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Miami Draft Strategy

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Boomer, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    I was thinking that last night actually. Tavon at 12 then back into the 1st for Carradine (or option two- Cyprien). Then 2b is either Jordan Poyer, Gio Bernard, or Ellington. Then perhaps we trade up 3a for whomever we don't take at 2b.
    You heard it here first folks. I'm available all week. :shifty:
     
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  2. CANDolphan

    CANDolphan Well-Known Member

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    Id have some pretty large reservations grabbing Lacy considering I don't view him as anything special. 3rd round caliber.

    And yeah, I've actually heard from him that Ireland has attempted to make MULTIPLE moves to trade (both for players and draft day trades) that just don't work out. Like last year, Ireland was desperately trying to trade back into the 2nd round for Randle (WR) from LSU.
     
  3. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I could also see it being Austin at #12 and then back up for Eifert or Carradine.
     
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  4. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    I've been thinking that for a while, peep the mock in my sig.
     
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  5. Claymore95

    Claymore95 Working on it... Club Member

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    I hope it wouldn't be Lacy. Good back, but a 1st round pick is not something you use as a complement to your starting back.

    We have plenty of ammunition to trade back into the first round, but now is too early to say we definitely will. It all depends on how the 1st round goes, but it is good to think that we can if a player that we covet is available late in the round.
     
  6. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    the next dimension
    Lane Johnson at 12 then trade back into the first for Jon Cooper, :shifty:
    Oline= LT-Johnson LG-Cooper C-Pouncey RG-Louis RT-Martin
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I could only imagine the ****storm on this board if Miami uses TWO first round picks on linemen.
     
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  8. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    I'll be one I'd the ones squatting

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  9. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Yeah, like that's contingent on who we draft....sure.
     
  10. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    Just take WR Tavon Austin at #12....2a take CB Jordan Poyer....2b OG Larry Warford ......3a OT Kyle Long...3b TE Travis Kelce......4 DE Devin Taylor.......5 K Dustin Hopkins
     
  11. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I could definitely live with that. Add Dennis Johnson as a RB at 5b would suit me too.
     
  12. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    If we take a Tackle or guard @ #12 you can bet your *** we'll try like hell to get back into the 1st for a "playmaker"......

    Having a heavily criticized GM in a contract year, with the agenda to make a splash, i.e. sway voters ..... and all those day 2 picks to use as ammunition. I'd say it's as likely as it will ever be.
     
  13. cspooner13

    cspooner13 New Member

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    I really doubt we'll take an O-lineman with our first pick unless it's Lane Johnson, but I don't think so. We'd have to trade up to get Joeckel and I don't think we're THAT desperate to fill the hole. We'll most likely take BPA @ #12 then take our chances with the O-line later on
     
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  14. sports24/7

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    I have always thought it made a ton of sense to trade back into round 1 for Eifert. Cyprien could also be a possibility.
     
  15. jakezog3rd

    jakezog3rd New Member

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    LBsFinest, You have the best mock on the net. Hopes it happens!
     
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  16. LBsFinest

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    Taking a corner in the 1st couple rounds is a must.
     
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  17. cspooner13

    cspooner13 New Member

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    I'm a huge fan of this mock, I'd love to see it happen
     
  18. Jaj

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    Jonathan Banks is making more and more sense for this team. If they truly are going with a zone I can easily him on one side, Grimes on the other, with Marshall and Patterson inside. All of those guys can make plays.

    Perhaps they trade down and take him in the late first or early second, get Brandon Albert from that trade down, then continue to address the strongest positions through the draft.
     
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  19. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    I've always hated the idea of taking a lineman on either side of the football in the 1st round, unless that guy can get to the QB. However, with what we ve done in fa and not done to replace the great overrated Long, I wouldn't be upset with one of the top 3 tackles. I highly, highly doubt any of the 3 make it to 12 though. I'm not on the Austin bandwagon like most but given he might be the bpa at 12 I'd be thrilled with Austin so long as we traded back up to take Trufant. In a perfect world, we trade back and take Trufant then trade back into the 1st and take Carradine or Eifert. I'm not crazy about Eifert either as far as 12 goes and I don't think he ll be a pro bowler but we need a red zone threat and he d be perfect for that.
     
  20. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I've never understood how that works. How can a pass rusher be worth "X" and the guy whose job is to eliminate pass rush be inherently less worthwhile than "X"? Is it more important the opposing quarterback is rushed than it is your guy be free from rush?

