young.


LOL Gotta love that list! I do like Garrard though.

 

Man it's nice that we have some hope going forward with Tannehill. It'd be downright awful needing a starting QB on a year like this. I would feel so depressed as a Jets fan right now.

 

The price is a little bit high for my tastes, but this has been a truly refreshing start to the offseason. I don't think we've ever gone into FA locking up a couple of nice role players before it even starts.

With Moore, we have a known commodity who has proven capable as a spot starter in the NFL, and has spent a year in the system. It's a great fit, a short term deal, and protects us until Devlin or whomever is ready to take over the #2 role. It's a smart move from a franchise that has been lacking in smart moves in recent years.

Not only do we protect the most important position on the team, we put ourselves in a position of strength when compared to the other 31 teams in the NFL. With both Alex Smith and Moore off the market, who are teams going to turn to? Jason Campbell? David Garrard? Give me a break. Half the teams in our division are missing a QB. I'm sure that factored into the decision a bit.

Also, I really like what this can do for us down the road. We now have a serious bargaining chip at our disposal in 6 months, a year, 18 months. I would fully expect to hear Matt Moore's name mentioned any time that a QB trade is discussed - and again, that's okay. I've watched for years as the Philadelphia Eagles have made a living shipping off overpriced underperformers for high round picks. Maybe we can do that ourselves.

This is the type of move smart football teams make. It's refreshing to think of the Dolphins as smart again.

 

Am I the only one who sees this a trade bait down the road for a QB hungry team?

 

If Alex Smith is getting a second round pick, I think it's a possibility.

 

I seriously doubt either the Bills or Jets were going to pursue Matt Moore as the answer to their quarterback dilemmas. I think the Jets are in a staredown with the Seattle Seahawks over Matt Flynn and the Bills are full-on Matt Barkley.

 

Wait. What?

The Jests are interested in Matt Flynn but not Matt Moore? Seriously?????

 

The fact of the matter is Matt Moore started out on top of the depth chart from last year and then when the Dolphins released updated depth charts based on how the players were performing in camp, David Garrard was 1st on the depth chart.

So, uhh, yeah. Garrard was beating him in camp before he got hurt.

Paying Matt Flynn was about finding their starter. This is about having a primary backup. I don't see how what you said is relevant in any way.

 

This is basically a one year deal unless we need to keep him. Every team that has a young QB like to find a vet, well we have ours. I think they still draft a QB somewhere in this draft to groom behind Ryan. 2nd year is always tough because now teams have tape on you. Moore should help Ryan with his adjustments. Its nice to have a guy behind you that you trust and you don't believe is trying to stab you in the back. Like the deal. We have the money and needed a Backup QB.

 

Good move. I'm very surprised Matt did this though. Maybe his agent was kicking around and nobody was interested?

 

Yes, pretty certain of that. The Jets' General Manager John Idzik hails from Seattle and was part of the front office that signed Matt Flynn. Meanwhile the Seattle Seahawks are trying to insist that they're going to continue paying their primary backup to Russell Wilson about $7.25 million in salary this year. That whole situation reeks of a staredown over trade compensation.

 

I am happy with all the offseason moves thus far. Good job so far IMO.

 

Yes, pretty certain of that. The Jets' General Manager John Idzik hails from Seattle and was part of the front office that signed Matt Flynn. Meanwhile the Seattle Seahawks are trying to insist that they're going to continue paying their primary backup to Russell Wilson about $7.25 million in salary this year. That whole situation reeks of a staredown over trade compensation.

 

Good move. Surprising that Moore did this. I wonder if Moore's agent kicked the tires and not many were biting? I don't buy into the whole I'd rather be on a good team.

I'd rather start on a bad team than backup a good team, I'm sorry.

 

To be fair - Garrard was listed as the #1 QB and most likely would have been our opening day starter had he not been injured.

 

That doesn't mean the move isn't a sign of front office negligence. If you're doing your job developing quarterbacks then you're not forced to buy a super expensive insurance policy. Why has Pat Devlin been here for two years if not to be groomed to be Ryan Tannehill's primary backup? And if after these two years he's not qualified to do that, why did they think they could get away with a simple UDFA filling that role with the team?

