so sad Andrea is gone. Carl is a mini governor. They need to sweep the prison for walkers if they are going to stay there. I thought the prison group was running out of food. Told you Morgan wasn't going to be back this season.
I thought season 1 was amazing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, losing the show's creator Frank Darabont was a massive blow. FD had such an amazing vision for the show and AMC really dropped the ball (quality wise). Season 2 and 3 are both great and terrible. They're really polar opposites. The first half of season 2 sucked (a couple of good ones though, like Shane's episode) and the second half was much stronger. Season 3 started out amazing. First half of the season was so good. The second half failed miserably. Only "clear" and "This sorrowful life" really stood out. The finale was anti climatic... -Thoughts on season finale- - Started strong with Milton, Governor, and Andrea. I thought the Governor was going to try and twist Andrea's mind and win her back. Glad to see it didn't go down that road. Thought the whole thing was compelling. - The big battle? Interesting. At first, I hated it. Then, I thought about it and realized I liked it. I liked that "normal" people were able to be frightened off. They weren't Military or anything. Just average Joes. They reacted as they should have. Score one for Merle, taking out 8 big dogs, leaving the Gov with just Martinez and the black dude as muscle. The show didn't deliver a huge epic battle (which I was looking forward too), but it stayed true to realism. And set the stage for character development. *Although, I hate the prison... I hate the set, scenery, etc... I would of preferred a season of moving around and survival. but AMC is too cheap to give TWD a budget. Which is why the show is straying so far away. I think the Gov. hunting them around Georgia would of been cool. Imagine the Andrea episode (where Gov chases her around) where the Gov plays cat and mouse with Rick and Co. - The Governor lives: I like it. Although I'm not super versed in the comics, I know the Governor is hugely popular. In fact, Robert Kirkman (TWD comic creator) even wrote prequels (Rise of the Governor) about him. He's the Darth Vader of the franchise. Killing him serves little long term purpose. I'm interested to see what happens with him down the line. So many possibilities there. - Andrea: Thank god. Really. Thank god. If Merle died and that dumb bish got to live. Oh lawwwd, I'd be pissed. About time TWD killed the boring people instead of the interesting characters. I miss Merle... Just sayin'. - Prison: No idea where this is going. It's now a community? What does this mean going forward? TWD has always been about people's decisions and actions in a survival scenario. I think this is a red herring. While fans didn't get the big fight and deaths in this episode, it's coming. TWD doesn't want to kill it's main cast (unless they get too interesting like Shane or Merle) so the new crew are cannon fodder for season 4, I think. Plus, it gives them a chance to create/cast interesting new people, for what I believe will be Rick's future clan. I expect massive deaths in season 4. All in all, good, not terrific finale. Season 1 and 2 were better, IMO.
As a big fan of the book, I feel Kirkman is quickly approaching George Lucas territory! My only hope is that the end of the season is the reason they changed show runner's again.
I hated the Finale. It would've been fine in mid-season, but they hyped it for 3 weeks saying it would be shocking and provide closure - which I don't really see. Most of the things that drag the show down are all coming back for season 4 - they'll still be at the prison - but now with a bunch of extra people that will slow down the storyline. The Governor is still alive - which means we're going to just have a bunch of additional episodes teasing a battle or closure without providing it. So next season is more or less going to be this season, but with more dead weight and Carl acting all angsty (which means a ton of episodes of him acting out and Rick looking confused.) I just feel like the Prison / Governor storyline got drawn out for so long it's hard to get excited that it's picking up right where it left off.
I don't remember where I heard it, but I thought Glen Mazzara was let go because of the finale. NOT because of the finale we saw last night, but he went in another direction and Kirkman wasn't happy with it. And then Kirkman re-shot the finale. I don't think I can blame Mazzara for it. He was excellent on one my favorite series The Shield. You could absolutely tell the difference between his show running and Darabont's from Mazzara's very first episode (S02E08 I believe). I'm not sure I like the direction the series is going, by starting to stray so far from the comics. I loved some of the little things that gave a nod to the comics from early on in S3, (the freezer in the comissary,Andrew and what he did,Tyreese showing up; and he cant shoot a gun worth a damn,) then it just like totally took a different turn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Interesting. Would like to know more about this situation. He's been in charge since season 2 and has done nothing but drop the ball. Good riddance. The new showrunner (Gimble) has been responsible for all of TWD's best episodes since season 2. These include... - Shane killing Otis. - Shane opening the barn - Rick and Shane throwdown - Merle hunting Michonne - Morgan's return - Merle's redemption I'm much more excited for season 4 with his direction at this point. As I said, **** Glenn Mazzara.
