This is not good. Read an article today (too lazy to look it back up) whet they detailed the used game process. Basically, you sell your used game to an authorized store. They log the game into an online account. When its sold (within their pricing limits bye) MS and developers get a cut of the revenue, and the game is "re-activated". In short, I can't sell my game to you, you can sell your game to me. They may make a system to do it, but I'm sure it'll cost. The "fee" will be built into the cost of the game, so you'll pay go it one way or the other. MS gets to dictate price floors, so games can stay more expensive longer. And GameStop takes a hit on their bottom line, hurting their incentive to sell used games. It's a losing proposition for consumers..
I have to say this has been the first time ever I have never been excited about any of the new systems. I feel they just have lost the wow factor, I mean watching xbox was like watching the previews all day on the smart tvs at walmart when I worked there. Oooo fancy tv functions big deal. I will hold off complete judgement until E3 but at the moment until a game I have to play absolutely without a PC version I will be taking a while to get the new systems. I will just get me some oculus rift headset and enjoy some V.R. gaming this next gen.
Anyone feel that the new One will infringe on civil rights and privacy acts based on this? http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbox-one-can-talk-report-6408871 I mean, color me a conspiracy theroist if you want, but you don't think the government will ultimately gain access to this information and perhaps route information to their own databases or facial recognition programs to track/find suspected felons, people with warrants, provide information for investigations, etc? I mean, people are already covering their existing Kinect camera with a towel or electrical tape. Same with google glasses. I know that our cell phones do the same nowadays, and facebook gives the government boatloads of information (amidst speculation that the FBI and CIA co-developed it for that purpose) but devices that can see into your home? Damn. So you can get specifically tailored advertising? LOL. Really? I am concerned for everyone's freedoms and privacy. With the advancement in technology, not just Xbox, we loose some of it each day IMO.
The tech doesn't worry me, nor does the government using it so long as they get a warrant. The laws that allow warrantless surveillance worry me. Sent from my SGH-T959V using Tapatalk 2
No more than logging in to a PC with your name would be. Besides, who says you have to use your real name? Kinect: "I don't recognize you, stranger. Who are you?" You: "Clint Beastwood." Kinect: "Thank you, Clint Beastwood."
Yeah, I know, especially Origins...very intrusive. But......facial recognition.....eyes looking into your living room, bedroom, whatever. Where is the line? Also, with facial recognition I can say Clint Beaswood, but the system says Anthony Beastwood.
Another weighs in on the strategies for the launch announcement and E3. http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/can-microsofts-xbox-change-fans-opinions-at-e3.html/?ref=YF
But they could have just as easily shown off the console and what it could do at E3. That's what has been done when past consoles have been unveiled at E3.
Again, their strategy may be to court non-gamers with the announcement and gamers with E3. Considering they are (more than ever before) attempting to make a box for both demographics, they cannot have ONE strategy that appeals to both. If they blow away gamers at E3, the disappointment by gamers over the announcement is not that relevant. From a marketing standpoint, it is virtually impossible to appeal to such dramatically different markets as gamers and non gamers with success. The announcement was a broad event, so they focused on everything. E3 is a targeted event so they'll focus on games. E3 is not for everybody.
Agreed, their initial announcement was a huge mistake. All they have done since then is damage control. They did a horrible job of inspiring gamers and inspiring non-gamers. That was a bad press conference.
Have you subscribed to their service at all or have you just found that article randomly? Just curious.
I think it is more along the line of Lamborghini annoucing their 2014 cars and only talking about their new line of Sedans.
Funny. What exactly do you not understand? There's a device that does multiple things. They tout its broad capabilities in a broad event like the announcement and then target the biggest gaming event to show off its gaming capabilities. Maybe marketing isn't your thing. That's cool, I can't build a computer.
One thing I am noticing that could improve games this generation is the engines. Keep hearing companies tout how such and such game is on their own engine. This is a good thing. I felt the past generation was too reliant on Unreal engine leading to games that felt a little too familiar underneath.
You have a serious condescension problem. You disagree with me, fine, whatever. It's a message forum. Get some perspective.
