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Report: Dolphins stadium deal looks dead

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Serpico Jones, May 3, 2013.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    but that doesn't have anything to do with Goodells choices?
     
  2. ASOT

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    and the County was wisely silent on the issue. And as a taxpayer, I thank them for the one time moment of brilliance.
     
  3. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yeah. The Mayor even said as much on the conference call. He said subsidies are given out all the time in exchange for job creation, etc. He said the reason this one is so wide known is because its the Dolphins and a high profile entity.
     
  4. ASOT

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    Well this is the arrogance of the NFL. Bully us and refuse to give us a SB because of some rain, and yet have all those millionaires sitting outside in 35º weather.

    I hope they have a blizzard the night before the game this year.
     
  5. PhinishLine

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    Not quite sure about the question. I do know that fans and a lot of members of this forum have said the stadium should be smaller because of attendance, intimacy with the field, and the game experience. I don't know which items are being pushed by Goodell, but from what I've heard here amongst the folks that go to games in Miami, the configuration of the seats was an item that members were critical of.
     
  6. Hellion

    Hellion Crash Club Member

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    Here and there
    No not before, during the game. complete freaking whiteout.
     
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  7. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Tri-State area has the population density that any bad weather will likely be a non-factor to the bottom line. Tri-State area has more people that live there than the city of Miami would have during the Super Bowl I imagine.
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I understand the we are aware of our stadiums inadequencies, but I'm pretty sure reconfiguring sections was not part of Goodells reasoning on why we would remain out of the loop. So I'm just thinking what is it that he really believes we should fix, then just try to fix those things, which would probably equate to a roof, some new seats, and some extra kitchen equip...I really can't see him complaining abut anything else..
     
  9. Stringer Bell

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    The revenue is the same. Teams that don't own their stadium aren't giving revenue from Rhianna concerts to the county LOL.
     
  10. Stringer Bell

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    There is no bullying. It's a competition. Miami lost. Miami will continue to lose because the stadium isn't as good as others.
     
  11. ASOT

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    Well 1st of all it isn't on ALL of the legislature. It's all on one man, Mr Weatherford of Wesley Chapel. He is the man in charge of getting bills onto the house floor, and he promised Ross he would, and then didn't do it.

    Also remember that his district, is very close to Tampa, which also competes with Miami for Super Bowls. I wholeheartedly believe that was the very reason he made sure that bill never made it to the floor.
     
  12. ASOT

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    See what I mean about the rednecks from north of Lake Okechobee ? This is their typical attitude towards the part of the state that regularly funds most of their projects. It's well known that Miami-Dade County only gets back about 67¢ on the dollar it sends to Trailerhassee.
     
  13. ASOT

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    The only reason the game is being played there is to reward the Jets/Giants franchises for getting that stadium built. As was Indianapolis was rewarded because they built Lucas Oil Field. It has zero to do with anything else, as SB's will be sold out regardless.
     
  14. ASOT

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    Absolutely its bullying and strong-arming us. Its a case of "if you don't do what we say you don't get any rewards" that's bullying.
     
  15. PhinishLine

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    Its not just about ticket revenue. A lot of peripheral events and fundraising surrounds the SB. You need people out and in the streets. As many people as possible. Only ~70k people can go to the game. Waaaayyy more than that actually enter the city. It's not about selling out the game.
     
  16. JMHPhin

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    No its we have more attractive stadiums that we can attract the biggest money players there is. This is what they prefer if you want to be a part this is what it takes. its called the market, you are competing against newer venues, more attractive venues your facilities not as nice/glamorous/ritz-glitz as others. You lose
     
  17. Vertical Limit

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    In a dream world, Joe Robbie would have relocated us to another stadium for 3 years, demolish the OB and build a new stadium at that location. Instead Loria has that location undeservedly.

    I haven't gone inside Marlins Ballpark and refuse to do so because of Loria, I will go to a game if he sells the team though.
     
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  18. 54Fins

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    over there
    This was a 9/11 tribute from a long time ago. That's the only reason they got it.
    It won't happen again for a very long time.
     
  19. dirwuf

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    In MY dream world, we somehow kick the Marlins out of their new stadium and renovate it for football...
     
  20. electrolyte

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    Go to any market in the country and you will see empty seats in EVERY CITY where the team sucks.Dolphins fans were actually quite resilient to all the losing for a long while. I am sick and tired of people acting like Miami has to fill the stadium for a crappy product on the field for the last 20 years.

    Go to ANY sport, in ANY city, and you will see an empty arena/stadium during the prolonged losing years. Period.


