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Mike Wallace has signed with the Dolphins

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Jt0323, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    bingo… B.I.N.G.O….
     
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  2. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Yet that timing based offense took a massive step in reverse when we made Tannehill a statue in the pocket.. Perhaps Philbin has other ideas on how to use his mobile QB, much like the rest of the NFL has adopted. If Harbaugh could adapt on the fly and play to the strengths of Kaepernick, why is it so mind bending to assume that the coaching staff and the FO may adapt their strategy with Tannehill and roll him out more and give him space to make plays outside of their set formations?
     
  3. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Because we have been shown Philbin has had zero to do with personnel moves since he got here, right? This one just happened to go over regardless of his input?

    Come on bro.
     
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  4. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    One track mind… lol

    Does it ever occur to you that Joe Philbin may know more about football than you do?
     
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  5. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Flattery will get you nowhere. :shifty:
     
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  6. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Fine....what ever. My point is...your making statements as though youve consulted an oracle and they are written on some clay tablet some where. I understand your feelings on the issue. My only problem is how youve seemed to demean anyone who is actually happy and excited about this signing. We arent casual fans....we are here pretty much every day. Our offense will improve this season...thats a good thing. How much remains to be seen....but...damn...dont rain on anyones day.
     
  7. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    honestly answer us what leeway Philbin earned last year this so called offensive guru had us having our worst total offense since 2007 you guys remember that year we won 1 game
     
  8. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I can't speak to how Philbin is rationlizing it, but I doubt Ireland does this with Philbin being less than fully on board.
     
  9. inFINSible

    inFINSible Bad ministrator

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    When you count the extra receptions, yards, and TDs that we get from Hartline, Bess, Miller, and Cook (?) the value of Walllace increases, how do you give a tangible number on that value?
     
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  10. Gitrdone

    Gitrdone New Member

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    I myself know that fans will expect the ball to be fed to him because of the contract. I think he was payed for what he can do, he does it very well. He demands extra coverage and can take a 5y catch to the house. If he does what he did the first 4 years in Pitts and continue it here, i will be happy. Philbin must see something more in him to want him this badly, lets see how it all plays out. Then we can be happy, or ***** about how dumb Ireland was lol.
     
  11. Killer Bees

    Killer Bees Bringin' the Ruckus

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    Schefter "dolphins aren't done yet" :yes:
     
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  12. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Glad to see that Ireland finally did what was necessary to upgrade the WR position. I guess those reports that Philbin wasn't that high on Jennings must have been right after all. Last year he didn't want to overpay for Flynn and he obviously thinks Wallace will do much more for the offense than Jennings. I agree.
     
  13. inFINSible

    inFINSible Bad ministrator

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    If i was Philbin, and I'm not, I would have Tannehill throw to the open receiver, not the one with the biggest $ on his jersey. I'm not sure how Philbin will do it though.
     
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  14. Phins28

    Phins28 Up the Irons

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    Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
     
  15. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Tannehill is no Henne. Henne zoned in to Marshall and it hurt the team. Tannehill is properly coached and mentored and has a far better understanding of the pocket and where his balls need to go.

    This is going to be great, especially with the rapport he has already built with Hartline.
     
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  16. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    How Tannehill is used has nothing to do with limiting what you can do from the X receiver position to nothing but vertical stretches and all but eliminating the timing aspect of the offense based on the contract you just gave to a one trick pony.
     
  17. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    [video=youtube;Ugpg8XruhVk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugpg8XruhVk[/video]
     
  18. MikeHoncho

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    Sean Smith says "hi"
     
  19. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    YES!!!!!

    It's so nice to see something we've been talking about since October come true. Now, let's keep it going!
     
  20. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    we say bye!
     
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  21. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Half of your argument around this signing is that it is being forced on Philbin.
    Are you accepting the possibility that Tannehill may be used differently going forward, thus disproving the theory that Philbin is locked in to a specific style of offense that won't adapt to Tannehill's mobility?
     
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  22. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    You are talking about a GM that went behind his head coach's back and and accompanied the owner on his trip to court Jim Harbaugh. Basically, if Ross wanted Wallace, that's what Ireland was going to do.
     
  23. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    In a bid that quite possibly would have Miami hoisting a Super Bowl trophy in 5 years. After 35 years of ineptitude. I would say Ross made the right move with Ireland to upgrade the coaching position from the wreck that Sparano and Parcells left here. It failed. But I would make that move 1000 out of 1000 times if there was even a 10% chance of us landing Harbaugh. It was the right move then, and it has been proven to be the right move 2 years later.

    To make that jump and then infer that Ireland disregards and cares less about Philbin, who did a phenomenal job coaching and mentoring the team last year, isn't based in anything factual.
     
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  24. KB21

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    This idea that he will change the coverages the team faces is such an overrated aspect. I'm still waiting to see a quantity that applies to the value that brings.

    Aaron Rodgers is mobile as well, so the quarterback's mobility has absolutely nothing to do with the system Philbin brought here from the Packers. From a receiver standpoint, it has EVERYTHING to do about precise route running, interchangeability, and complete route trees that bring diversity to the passing game. Now, instead of diversity, we have an overpriced deep threat that doesn't do much of anything else on the field. Wait till you see his half assed attempts at blocking.
     
  25. inFINSible

    inFINSible Bad ministrator

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    I just watched a 4:30 minute highlight video of Wallace that was at least 70% slant routes....I'm sure you know more than me but, isn't that a timing route?
     
  26. Bumrush

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    Wouldn't a seam busting TE mitigate this, assuming that Wallace can't catch in the middle of the field?
     
  27. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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  28. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Tell me, how many crisply run out patterns and square ins did you see him run in that video?
     
  29. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    I'm excited for the new burner on the field for Tannehill to throw to.
     
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  30. GMJohnson

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    100%.

    Anyone who says it was wrong to go after Harbaugh is deeeeeep in the forest.
     
  31. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    So yes, you agree slants are not timing based routes.
     
  32. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I'm not sure how you mitigate the inability of your X receiver's route running ability.
     
  33. ThickbloodedPhin

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    I feel like I just married the flashiest available gal with a reputation of a one trick pony in bed and not the best with her hands when it counts. Oh had to promise a $65 million pre-nup too. So: cautiously hopeful
     
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  35. Gitrdone

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    Didnt Rice make a living on Slant routes? Yes before you say he ran all routes I know that. The slant was his bread and butter.
     
  36. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    EVERYONE zones in on Marshall. That's the kind of player Marshall is.
     
  37. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    There's a difference between agreeing with his opinion and valuing/respecting his opinion...

    KB is quite knowledgable about the game... although I disagree with him on this topic.
     
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  38. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    No. You have to zone in on him to keep him happy, or else he is a tremendous problem in the locker room.
     
  39. inFINSible

    inFINSible Bad ministrator

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    Truthfully, I wasn't impressed with Wallace at all. Didn't see one jaw-dropper in the whole video, and precise routes weren't in abundance, but what I did notice was his strong suit was bailing out Big Ben when the QB had to scramble for time....THAT is where he is going to earn his money ...clearing out the coverage for the underneath guys to work and taking the top off the D are about as much as we can expect. But that's somethig we NEED.
     
  40. Rocky Raccoon

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    The only argument I need in favor of Mike Wallace:

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