    It can't be because of a relative inequality, because elite pass blockers generally "beat" elite pass rushers. It can't be the relative costs, because quality at pass rusher is generally cheaper than at tackle.

    If you are equating worth with what is the most dynamic and exciting thing on the field, you're fooling yourself.
     
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  21. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    No it's not a "must". We just inked Grimes, and the difference in talent between 2nd & 3rd round corners this year is slight.
     
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  22. Triggercut

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    taking a slot receiver in the first isn't a must, it'll be a big guy, strong up the middle.
     
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  23. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Like Star, if he slips?
     
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  24. LBsFinest

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    I've always hated this logic. you could have a handful of corners that you've given a 3rd round grade to and all of a sudden most of them are flying off the board in the 2nd. the draft is a complete crapshoot, teams reach, they trade, they rate prospects differently than other teams. you don't know where these players could go. it's like the people that say why Tavon in the 1st when we can get Swopes later on? as if it's that easy to target a player in the middle rounds and be fortunate enough to have all these other teams pass on the guy.
     
  25. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    No, I'm saying it's not a necessity to take a corner in the first 2 rounds like you are. If a corner happens to represent great value at one of those picks then so be it, but to go in with the notion of having to take one in the first 2 rounds is a poor way to run this draft.
     
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  26. Lee2000

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    The Dolphins are putting themselves in a position to not have to draft in a desperation mode. But they do need to be on the money with most if no all their picks to keep the off-season moving. I am open to anyone at this point, but I don't believe offensive line will be addressed in first round.
     
  27. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    IMO you should never draft in desperation mode. You're better off signing mid to low level FAs to short contracts than you are reaching to fill a need in the draft. Saying you "must" draft any position early in the draft is foolish.
     
  28. shouright

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    Supply and demand? Could it be that stud pass-rushers are more rare than their counterparts who are able to block them at least adequately?
     
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  29. cspooner13

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    We have enough picks that we absolutely should not be in desperation mode. I just made a blog post detailing what I'd like to see us do with the first three rounds of the draft. I'm too tired to type it all out here, go check it out if you're interested
     
  30. djphinfan

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    Copy and paste?
     
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  31. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think so. I'm not sure any position has as strong a correlation of performance to draft status as tackle does.
     
  32. dwhorton

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    i'm starting to think austin will go in the top 10. the titans are @ 11 and wanted welker so i really don't think he'll be there @ 12. i also think someone may trade up to get him.
     
  33. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    that's fine by me if it causes Millner to slide to us
     
  34. Drowning

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    The more I see of Lane Johnson, the more I'm on board for a trade up to get him. I like him more than joeckel. Murder me but I do. Joeckel is as solid as they come. Feet are amazing. Once he gets his mitts set on you, you're done. The ardent weakness I see in joeckel is his inside shoulder. Any de with a solid inside swim move will give him he'll all day long. But joeckel is not an option unless Ireland has lost his mind (IMO). Johnson is a bull. He's no where near as a nimble but I value strength over agility. From what I've seen, the man has never worn skates. His reach pushes des farther to the outside than joeckel by a longshot. And he can move mountains. I'm with a trade up for this guy. If we can't get an oline together, definitely draft Austin. We will need him for quick hits all day long.
     
  35. jim1

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    I don't know, I see Johnson as the more nimble and Joeckel as the more powerful. Johnson is long and lean one of the most nimble OTs I've seen with incredibly quick, athletic feet plus he's extremely fast.
     
  36. pumpdogs

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    I would love austin and eifert in this draft!
     
  37. djphinfan

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    Getting Eifert or Austin has been my strategy from when I started studying players this offseason, two best skill players imo in the entire draft, especially redzone, 1a 1a...Getting both would be a dream, can't even begin to explain how dangerously complimentary we would be, how much fear it would instill into our opponents, and how effective an offense with those parts would have the potential to become...lethal and three dimensional are the words that comes to mind.

    The thing is,with our resources, it's not that far fetched..

    There are other combinations that would excite me if getting back into the first round would be the strategy.

    I just feel like because of how bad we were offensively last year, we must aquire at least one of the two best skill players in the draft.
     
  38. invid

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  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Maybe Ireland thinks the same and trades up himself to ensure getting Austin.
     
  40. Alex13

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    agreed on that we need to get one of them
     

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