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Report: Jamar Taylor has kidney problems

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Serpico Jones, May 1, 2013.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Jamar looks like a nice player, at a position of need, at a great value..
     
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  2. First off let me start by saying I know less about medicine than I do the dark side of the moon, but doing a quick search I did come up with an article that seems to support the OP story.

    http://www.ehow.com/facts_6371498_effect-pressure-medication-chest-kidneys.html

    Again let me say I know nothing on the subject. Just passing along some info that may or may not be useful. According to this story there are some BP meds that can cause kidney damage. Jus say'n
     
  3. Justright

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    You don't have to. It sounds like it's acute. His kid kidney function will improve.
     
  4. ItsDFresh

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    Lets hope he stays ultra hydrated with that transition to the south fla weather.
     
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  5. Justright

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    The article is wrong. Blood pressure meds help the kidneys. I know of none that cause kidney damage or have side effects that damage the kidneys.

    And I'm a PA and work in the vascular field.
     
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  6. Stringer Bell

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    Combined with other meds, they apparently can. Reportedly the issue is that he mixed his BP meds with anti-inflammatory meds.
     
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  7. MrClean

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    Boise, Idaho isn't exactly some 3rd world country. No matter what though, since the drug he was on before has this potential side effect, especially in blacks, I wonder why he wasn't put on the high blood pressure med that he switched to now, in the first place. Seems to me the doc that prescribed the original medication was negligent by doing so.
     
  8. Justright

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    The NSAIDs, as previously mentioned, may cause damage... With or without BP meds. And those effects are reversible once the meds are stopped
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Kind of is.
     
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  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    It's kind of not.
     
  11. RoninFin4

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    I'm happy Jamar Taylor is a Dolphins, and hopefully he's starting opposite Brent Grimes week 1. Come to think of it, as it relates to Jeff Ireland's being more of a "risk taker" than Joe Philbin, you've got from this offseason:

    Brent Grimes - Achilles tear in 2012
    Dion Jordan - recent labrum surgery
    Jamar Taylor - kidney issues
    Dallas Thomas - recent labrum surgery
    Lance Louis - ACL tear in 2012

    I wonder if that's what he meant, because when healthy, I don't see any major risks with signing or drafting any of those players from a character standpoint or a production standpoint.
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Spoken like a person who has never been there.
     
  13. MrClean

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    I've been there. Have you? If that is your idea of a 3rd world country, I'd say you have never been to a real 3rd world country.
     
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  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I was there last week
     
  15. Bpk

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    That's precisely what I graded it after rounds one through three and the remaining rounds didn't change the grade.

    If we hit on two players, Jordan and a CB, out of this draft I will be relieved at this point. Impossible not to think of what might have been however. Could easily have left this draft with four to five potential starters.
     
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  16. ckparrothead

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    If you buy that Dion Jordan is going to be an impact pass rusher in the NFL then it's hard to give below a C for this draft. But to me they could've done so much more than Jamar Taylor, Will Davis, Dallas Thomas, Dion Sims, Mike Gilislee and Caleb Sturgis.
     
  17. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    So it is real fresh in your mind. If that is your idea of a 3rd world country, then you ain't seen a real one.
     
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  18. djphinfan

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    I have some of the same feelings about some other players and direction, just one question, what corner would you of taken at 54, it was a desperate position? And who in the third where Thomas went, which was another need position?
     
  19. Phoenician Fan

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    IMO you are being generous, and I liked the move to get Dion Jordan. I'm one of those who believe in his high ceiling.

    I hated the rest of the draft and there is only one UDFA that even interests me.

    There were several really smart, really athletic, very strong leaders, available in the mid and even late rounds and we didn't draft any of them.
     
  20. Just sit tight and wait another 3 years and the whole country will be...
     
  21. http://www.livestrong.com/article/186645-drugs-that-cause-kidney-failure/

    Blood Pressure Medications
    Angiotensin-converting enzyme, or ACE, inhibitors as well as angiotensin receptor II blockers are blood pressure medicines that can cause renal failure by their prerenal effects on tiny blood vessels in the kidney. Diuretics, drugs that lower blood pressure by decreasing circulating volume, can also cause kidney failure through their prerenal effects as well as direct toxicity to kidney tissue.

    I have a nephew who is a ER RN, and he said that when a patient comes in with signs of kidney failure, one of the questions he is supposed to ask is "are you on medication". He said one of the things you are looking for is blood pressure meds. He said in his limited experience with BP meds effecting the kidneys, the problem is usually fairly simple to reverse. He said he didn't know of an instance in his experiences where BP meds had caused lasting kidney damage, but said it was probably possible.

    Again I personally know nothing on the subject.
     
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  22. CANDolphan

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    Oh maybe he's just exaggerating for the sake of humor you sour puss
     
  23. We live in the age of over sensitivity. You are not even allowed to say you don't understand something, without causing a crapstorm.
     
  24. Justright

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    Your article, like the one in the OP, is giving half/false info. While true that diuretics can cause strain on the kidneys due to the fact that they cause them to work more often and ACE inhibitors can also affect kidneys they won't, on their own, cause renal failure unless the patient has other problems such as renal artery stenosis. In short, if the patient has kidney problems, they may make them worse.

    however, Taylor has high BP and high BP meds prevent kidney damage in these cases. The INSAIDs he was taking hurt his kidneys... Which, again, is temporary.
     
  25. Yeah that is kinda what I got from what I was told also. Don't think the OP was intending to mislead on purpose, he just gave a quick idea to the public about what was going on. Whether or not the BP meds by themselves were what was causing the problem really wasn't the issue. Taylor was taking BP meds that were at least partly to blame, and the result was 42% kidney function. Thankfully it was caught and probably won't have any long term damage.
     
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