Browns could be looking to trade DE Jabaal Sheard

The evidence you cited says only that the team moved him from right end to left end. It doesn't say anything about resisting a move to right end. In fact, it says they had him at right end and then they moved him to left end, where he played in college. In his one game at RDE, he had a QB hit and 2 QB hurries, which isn't bad for a rookie in his first NFL game.

For what it's worth with regard to the Abraham/Sheard debate, Abraham has also been more effective from the left side the last few years.

 

Yet, your evidence did not support your conclusion that he resisted being moved. Just that he was tried for a while at RDE and moved back to LDE.

 

Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant by "resisted" to mean that it had to be active, attitude-based. That's not what I meant. He resisted the move by not being very good at it, and not progressing well, which is the same conclusion the coaches all came to and it was why they gave up on the experiment.

Though he only spent 35 pass rush snaps on the right side in 2011, his Pro Football Focus PRP was half of what it is on the left side that year. He didn't play a single snap on the right side in 2012.

It's certainly pretty strong evidence that he's a guy you're better off leaving on the side he's been playing since college.

 

The Cleveland Brown we traded for and is one of the three greatest players in Dolphin history along with Marino and Stephenson.

 

Perhaps I did, because it appears to me you created a new definition of the word "resist"

 

Oh look. An internet message board reply that quotes the dictionary.

Let me go find a condescending Wonka picture so that we can make this cheap, tired exchange totally legit.

 

maybe it says more about the other de.

The article only says that his improvment was helped by moving him back to his college spot.

I think you are making assumptions and then *****ing when people ask for you to explain, and they still don't agree, mainly bc you did not in fact provide evidence.

Back to the subject...anyone know if he is any good against the run?

 

Wonka? Who is that?

I really really doubt that was close to the first time a word definition has been posted on a message board or forum. If you felt I was being condescending, I apologize. It was not my intention.
Even after all that I don't see any proof Sheard resisted moving to RDE, either by your or Websters definition. It could just as well have been their coaches felt Mitchell was better off at RDE and Sheard was a wash. As Fineas pointed out, he really didn't do badly in his one and only 2011 start at RDE. Last year, the other 2 DEs, Parker and Rucker, could have both been so much better at RDE than LDE that they felt it was a net gain to keep Sheard at LDE, more so than his not being up to par at RDE. Maybe not too though. I just do not see any definite proof that Sheard resisted a move to RDE.

 

I think he is at least as good vs the run as he is pass rushing. That could be the main reason they moved him to LDE in 2011 and left him there in 2012. His run defense and lining up across from the usual strong side of the offensive formation.
I'd trade either 2nd rounder for this guy, if it were possible and up to me.

 

Mr. Clean, parrothead is absolutely right. When the Browns drafted Sheard, they hoped to play him at RE (though he played LE at Pitt). He was pretty much a disaster his first two games. He even said himself that he "wasn't comfortable" on the right side, and when they moved him left he played much better. That's the reason he was on the left, not that he was the best run defender, but that he couldn't really play on the right.

What Sheard gives you is great athleticism and effort. However, he'll overrun the outside trying to get upfield sometimes leaving big running lanes for a RB. He's gotten better at that, though. He is a terrific pass rusher on the left side and has been since he was a rookie.

While I'd like to get more than a mid-2 for a highly-athletic, somewhat-proven, high-effort, young and cheap DE with good size, reality tells me that's about what we could get. I personally wouldn't look at Koa Misi or Davone Bess as principal compensation for Sheard, but I don't work in the Browns FO. Browns have no need for a 3-4 DL, BTW, as they already have 3 excellent starters in Desmond Bryant, Athyba Rubin, and Phil Taylor with quality depth from Billy Winn, John Hughes, and Ish Kitchen, who all played very well as rookie DTs last year.

Questions about Sheard fitting into the new defense is what bummed me out to most when the Browns decided they were going to a 3-4 base. They were developing a really good young and deep DL but still missing that difference-making RE to be an elite one. Now if those silly talks about potentially moving Rubin or Taylor turn out to have legs, I'll be furious.

 

Thanks for the insight.

 

According to the game logs he only started the first game of his rookie season at RDE and had two QB hurries and one QB hit. While it maybe true he said he is more comfortable on the left side, I don't see how his results in his limited time on the right would equate a disaster. As you said, he played left side his entire college career, and had only been on the right side for his rookie preseason and 1 regular season start. IMO, it is entirely possible that given some more time, he'd have become more comfortable on the right side. Not definitely, but still possible.

Well, I guess we could sign John Abraham, he is getting old but been very productive on the right side. It seems to me though that waiting till after the draft could drive his price up, if we don't address the position in the draft, hence giving him more leverage.

 

Maybe is john Abraham who wants to sign after the draft? Hes most likely going to be signed to a incentive laden contract and if the team is signs with also takes a talent rookie DE then his chances to maximize the incentives on that contract are reduced.

 

Very good reasoning. That makes sense.