    And Ross can AFFORD this stadium himself. He's a -multi billionaire-. He can afford 600 million investment for his private business.
     
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  21. Stringer Bell

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    Dallas Cowboys. Washington Redskins. Hell the Tennessee Titans had 100% attendance last season!
     
  22. Vertical Limit

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    The attendance issue is a collective issue of many things that has been wrong with the Dolphins.

    From fan experience (sitting in that stadium at 1 PM is equivalent to throwing a steak on a hot pan).

    Then there's no stability (6 head coaches, 2 of them interim HC's, 3 different GM's).

    Then of course we haven't won.

    Then until last year we finally stopped ignoring the QB position.

    And many other things.

    But either way I guarantee that if Tannehill is the real deal, the fans will come to the games. This city rallies around a quarterback. Hell Tannehill would be bigger than Lebron in South Florida at least if he's the real deal.
     
  23. djphinfan

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    How dare you talk about a concept like that, don't you know that the hotels are full anyways..lol
     
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  24. djphinfan

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    What?????, there are other world class venues out there that are better than our facilities thus resulting in the game going to them first and our city being content with losing out and not understanding what we need to do to stay in the loop???? You don't say..
     
  25. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Stephen Ross did not become a multi-billionaire by investing in losing propositions. Without local support, Ross has no incentive to do anything but maintain his stadium for his team. The field itself is one of the best in the country. He's already offered to give the stadium to the county. The county can't afford that kind of expense and loss of property tax. The stadium is already a huge liability for Ross. Why on earth would he pony up any more money for events that benefit others way more than him?
     
  26. PlanB

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    Wow. Just because I choose to live with less traffic, crime, and more room for fishing , hunting , and four wheeling why turn this into a racist rant? Miami Dade is a shell of what it once was. its over run with crime, drugs, and I HATE going there for Dolphins games. I get off the bus and go straight in. Driving through Miami dade is shocking. Whatever they are using their Tax $$ for its not going to keeping the property values up. Good luck and again, I hope the city chokes on this. HARD.
     
  27. electrolyte

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    Article from before the 2012-2013 season started, Redskins, attendance kept falling. -

    Attendance fell 7.5% for the Redskins at FedEx Field last year as the team endured its second straight losing season under $7 million-a-year head coach, Mike Shanahan.

    http://www.forbes.com/teams/washington-redskins/
     
  28. PlanB

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    Because he LOVES the limelight. Its what Billionaire's can't buy. Fame, rubbing elbows with the everyone who wants in on his game. He wants Superbowls. He wants to a star. All he has gotten since buying the Phins is the Finger.
     
  29. electrolyte

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    1) He should pony up because his football team is the primary user, regardless of anyone else profiting or not profiting.

    2) If he doesn't want to spend money on the stadium in which his football team plays in, then he needs to sell the ****ing team. Joe Robbie didn't ask for a penny from the city and he built a stadium.

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    100% PRIVATE FUNDS.

    It's his ****ing team. He doesn't think it's a good investment? Then sell the damn team and get the **** out of sports, and go back to number crunching stocks or selling real estate where the only motive is making money.
     
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  30. Stringer Bell

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    And the Titans???
     
  31. Stringer Bell

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    Yeah, maybe Jeff Loria will buy it! #carefulwhatyouwishfor
     
  32. smahtaz

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    Nice strawman. Why does he need to sell the team?

    The team will be fine without big events.
     
  33. electrolyte

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    I already proved to you that your example was wrong. Even if you keep throwing cities out there until you find one, that still leaves the MAJORITY of any team, of any sport, experiencing loss in attendance when they suck. Stop blaming Miami.
     
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  34. djphinfan

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    Relatively speaking, this post is so off base...the Miami fanbase needs to have a colonoscopy, and douched up nicely with some vinegar..
     
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  35. smahtaz

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    I can't believe we still have people hanging on to Joe Robbie and the butt ugly color scheme that ensued.
     
  36. electrolyte

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    Whatever. Facts prove otherwise. When teams start to stink, fan attendance starts to drop.
     
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  37. djphinfan

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    Relatively speaking ours drops like a head nurse.
     
  38. djphinfan

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    You really think this fanbase represents their team?
     
  39. electrolyte

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    What facts are you using for this statement?
     
  40. PlanB

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    One other big bonus to the Stadium upgrade is the new seating closer to the field. Right now its still set up to play baseball games. We need screaming fans closer to opposing teams. Our home games miss that edge. We have not won much at all since 1987 and Joe Robbie was built. Huge problem.
     

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