I liked the episode hated the way Andrea died but it is what it is. Next I'd suspect they have to clear the yard and start planting stuff. The way I see it, Andrea was a peacemaker and the show is not about making peace, the Gov killed most everyone and now I'd suspect he is going to make "his" army, and thought the group's strategy was brilliant guerrilla tactics. I sort of knew what was coming when they left the cell block doors unlocked but thought it would have been funny if they'd locked them and the whole assault stopped at a single locked door. Come in looking all tough only to have a confused look on their faces "anyone have a key"?
I'm not sure how you figure Gimble is responsible since like I said, Mazzara has been in charge since S02E08. (First ep after Sophia came out of the barn. He was the show runner for the entire season 3. I don't think there was any episode in season 3 where MazAra wasn't in charge. Gimble only directed/wrote a few AFIK Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Really wasn't expecting Andrea to go out this season. She was in one of those situations where either help comes or she escapes in the last minute, that you normally see. I wasn't expecting the Guv'na to wipe out his whole squad like that either. His character has climbed another rung higher on the King ******* ladder. And what looked like a lot of feeble/older people climbing off that bus at the end, will just slow them down if they need to escape quickly down the road. The way Carl's headed, he could thin out the herd, though.
by responsible, I mean he wrote those episodes. Which makes him responsible for some of the best episodes post darabont.
Carl could join forces with the Guv'na next season the way he thinks. How would that play out with Rick and his clan? I liked the episode when Andrea was captured and the Merle redemption one. Two great episodes in my book. At least the guv'na didn't kill the hot brunette.
Is Carl wrong? If we're to judge on our society's standards, maybe. But in the world of the walking dead? Eh... Besides, Herschel told the kid to drop the weapon. Instead he walks forward with it in his hand. My first impression is that he was trying to trick Carl. After seeing it again, he was just really scared and didn't do what he was told. Ever watch an episode of Cops? Cops order people to do all sorts of things, and the perps always do the opposite. "Sit on the ground" and they kneel instead. "Keep your hands up" and they put them behind their backs. ATEOTD, Carl didn't make that distinction. He reacted to the world that currently exists. And I kind of agree with the Gov. You kill or you die. Or you die and you kill. Makes a bit of sense. Problem is, he's bat **** insane on all other accounts, so his one interesting point gets lumped in with the rest.
Did anyone else think just after the Gov gunned down his own people, when he was walking out into the field with a gun in each hand, that he was going to kill himself?
Cannot kill one woman and not replace her with another one.. Way I see it though, the group will be really heavily armed now as the Gov did not police up the weapons from his own people and they left the 2 deuce and halfs etc If I could swing it, I'd put up wanted posters of the Governor everywhere I went that would really mess with him.
We might not ever see the Governor again. There is no way he could build up another army to take the prison over at this point. The show doesn't really follow the source material at all so there's no way to predict what will happen but at some point something catastrophic will happen to make them leave the prison. (at this point I'm guessing that herd catches up to them) Taking in all those old people will problem end up being a huge mistake, there's no way they can leave the prison safely now will all those dependent people.
Well, the way I see it breaking down is Hershel the farmer will have to get busy planting and those older folks can help with stuff like that in the short term. Hershel is an old guy but tough as nails, he managed to use that glock just fine. Real danger for the group is they are going to have to sweep the rest of the prison with that hole in the Admin building there is no telling how many walkers are down there.
Well yeah in the Comic lots of time was spent with them clearing out the Prison and turning it into a real home (farming included). It was only later that they were introduced to the Governor. With a larger group they'll have to stay at the prison for large parts of Season 4. I can see the same people belly aching about them in the prison like how people hated the fact they spent so much time just talking in the farm. The show is good when there's danger from humans, the zombies just end up being a manageble side show. The Governor recognized this.
I'd think there will be less drama with so many people now it is hard to just focus on one thing like they did at the farm. And they'll have to venture forth for everything from seeds to a tractor to meds etc. Why I do think is funny is that one can of baby formula sure is lasting a long time..
...and the only time it ever rained was way back one in season 1 when they were draped in walker guts
That can't be real. His glasses weren't on at any point in the finale. Suddenly now that he's a zombie, he needs to see? And what's with the chain around her neck. Don't remember that. I think I just dropped my ear medicine.
Lawns are always mowed...I personally liked how manicured her toes were while going for the pliers. They have landscapers and mani-pedis in abundance in the zombiepocalypse.
C'mon, the governor is bat **** crazy, but he ain't banging anybody with busted up feet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yeah, sounds like that is a still from an alternate filmed scene as described by the actor playing Milton. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s1...alternate-version-of-season-finale-twist.html
I watched the finale to see if the show has gotten any better. Breaking Bad can't get here fast enough.
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It was hit or miss, IMO. The finale was disappointing but it'll be interesting to see where they pick up.
Unfortunately, I think the big bang finale we expected will be at the end of the NEXT season..which means a lot more of what was going on THIS season. My opinion of course, basing it on everything i've read and seen.