You, of all people on this board, have no right to make that accusation. FTR, I wasn't being condescending, I genuinely think you don't understand marketing (and I do) and I genuinely don't understand building computers (and you do). Frankly, I wish I did understand how to build computers but I do not have the aptitude for it....programming either.
You just did it again. Yeah, you were, and you still are. You're dressing up a "You don't know what you're talking about" statement by pairing it with a "Well, you know about this other unrelated thing, and I don't" statement. What does computer building have to do with the concept of the Xbox One? And this still isn't a marketing issue. This is a discussion about design and intent. What Microsoft intended when they made the Xbox One is pretty clear.
This is absurd. You are a very condescending poster. No i wasn't. Here's the thing, I know what my intent was, you don't. You think you do, but that just makes you arrogant. I'm not sneaky or clever, if I'm not making an obvious joke, then I'm saying how I honestly feel/think about a given topic. I'm not like a politician trying to manipulate anything. Marketing is absolutely the issue. All you know about the system you know because of marketing. From press conferences to interviews to "leaks", these marketing methods have shaped your view of it. As a person in marketing, I've been trying to explain to you what the possible strategy is, but you've constantly argued with me about it. You think MS's intent is obvious based on the marketing you've seen, so far.
"You don't know what I'm talking about." More condescension. OK, fine: I know what I know about the system because I know two people working on the project (albeit neither of whom work directly for Microsoft). Go read post #7 of this thread. Look at the time stamp and note that it was posted before Microsoft's presentation, and that my opinion there is the same as my opinion now. I cited a connected website, but I've heard the same things they have independently of them (or maybe we know the same people). The vibe coming from senior management at Microsoft is that the Xbox One is Trojan Horse that they think will get them into what they view as a more important market. So, no, marketing has nothing to do with what I know about the console, and you have fully illustrated my point about your condescension: you assume that you know why I say what I say. You actually have no idea whatsoever. I'm also not sharing all of the information I have, meaning I'm pretty sure I know more about this device than you do. I'll give you a hint so you can timestamp this post too: keep an eye on Windows 8.1.
Are you that ****ing arrogant that you can tell me what my intent was, and when I explain to you that you're wrong about my intent you label my condescending? This cannot be real. The famous, "i have sources, that you do not have so I know better". Lol, lemme guess, you're sticking with me being the one that's condescending....
I also think this is a marketing issue. They did a terrible job at marketing. The conference did nothing to get people excited. It pissed off gamers and didn't do anything to excite non-gamers. It was a failure to try to get a broad audience.
I agree that the presentation was a failure. But I think there's something bigger at play here, namely why Microsoft presented the Xbox One the way they did. It's their attempt at a post-PC device.
That is a possibility. We will know more at E3. Still, I think Jim Sterling had a good point that newer TVs already have most of the capabilities the XBoxOne (still hate that name) touts.
Well, I think the name comes from the idea that it is "One" box to rule them all as Marcus from Annoyed Gamer suggested - he also goes on how it will fail given the fact that you have to plug your tv box into the One, so there goes that idea. Then he continues on that the One will not have removable HD, and all games are fully installed onto the HD, which means it is likely people will have to use external HDs that the "One" allows. All in all, "One" box turns into 2 off the bat, 3, or 4 down the road, etc. http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/m4yj8z/annoyed-gamer-xbox-one-reaction Regarding the marketing aspect, It was a failure. You don't need a Mba to see that. The reveal was on Spike TV. What demographic does that channel have? Young gen. Gamers. They knew, or had to I hope, that the majority of the people watching were gamers. That is who had a genuine and overwhelming interest for the console. The others that are mainly interested in the alternate multimedia aspects of the console are the ones you can pick up down the road with the 'one box to control everything features' by word or mouth or future marketing pieces be it presentations, commercials, what have you. They neglected the target audience that was paying attention. It is that simple.
Boom. I would say that Spike was picked just because Microsoft knew that the only game they were showing of any importance was Call of Duty.
Yeah ok, Chief. You don't argue that you have "insider info" until I don't back down, but sure, whatever you say.