 

He's proven to be a capable starter, especially as a stop gap for any team that wants to upgrade QB IMO, whether it be in FA or the draft. This year's crop of QBs aren't exactly that enticing. I can see a needy team taking a shot on Moore for the year and with the plan to follow our blueprint. Draft a QB next year and hope he beats out Moore. If not, again, I think Moore is more than serviceable as a starter while they groom their draft pick. Moore is definitely better than the FAs out there now.

With the level that Devlin impressed, they may very well be willing to move Moore for picks.

 

It is quite odd he didnt at least test the market, make you wonder. Unless it was a take it or leave it offer and he was comfortable in the position he is in.

 

lol @ super expensive. Bc most teams can't get away w a simple UDFA. That's why most teams are DOA when their starting QB gets hurt.

Yet you call re-signing a competent backup negligence? Okkkk.

 

Well at least the front office is spending money. Now lets just hope they spend $$$$$$ on Wallace, Bennett n some more big time playmakers!!!

 

I haven't seen a team sign a guy to a fresh contract and then trade him within that same year since the Eagles did that with Hank Baskett back in the day. It's extraordinarily rare.

Devlin's being impressive is exactly the point though. Why has he been developing for two years if not to do exactly what we just paid $8 million over 2 years to Matt Moore to do? And if Devlin has not been as impressive as everyone has been pretending, why weren't they looking for a better developmental option than a simple UDFA?

As for Matt Moore's attractiveness on the market, do you really think Matt Moore signs on to be a career backup without having his agent feel out the level of interest in giving him a starting job? Everyone knows and accepts that agents are and have been talking to teams about players (against the rules) for weeks or maybe even months, but suddenly we're making an exception to Matt Moore who chose to stay in the dark?

 

I like Matt Moore as a backup but $4 million would've been too rich for me. I'd have been more inclined to pay him half that and explain to him that unless he's that cheap then the thing that makes the most sense is for us to go with Pat Devlin as the backup.

 

It's not that simple. The $4 million represents opportunity cost. You could do something with that $4 million that would make you more likely to GET to the playoffs, let alone win the playoff game in question.

The questions remain. Why have we been wasting so much time developing Pat Devlin if we're going to turn around and make him irrelevant like this?

And I think too many people assume too much about Matt Moore's quality as a backup because of the one game last year. The guy's name was mud in training camp last year as he was being beaten by both David Garrard and Ryan Tannehill for the starting job. Many wanted to cut him. Most wanted to try and trade him. "Not cut out for this system" is exactly what most people thought of him. Now suddenly he's the best backup in football.

 

Matt Moore is going to be 29 when the season starts. What organization is going to try and sell someone that age as their starting QB?

 

The Browns?

 

And then he explains to you thanks but no thanks and goes elsewhere.

 

Probably. But who knows.

 

I also think that the $4M/yr. includes some type of bonuses for starting a certain number of games. If he doesn't play, likely around $2M.

 

If that's the case the deal becomes more attractive.

 

Well if it wasn't the Jets game that changed peoples minds then they're just directly contradicting themselves because during training camp last year most wanted to cut or trade the guy and most people acknowledged he's not fit for this offensive system. Now suddenly he's the best backup in the league.

 

This offseason so far has been crap. Overpay to keep your own players instead of having a handle on them earlier and re-sign them to more economical contract extensions. You may like this crap their shoveling, I need to see more. It's gonna be the same stuff next off-season when 7 more starters contracts are up.

 

That's not what happened here.

Thank you. This is what happened here.

 

I would also imagine that this year would be lower than next season and that it is basically a one year contract.

 

Playoffs?! You want to talk about playoffs?!

 

That could be, but the guaranteed money will play a part in this. I imagine that even if it is as you say, the guaranteed money assures that he's getting $4 million for his 1 year of service. If he's got a $3 million salary in 2013 and a $4 million salary in 2014 with $1 million signing bonus, then he got $4 million for his one year of service even if you cut him prior to 2014.